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The Forty Sixth Republic - online learning has killed the 'snow day'

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Staffdontblowitnow · 08/02/2021 01:20

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JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 18:54

Ah, here's the type of thing that's been occupying U4T, moaning when the government, actually quite fairly for once, tries to point out that children with no gardens should have priority use of playgrounds.

Funnily enough Molly doesn't think that's fair at all:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/11/ministers-accused-removing-last-vestige-hope-parents-amid-row/

noblegiraffe · 11/02/2021 19:11

U4T are writing stories directly for the Telegraph too www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/02/11/wary-current-plans-help-children-catch-many-just-assuage-adult/

Not got a subscription but I expect it’s full of how catastrophically terrible things are for kids right now.

chocolateisavegetable · 11/02/2021 19:25

Did anyone see this on Sky News? Almost as if the government are laying the groundwork for not having all children going back on the 8th?
"The week of the 22nd" rather than "on the 22nd" and "at least 2 weeks notice for schools" rather than "2 weeks notice for schools.

The Forty Sixth Republic - online learning has killed the 'snow day'
WhenSheWasBad · 11/02/2021 19:39

There’s been loads from the government recently. Not booking summer hols, possible booster vaccines in autumn. Hotel quarantine if you have travelled from countries with a concerning variant.

This is the Tories, if they could open everything up and get the economy moving again, they would. I think there’s some pretty scary data out there.

JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 19:43

Yup chocolate...

RandomGrammarPun · 11/02/2021 19:46

I agree, WhenShe.

JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 19:51

@noblegiraffe

U4T are writing stories directly for the Telegraph too www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/02/11/wary-current-plans-help-children-catch-many-just-assuage-adult/

Not got a subscription but I expect it’s full of how catastrophically terrible things are for kids right now.

Here's a non-paywalled version, you're right noble, but she actually makes some valid points. A moment of anti lockdownism but it's not as bad as we would have expected (or am I missing something?)

Her point re Catch Up Tsar etc being besides the point if we're locking down again next winter is sensible.

www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/02/11/wary-current-plans-help-children-catch-many-just-assuage-adult/

Desmosgirl · 11/02/2021 19:54

teacher.desmos.com/activitybuilder/custom/60257430b6ea493e338a6e55

Regular under NC to share this with maths people. Will revert to normal shortly!

JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 19:56

@RandomGrammarPun

I agree, WhenShe.
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JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 20:02

I've been thinking, and had a bit of a chat with our IT guy who likes to chew the cud, today:

We're possibly facing more lockdown next winter and restrictions for a very long time. School, and indeed children's activities (yup Molly, no Drama School, clutch those pearls very tightly) is therefore unlikely to be "normal" for years.

(Sorry, 😞, I know, especially for those of us with kids ourselves)

Therefore we need to do some radical rethinking:

-safeguarding
-social development
-physical fitness
-support for parents

to name but a few vital things, even before whether we can actually educate a generation of children in this situation.

No, I've not been influenced by Molly!!

noblegiraffe · 11/02/2021 20:08

That’s still paywalled, Jan

Obviously if we want kids to catch up, a couple of weeks added to the summer holidays is a monumentally stupid idea and what’s needed is proper investment in schools and support services long-term. That won’t get headlines or Tory votes though.

chocolateisavegetable · 11/02/2021 20:08

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PumpkinPie2016 · 11/02/2021 20:11

Evening all Smile I've not had chance to catch up with the whole thread unfortunately Sad I swear time just disappears!

On the plus side, I finished for half term today Grin so I am feeling pretty good. DS(7) also finished today. I am looking forward to no alarm for 10 days and having some breathing space!

DS has made a list of things he wants to do such as lego building/baking/film/making a volcano kit he was bought. So plenty to keep us busy!

It was -7 here this morning so planning to hibernate for a few days while it's so cold!

noblegiraffe · 11/02/2021 20:13

This is the Tories, if they could open everything up and get the economy moving again, they would. I think there’s some pretty scary data out there.

I think the SA variant potentially fucking up the one thing they’ve got right, the vaccine programme, is something they’re actually prepared to take seriously.

And Boris having to cancel Christmas and announce another lockdown and take responsibility for 100,000 deaths has had an impact on his normally upbeat positive ‘out of this in 6 weeks’ sort of blathering.

chocolateisavegetable · 11/02/2021 20:13

Pumpkin what a shame - you missed some excellent debate about the definition of "tall" and a very interesting comparison of shoe sizes.

Enjoy your 10 days Smile

noblegiraffe · 11/02/2021 20:16

choc you have to be careful about posting comments from other threads on here, we’ve been told off for it before.

Not so friendly types read these threads and report.

chocolateisavegetable · 11/02/2021 20:32

Thanks Noble - I reported my own post so they've deleted it

chocolateisavegetable · 11/02/2021 20:40

Parts of Wales delaying the return to school www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56021968

borntobequiet · 11/02/2021 20:51

This is the Tories, if they could open everything up and get the economy moving again, they would. I think there’s some pretty scary data out there.

Agree. And I bet some of it’s to do with schools.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 11/02/2021 20:54

I am so ready for half term.

Because my partner teacher (long term supply for my normal colleague who I've not seen since July due to covid anxiety) is injured, they are out of the rota. So that means that the bulk of the KWV covering is down to me.

We aren't doing any live content - thank goodness. Only prerecorded and 3rd party content with the odd pastoral zoom, but it's really wearing me down.

Colleague is at home, laid up with a broken leg, but perfectly able to cope with dealing with setting the online learning that we plan and find between us, marking and doing the videos. But has nothing else to do. Whereas I'm in 3 or 4 days a week (4 this week) depending on whether the HLTA can cover any other time as well as doing all the same.

I'm grateful that school haven't decided to stop paying her and leave all the correspondance of 2 classes to me full time (would take 3 hours a day if I had to spend even one minute per piece of work looking at both classes work!) because they are supply, but at the same time it really feels like I have the bum end of the deal!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 11/02/2021 20:57

[quote chocolateisavegetable]Parts of Wales delaying the return to school www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56021968[/quote]
I saw that.

I'm in the 2nd highest area next to Wrexham and we aren't having the option to return later, yet other councils elsewhere with much lower rates are pushing back the return date.

JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 21:04

Ah sorry re paywall on Molly's article: here's the beginning (so you can look here in the bra strap eye, text to follow:

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JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 21:20

Lost that article, will find it again, but in the meantime do ppl know about this petition, supporting an NEU bod who spokenout about LFTs in December

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/defend-neu-exec-kirstie-paton-support-the-right-of-trade-unionists-to-speak-out?source=facebook&&fbclid=IwAR0UMt3iCR1hQhjHh52h5ywAx9GQG6CJ2Oajzz_peDzRMthyQfzllRuw9QA

MsAwesomeDragon · 11/02/2021 21:21

@Desmosgirl

teacher.desmos.com/activitybuilder/custom/60257430b6ea493e338a6e55

Regular under NC to share this with maths people. Will revert to normal shortly!

Thanks!! That will do nicely for my first lesson after half term for year 10. I love it when I can magpie a resource rather than making it myself 😃
JanFebAnyMonth · 11/02/2021 21:39

DT article by Molly Kingsley of U4T - hope the long C&P works, you know MN:

(First para about a girl who's developed anxiety-related Tourette's in lockdown)

Cara’s case is extreme but it is not isolated. Up and down the country children are being harmed by social isolation and school closures in ways that in some cases will leave deep and lasting scars. During the last lockdown some of us were speaking of the disproportionate impact of school closures on young people. Now that data from the first lockdown is emerging, far from “catastrophising”, that language looks if anything too weak; “devastating” is - sadly - becoming a commonly used wordrd; Rob Halfon , chair of the Education Select Committee, has described school closures as “the four horsemen of the education apocalypse.” It’s against this sorry background that the various Government-sponsored recovery proposals must be judged.^
^
S^o far those suggestions have included summer bootcamps, extensions of the school day, shortening the summer term and extending the existing tutoring programme; a new Catch-Up Tsar has been appointed and Boris Johnson has saidid we must go “flat out” to help children get back on track.^
^Whilst on one hand the stark acknowledgment of this huge issue is welcome, in truth I'm wary.
What we’ve taken from many of these kids is time - and it’s not easy to give that back. Heated and diametrically opposed opinions are starting to emerge on the proposals - plans to extend days and terms have, predictably, been shot down by the Unionsns. For some children - especially younger primary kids - there may be a lack of wiggle room in the day to add on hours, although suggestionsns to use this time for physical activity and support with mental health are attractive. Figuring out what these projects should look like in practice will be far from easy. Kids are starting on unequal terrain and will need to move at different paces; studieses looking at the impact of natural disasters on education show how important it will be for each child to catch up from the right base and at the right speed. Anything else risks further derailing these children to the point that many will never claw back.
^
Evidence suggeststs
that targeted tutoring whether over summer or after school may be the best way out of the educational abyss for those children who have been hit hardest. But of course there is a hefty price to pay for that level of support. Ministers have chucked an extra £300M into the pot, but so far the total allocated to catch-up stands at a little over £1bn; even allowing for population size this is an order of magnitude less than the US’s 170 billion dollar rescue package for education and is a far cry from the “rocket boosting” that Anne Longfield prescribed a fortnight ago.

Children are traumatised^
We must also question “how much is too much”? Edinburgh-based headmaster Rod Grant uses the phrase “PTSD” to describe what he saw of the impact of the last lockdown on the children he teaches. Whether by negligence or design, with our pandemic response we declared war on children. And like soldiers coming back from a war, many of these children are traumatised. More time at a desk might go some way to assuaging adult guilt but is it really what these children need?^

Speaking to parents this last week one consistent theme emerges. Sure, catch-up is needed, but what parents really want for their kids now is simply for them to be happy. Playing, singing, dancing, drama and above all else friendship - all the things which make a childhood and which have been so abruptly taken. Encouragingly this has been recognised by the new Catch-Up Tsar when he talksks_ of children needing to re-learn to play.
There are also some deeper philosophical questions.^

The language of “recovery” seems off the mark. As well as being un-aspirational and potentially even stigmatising, it masks that for children like Cara there will be no recovery: not all cuts can be uncut. A report on the impact of the Pakistani earthquake of 2005 states “…the disaster can leave long-lasting scars on children, even when government interventions compensate households for the shock and facilitate a speedy economic recovery”, and the social isolation we’ve inflicted on this generation is extraordinary and unprecedented. People talk of children being resilient but for the babies who have not yet met anyone but their parents and the toddlers who have never played with another child we may not know for many years what effect our lockdown experiment will have had.

Deflecting attention
Whatever the name given, these programmes will not be worth the promissory notes on which they will be printed unless Government is able to reset its pandemic response in a way which takes school closures out of the equation. Why bother having summer schools or longer days if, when the Cornwall variant strikes in October 2021, we’ll be slamming the school doors shut again? New job titles are easy to dish out; intractable political problems are harder to fix. Appointing a Catch-Up Tsar seems a good way to deflect attention from the fact that the harm of school closures is ongoing.

^The educational and welfare crisis that our children have sustained is grave; they have behind them many months of struggle and suffering. Much, indeed, has been made of the war analogy, but really, it’s an irony. There is no war, yet children are being sacrificed to save the NHS - the institution that was the last war’s legacy. We must now come full circle. We must recognise that children are giving up their lives so that others can live. This is a grim but necessary truth, as it frames the nature of the effort now required. As happened in the wake of 1945 we need a long term approach which harnesses appropriate investment, creativity and hope to take our early years children into their adult lives.
Whatever The Plan is, it must be a tribute to childhood, rather than a further betrayal of it^.