The Fifty-Eight Republic - Do no masks mean that Sports Day will take place?

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'Well Being Unit' Sorry! I don't think the word I'm looking for is euphemism but something similar. That's a nice title for it.

jan they've not been told, but based on how shell shocked I look in all pictures I've seen from just before I was signed off you'd think the kids would guess!

I've just searched back, and yes dangling did say there was a Tiktok stupid thing about that. If anyone knows how to locate the source video that would be great - might give SLT a way into shutting it down or at the very least imposing harsher consequences more swiftly.

Our equivalent of the wellbeing unit is now treated as an optional drop in by students. On the corridors during lesson "I'm off to se Mrs XX in the unit".

New craze here is blankets and slippers. Followed by rudeness when you ask students to remove them.

Lots of staff getting ill, probably due to the stress of the TAG process. Our checklist obsessed SLT haven't made a checklist for possibly the only opportunity a checklist would be actually useful.

Sorry you’ve had mental health issues lately hobnob it’s not surprising given the current level of crap we are all dealing with. Hope you are feeling well now.

I’m wondering if my year 9 boys have seen something on rock rock recently. A handful have always been challenging, but they seem to have ratcheted up their none sense recently.
Fucking year 9 boys

Anyone else's primary class just....so much worse for HLTAs once a week for PPA? Please tell me I'm not alone.

Also, was the deleted staffroom thread the trainee? Has Mumsnet decided those were a troll?

A deleted thread? Missed that

Behaviour in my class is v challenging. I called 7 different options today to get a child removed, but no one answered. So, I battled through 45 mins of maths with an out right defiant child cruising around the room cutting rubbers up with scissors, and shouting 'listen to meeeeee, listen to meeeeee... ' constantly. He's 8. Any attempt by me to do anything was met with 'you're the rudest person I know, you're so rude, I hate you..' on repeat.

So that was nice.

I couldn't deal with that behaviour Rule - especially if, as at primary, you're meant to be stuck with that child every day for an entire year. Removal shouldn't rely on someone being at their desk to answer a phone - that's awful.

@Beachhuts90

Anyone else's primary class just....so much worse for HLTAs once a week for PPA? Please tell me I'm not alone.

Also, was the deleted staffroom thread the trainee? Has Mumsnet decided those were a troll?

We don’t accept any different behaviour depending on the member of staff. Everyone knows the steps of the Behaviour Policy and how to apply them (works both ways, staff can’t miss out steps). We have an engaged and supportive SLT though, which makes all the difference. Class teacher would apply bollockings if there is bad behaviour for cover.

Oh rule I’m so sorry. Can’t believe no one came to remove the kid. That’s so unfair for the other kids (and you).

If primary is anything like my Year 7s good luck to you. They are such a mix. Some amazing, self sufficient and very able. Others need to be prodded constantly just to write the title in their book.
It’s mixed ability so I fell like I’m not really meeting anyone’s needs. I think mixed ability had its place but behaviour is so bad in some classes, it is definitely affecting the achievement of the average to most able kids.

Currently our kids have to take themselves to their removal place (different for different year groups due to zones). So if I remove someone they know where they should go, I email where they should be going and they await the child's arrival or go looking for them. If they don't go to their removal room it's technically truancy as well as a removal.

Appreciate that with younger children the duty of care is probably tighter but there really should be a dedicated person who is responsible for it and has to respond when a child needs to be removed. We used to rely on patrol which was a pain in the arse because you'd send a message on sims that was meant to bring patrol but you'd still be waiting half an hour later with no one showing up but the child would be waiting outside so if they were kicking off in hopefully someone who was free in the block would respond and get on the phone to try and get someone to come and take them. I found under that system there was a lot of negativity attached to removing someone as if you were a shit teacher for taking up their time rather than dealing with it yourself. With the new system that is gone - they probably still think that but it isn't in your face with a member of slt further interrupting your lesson to try and make you justify removing the child or get you take them back in.

Mixed ability year 789 this year has not been a success. Probably not helped by the pack mentality because they're all in the same room all day. Year 7 low ability have really suffered, then the high ability haven't been stretched. I don't know how primary school does it!!

My subject is taught in mixed ability all the way through school so I've no comparison.

I only ever taught in sets when I was teaching science and they were set in year 9. That was a miserable experience tbh as low ability doing a compulsory subject that they had no interest in and had to do 3hrs a week off was hard going.

I think a mixed economy works well for students. Some subjects lend themselves better to mixed ability. A mix of sets and mixed also guarantees different students in classes which helps with behaviour and socially.

@RuleWithAWoodenFoot I think we teach the same class. I feel your pain!

That was a miserable experience tbh as low ability doing a compulsory subject that they had no interest in and had to do 3hrs a week off was hard going

I’ve currently got low ability kids in a mixed year 9 set, holding the interested kids back.

I honestly don’t know what the answer is. Mixed ability is good for the less able but possibly holds back the more able. Setting is great for the able kids but creates the “sink” sets.

The deleted thread wasn’t the usual suspect, I read the OP this morning thinking it was going to be. Can’t actually remember what it was about though!

Rule that sounds awful. We have a tough class but SLT are pretty good at helping remove children (or at least try to) if they're not in meetings (this is when it falls down).

I find my class do try it on with me when I cover, doesn't help they're a challenging class for all adults regardless.

Mine is, @Beachhuts90. I had to swap my PPA to a day when the Anco was working on site so that they could intervene with a particular child, who always acted up for the HLTA.

It's worse when it's a supply teacher. I had a supply teacher cover my ppa last week and they were beyond rowdy. I've not been in today and yesterday due to not being 100% (not covid jab related, teen dd brought a sickness bug back from her school this weekend) and I'm dreading picking up the pieces tomorrow.

It's hard not to take their behaviour for other people personally. I have no idea why.

I was also convinced the deleted thread was written by someone else, and wondered if they'd name changed.

Sorry that so many of you have had rubbish days. I've had a long and plodding day trying to tackle a paper mountain while also teaching all day, but on the bright side my lot were quite well behaved today.

@DrMadelineMaxwell

Mine is, *@Beachhuts90*. I had to swap my PPA to a day when the Anco was working on site so that they could intervene with a particular child, who always acted up for the HLTA.

It's worse when it's a supply teacher. I had a supply teacher cover my ppa last week and they were beyond rowdy. I've not been in today and yesterday due to not being 100% (not covid jab related, teen dd brought a sickness bug back from her school this weekend) and I'm dreading picking up the pieces tomorrow.

It's hard not to take their behaviour for other people personally. I have no idea why.

Well, at least it's not just ours!

We don’t accept any different behaviour depending on the member of staff. Everyone knows the steps of the Behaviour Policy and how to apply them (works both ways, staff can’t miss out steps). We have an engaged and supportive SLT though, which makes all the difference.
Class teacher would apply bollockings if there is bad behaviour for cover.
We have all of this too. But there are some that, on cover days, just aren't discouraged by the consequences of their actions on the behaviour plan at all. Tbh they're not exactly brilliantly behaved all the rest of the time but it's definitely worse and they definitely move up the behaviour plan quicker on these cover days.

I don't use Tiktok so would have no idea where to find proof, but, yeah, it was definitely a thing.

As was sawing into the back of classroom chairs with the string from a disposable face mask. Luckily that one has been rendered short lived by the removal of masks.

@JanFebAnyMonth

The deleted thread wasn’t the usual suspect, I read the OP this morning thinking it was going to be. Can’t actually remember what it was about though!

I have repeatedly reported every similar-sounding OP - under any username - over the last few weeks. Every single one has been deleted within a few minutes, which makes me suspect that 'behind the scenes' they are in fact the same user under different aliases.

The deleted thread OP had a different name but exactly the same style of writing. Pretty certain it was the same person, and I replied with that assumption, and on the previous thread that the new name OP posted as their first thread.

I have repeatedly reported every similar-sounding OP - under any username - over the last few weeks. Every single one has been deleted within a few minutes, which makes me suspect that 'behind the scenes' they are in fact the same user under different aliases.

If they are a troll, I don't understand their motivation. What do they get from it? It's so odd.