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The Thirty-seventh Republic - Mass testing rolls on - school staff remain expendable

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SantaAssociationRepresentitve · 30/12/2020 16:43

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders, and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give the staffroom password just in case it attracts the wrong sort

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the booze is stashed - Thirsty Tuesdays, Fizz Fridays now in operation.

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom and you will receive a detention

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Saucery · 31/12/2020 17:57

Have a good evening, Honey. Wine

TheHoneyBadger · 31/12/2020 17:58

10 years! FFS if you didn't laugh....

Our school will be paying nearly £10ph for people to work in the testing game and they will all be provided with full PPE and 2m distancing etc at all times. They will have to get DBS clearance though. Not sure how they can in 10 days but Confused

No mention of staff helping in any way so now the funding has been agreed I presume it's going to be entirely outsourced.

Saucery · 31/12/2020 17:59

We already have 15 yr olds working at lower primary level, don’t we? And not with any diagnosed additional needs, either. Nice to know someone has noticed them, right now, this minute.

TheHoneyBadger · 31/12/2020 17:59

Thanks Saucery. I'll probably be back once ds gets bored of me.

Wine for all or Cake if you don't partake.

SaltyAF · 31/12/2020 17:59

Why does everyone pretend to be so fucking STUPID?! It gives me the absolute rage Angry

TheHoneyBadger · 31/12/2020 18:01

@Saucery

We already have 15 yr olds working at lower primary level, don’t we? And not with any diagnosed additional needs, either. Nice to know someone has noticed them, right now, this minute.
We certainly do here.

I have kids in year 7 who literally cannot read or write this year. They were like that before remote learning though. They weren't working at degree level then got set back 10 years when schools went online in April.

Achristmaspudsskidu · 31/12/2020 18:02

Wow-10 years!

Ofsted inspectors will clearly be set back 40 then seeing as they’ve done fuck all since March.

cantkeepawayforever · 31/12/2020 18:05

OK. Something I don't understand.

In the rest of the country, if you are a close contact of someone who tests positive, you have to isolate. PCR testing negative doesn't get you out, and it is legally enforcable IIRC.

In schools, where T+T has delegated the job of tracing to school staff, nobody in school will isolate as a close contact of someone who tests positive (though I presume out of school contacts of the same child WILL have to isolate), and instead they will be tested multiple times using a test with a high false negative rate. What is the legal framework for that? As in, if isolating as a close contact is legally enforcable for out of school contacts of a case, why aren't the in-school contacts legally required to isolate too?

AllDoneIn · 31/12/2020 18:06

Happy New Year all. Trying to step away from the news and all things school.

Fuck you 2020. And Gav Grin

PandemicPavalova · 31/12/2020 18:08

piggy stories like angry doctors rant make me feel even more frustrated.

Why doesn't he, link up his rant with the absolute insanity of forcing thousands of people to do the absolute opposite of what he's asking from next week?

Ridiculous articles or posters pleading with us to stay at home! The government isn't allowing it.

Love the shark meme, I hope someone tweeted that to Boris.

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2020 18:08

You’re only legally required to isolate if contacted by Test and Trace. No contact, no legal requirement.

At the moment an official letter from the school counts, I think.

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2020 18:09

Fuck you 2020. And Gav Grin

Back to shagging Gav. @SmileEachDay will be happy.

cantkeepawayforever · 31/12/2020 18:10

@noblegiraffe

You’re only legally required to isolate if contacted by Test and Trace. No contact, no legal requirement.

At the moment an official letter from the school counts, I think.

Sorry, I should have made it clear I meant contacted by T&T.

So now the school official letter doesn't count for anything at all, as when T&T contact contacts out of school they must isolate, but contacts in school - and only in school - do not isolate? What about children who walk to school together - are they required to isolate, or not?

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2020 18:13

But they won’t be getting a school letter telling them to isolate.

Who knows how it will actually work. Does anyone trust the DfE to have planned in advance?

DecemberStar · 31/12/2020 18:14

So that DfE bog states that Early Years remain open everywhere? So some primaries will just be open to their Reception class??

PandemicPavalova · 31/12/2020 18:15

I'm thinking that because of school testing, parents will get confused, dc show symptoms and say... They will get their test at school...

Rather than stop them going in and taking them to off site place

SaltyAF · 31/12/2020 18:16

@cantkeepawayforever

OK. Something I don't understand.

In the rest of the country, if you are a close contact of someone who tests positive, you have to isolate. PCR testing negative doesn't get you out, and it is legally enforcable IIRC.

In schools, where T+T has delegated the job of tracing to school staff, nobody in school will isolate as a close contact of someone who tests positive (though I presume out of school contacts of the same child WILL have to isolate), and instead they will be tested multiple times using a test with a high false negative rate. What is the legal framework for that? As in, if isolating as a close contact is legally enforcable for out of school contacts of a case, why aren't the in-school contacts legally required to isolate too?

And does the magic work outside the school building? In other words, are school age contacts of positive cases allowed to be out and about in public?
Achristmaspudsskidu · 31/12/2020 18:16

Ffs-why did I stray onto the Corona board-I’ll just get myself all worked up! Why can’t people see what a mess this LF testing in schools will be?

Is it too early for Gin?

PandemicPavalova · 31/12/2020 18:16

I'd like to see a wave of heads starting to stand together to say they can't guarantee staff or pupil safety so they can't open.

PandemicPavalova · 31/12/2020 18:17

PS I didn't get that angst re school from the mail article at all, it was focused on gov chaos.

noblegiraffe · 31/12/2020 18:17

From another thread, Haringey council is instructing primaries not to open despite not being on the list.

cantkeepawayforever · 31/12/2020 18:18

And does the magic work outside the school building? In other words, are school age contacts of positive cases allowed to be out and about in public?

Presumably so....

starrynight19 · 31/12/2020 18:19

@Achristmaspudsskidu

Wow-10 years!

Ofsted inspectors will clearly be set back 40 then seeing as they’ve done fuck all since March.

GrinGrinGrin now that gave me the laugh I very much needed Thankyou
DecemberStar · 31/12/2020 18:20

@SaltyAF the training materials state that if you test negative with the LFTs in serial testing you can "go about your normal activities", so yes.

  • Obviously I was referring in my post above to the DfE's blog, not their bog 🚽!