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The Forty - Eight Republic - countdown for DfE media agency to wake up

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StaffRepFeistyClub · 18/02/2021 01:48

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders, and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give the staffroom password just in case it attracts the wrong sort

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the booze is stashed - Thirsty Tuesdays, Fizz Fridays now in operation.

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom and you will receive a detention

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JanFebAnyMonth · 18/02/2021 16:34

Honey, read this - how to interpret the results is about halfway thru, hth

Shielding list to be virtually doubled www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4167430-Shielding-list-to-be-virtually-doubled

TheHoneyBadger · 18/02/2021 16:35

It's just sunk in Noble that the postcode thing is because the focus is on community transmission/business/hospitals etc rather than individual risk.

BlanketyBlankAgain · 18/02/2021 16:38

Well, I've been phoned up and booked in for a vaccination today but no idea why... am in my 40s, no medical conditions, okay BMI.... Absolutely mystified!

Have emailed my GP to clarify why they think I'm vulnerable, and to check that it's not actually a mistake...

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 18/02/2021 16:39

The false positive thing keeps popping up again over the last few days. Ever since having cases below 1000 started popping up.

Honestly it’s a miracle we ever manage to get to having no Covid cases at home with all the false positivesGrin

phlebasconsidered · 18/02/2021 16:41

Mum has had her vaccine text which is a glimmer of hope and I saw the GP today. GP said in her opinion I should still remain in group 6 despite the "Asthma is fine" rhetoric but she needs practice clearance. She also said group 6 probably won't be till June! Some of my test results are fine and others not so more tests ordered.

My bubble is now so big it's only 10 shy of my usual class now. 2 more expected in the first week back as well. I am not planning and I have started hoovering and faffing in the cupboards to put it off. Amazing how I can spend hours sorting spices when I have planning to do.

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 16:51

I've no idea what to do about the vaccine. I was offered it absolutely ages ago as I'm in group 4 and then at the same time as I teach SEN.

I don't want it. I've had covid and it was ridiculously mild. I would rather have had that over the cold I had just before it ! I had it last march at the very start so obviously I'm aware I can get it again. Im not sure I will do though as the number of times I've been exposed to it is madness. If I was going to have got it again I would have done.

I have severe drug allergies. They're not the ones listed but the issue is I react to the most random things, no one knows what, there's no way of predicting it and the reactions are incredibly serious, could be fatal for certain things.

For me I don't want the vaccine. I would rather chance getting covid again, I've never shielded, I never intend to and I don't worry about covid.

But.... I work with vulnerable kids. I don't want to bring it to them!! That's why I'm still considering it. But.... Then as far as I understand it the vaccine doesn't actually prevent transmission so.... Would it even be relevant as if vaccinated could I just get a milder disease myself but still pass it on?

I don't know what to do but feel no matter what I do it's the wrong choice. No way am I posting this on the CV boards but I just wonder what anyone thought.

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/02/2021 16:53

I've been phoned up and booked in for a vaccination today but no idea why

That's what I thought. I've just looked at that risk factor link though, and my 'thing' is mentioned on there (they also told me on the phone). I've never seen it mentioned on any other lists over the last year, although I have had a bit of a wonder about whether it should be. When people were having embolisms and DVTs with it, and it started being called a vasular disease, I did have a conversation with my partner about whether that made me risky. Seemed it did. My BMI is high, but not high enough to count as an issue - they have that on record because I only joined the practice in the last 2 years. It was possibly more then than it is now.

Also, my county has been quite forward thinking with vaccinating special school staff. Even though I'm not officially special school staff, my school is listed as specialist provision because of the resource base. Who knows... it was a nice surprise. Makes me a tiny bit less anxious about going back to work, although I'll have 2 weeks before it kicks in I guess.

phlebasconsidered · 18/02/2021 16:59

The vaccine won't stop transmission. However, you may have had it mildly once but it doesn't mean you can't get it again, or a new variation, and get it worse. Historically I have rotten reactions to many meds and was hospitalised as a child after both my polio and TB vaccination and have an epi pen for severe reactions but I have the flu jab every year fine. I'd bite their hand off! I do have asthma and various other autoimmune thingies though.

Can you not talk it through with your GP? I know my triggers and they are very random but coronavirus isn't one, as I can have the flu jab every year. I do have to check fillers on my meds but I know which ones I can have. Ring your GP. It's a valid concern.

MrsHerculePoirot · 18/02/2021 16:59

@RuleWithAWoodenFoot I’m pleased you’ve been offered it.

@OpheliasCrayon I thought the first reports had come out that it does reduce transmission?

JanFebAnyMonth · 18/02/2021 17:03

Yes I thought they were starting to see evidence that it does reduce transmission.

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:04

@phlebasconsidered

The vaccine won't stop transmission. However, you may have had it mildly once but it doesn't mean you can't get it again, or a new variation, and get it worse. Historically I have rotten reactions to many meds and was hospitalised as a child after both my polio and TB vaccination and have an epi pen for severe reactions but I have the flu jab every year fine. I'd bite their hand off! I do have asthma and various other autoimmune thingies though.

Can you not talk it through with your GP? I know my triggers and they are very random but coronavirus isn't one, as I can have the flu jab every year. I do have to check fillers on my meds but I know which ones I can have. Ring your GP. It's a valid concern.

I've had an appointment with them already to discuss, unfortunately. She was lovely and understood but she said really because no one ever knows what I will react to she can't say. I have the flu jab though and I asked her if it was in any way the same that but she said no she couldn't say it was the same. For example I take immunosuppressants. I had them swapped last year to a "biosimilar" ; so the drug was the same but the carriers etc ever so slightly different. The reaction I had to the biosim was so severe I had to have it changed back....but no one knew what it was.

I just don't know what to do and no one can advise me. I do have tons of autoimmune stuff / take high dose steroids and am on the shielding list but I'm happy as I am .. my worries genuinely are because I want to protect others.

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:05

[quote MrsHerculePoirot]@RuleWithAWoodenFoot I’m pleased you’ve been offered it.

@OpheliasCrayon I thought the first reports had come out that it does reduce transmission?[/quote]
Oh I didn't know this. I've not really been looking these last three weeks! I thought it wasn't stopping transmission but if it is that's great!!!

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/02/2021 17:08

Oh shame - there was a nice thread going on health about options for preventing gap stuff, and someone has said 'Twinkl'. Boom, that's it.

SmileEachDay · 18/02/2021 17:16

Ahem. Rule

Let’s not write it off yet.

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:16

@RuleWithAWoodenFoot

Oh shame - there was a nice thread going on health about options for preventing gap stuff, and someone has said 'Twinkl'. Boom, that's it.
Do you know though - twinkl is impressing me this week; they've just released an AAC app! Honestly I've downloaded it onto my phone and I've has a look and it's doing a pretty good job at recreating Wigit. They're taking SEN seriously - developing communication / symbol apps is a big deal. It's free at the moment as in development but I am impressed with them atm;
WhenSheWasBad · 18/02/2021 17:18

Glad you are getting the jab soon rule

Still 12,000 new infections. Sad

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/02/2021 17:20

Yeah I like Twinkl too. Why reinvent the wheel? The editable stuff is great. These days there is no need at all to be pissed off with teachers sending out Twinkl stuff. If someone has approached the school and they've been unhelpful, ask on here on the education board with some info about your child, and someone will come along and sort out Oak links for them to use. Easy. Also easy to just use the same arguments for a year though I suppose.

MrsHerculePoirot · 18/02/2021 17:21

Yes the first reports from Israel I think about Pfizer suggest reduces transmission. My friend who is more scientific than me said this means it is likely the others will too and that it was always likely but until they’ve got evidence they have to be cautious - she honestly was massively excited at the initial report about it and doesn’t generally go for unfounded optimism so it made me feel better! @OpheliasCrayon realise that doesn’t help you... sorry!

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:22

@RuleWithAWoodenFoot

Yeah I like Twinkl too. Why reinvent the wheel? The editable stuff is great. These days there is no need at all to be pissed off with teachers sending out Twinkl stuff. If someone has approached the school and they've been unhelpful, ask on here on the education board with some info about your child, and someone will come along and sort out Oak links for them to use. Easy. Also easy to just use the same arguments for a year though I suppose.
I do always feel a massive cop out when I use it though. Even though every time I go to the printer at work I see other people have been printing off stuff from twinkl. Way back when I used to make all my own resources and, I mean I definitely still do.... I have to - I have to make things on wigit and obviously having a group of ASD/PMLD students there's no way I'm going to be able to just find the right stuff on twinkl... But I do use it quite a lot! I feel bad but then like you say ... Why reinvent the wheel? It's there...it works....
OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:23

@MrsHerculePoirot

Yes the first reports from Israel I think about Pfizer suggest reduces transmission. My friend who is more scientific than me said this means it is likely the others will too and that it was always likely but until they’ve got evidence they have to be cautious - she honestly was massively excited at the initial report about it and doesn’t generally go for unfounded optimism so it made me feel better! *@OpheliasCrayon* realise that doesn’t help you... sorry!
Well no maybe it doesn't help me but it's bloody brilliant if it's right!!!
noblegiraffe · 18/02/2021 17:23

@JanFebAnyMonth

Anne Longfield's answering our questions now.... hasn't got to noble's yet......
Mysteriously skipped it. I did have a little bet on.
JanFebAnyMonth · 18/02/2021 17:25

Well done to honey and cat for entering discourse with her anyway!

phlebasconsidered · 18/02/2021 17:26

I am probably being thick but how does being vaccinated prevent you from spreading it? Is that true with all virus vaccines like the flu one? Sciency people help me!

JanFebAnyMonth · 18/02/2021 17:26

maybe MNHQ warned her about noble beforehand.......

OpheliasCrayon · 18/02/2021 17:29

@phlebasconsidered

I am probably being thick but how does being vaccinated prevent you from spreading it? Is that true with all virus vaccines like the flu one? Sciency people help me!
Well if the vaccines stops you getting it at all....then you can't spread it? If the vaccine reduces the severity only then you have the illness you can pass it on. If you have a vaccine your body makes an immune response and therefore when the pathogen gets into your body...body recognises it because it's seen the vaccine and knows what to do... So then you don't have the illness at all...and you can't pass it on.