The Twenty Fourth Republic - conditions not great and are teachers becoming modern day lepers?

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If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom, especially if yo

There's not a lot of point in shutting a whole school and doing a a deep clean imo unless the kids are supposed to be back the next day.

The virus will die completely after 3 days.

I know they did at mine after a just a bubble closed and it was extra cleaning of touch points and everything they could as I suppose anyone could pas by the same points.

Gosh monkey!

I wonder if the app won't buzz in that case too?

There have been complaints about this amount hcps.

How long is the lead-in for track and trace to contact people to say to isolate anyway?

Eg - if one of my kids tests +ve mid week after isolating since last Fri due to parental test and +ve results - how long back to do they go to tell the class to isolate?

I've been advised a kid not in since Fri, but who tested +ve Wed means we don't pop our y4 bubble as it's long enough to be safe.

It's not something I've read up on.

@DrMadelineMaxwell well I guess it must be, given that we all know it's Heads who end up T&Ting in schools, on the advice of the DfE helpline if it's only one case.

My only question would be why haven't Tracers been told this all along?

Although, does it also mean that any teacher of student who tests positive doesn't have their non-school contacts traced??

It's 48 hours dr, so that's fine.

I'm fuming that joe wicks gets an mbe for jumping about in the safety of his living room while teachers went in, are still going in and won't be told about possible contacts outside school

I don't know if this helps but ... goddaughter had dance class last Friday. On weds, she was contacted by the teacher who'd just got a positive result. On Thursday, she was contacted by PHE to isolate for 14 days from last Friday. Seems the teacher took the test on Monday.

Well then schools really world be vectors.

No I think it's to avoid "unnecessary" absences

And to answer yr more recently post drM, that's correct, you're only infectious for two days before symptoms so they weren't in school for any of that time.

@MrsHamlet that makes sense if her teacher started symptoms on the Sunday or Saturday, yes

If a child feels ill on Wednesday, and is kept off school... then has a test Thursday, positive by Friday, then you've had a class (or contacts or whatever) potentially infected on Monday and Tuesday, so that class or contacts should isolate until the following Friday. Is that right?

Meanwhile, they've been in school and the community, possibly infecting others, for another week. Yes?

I don't get why it's 48 hours to be clear before you show symptoms, yet 14 days for the isolators in case they show them.

OK. I've done some reading and I found an article that said you are contagious between 72 and 48 hours before you begin to show symptoms.

My sister now has COVID and is suffering. She is very fit, early 40s and a tri-athlete (opposite of me). She WFH. No idea how she caught it (other than from her kids)

I despair!

So sorry to hear that Staff. When you say "suffering"...?

Sounds just about right @ohthegoats ....

Sorry to read about your sister staff.

I'm fuming that joe wicks gets an mbe for jumping about in the safety of his living room

No no no, Joe fully deserves his MBE, a knighthood and probably to be made King for what he did during lockdown.

Hope your sister recovers quickly and fully, Staff

Look at the thread about T@T not attending to schools on the Coronavirus board!

Such items of interest as this, from @cantkeepawayforever (don't know if she's on this thread too ):

^And schools / educational settings which have a positive case no longer need to ring the national 'helpline' if it is not their first case (confirmed in a call to them today)

A first case simply gets standard advice and a form letter.

For subsequent cases, schools MAY have to report it to their local authority public health team (if they are on the ball), but in general they can just keep doing what they have done for earlier cases - send home close contacts, carry on as before - and NOBODY aggregates or even collects the data at a regional or national level.^

Track and trace told not to bother reporting cases amongst staff or pupils in schools www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4047292-track-and-trace-told-not-to-bother-reporting-cases-amongst-staff-or-pupils-in-schools

Coughing, breathless, tired. She said she felt so bad that she was really worried and so went to hospital where she was told she would actually be better off at home

I haven’t actually seen her for a couple of weeks ... she sounded wheezy on the phone.

If it does that to her then it would see me off

@Augustbreeze

Look at the thread about T@T not attending to schools on the Coronavirus board!

Such items of interest as this, from @cantkeepawayforever (don't know if she's on this thread too ):

^And schools / educational settings which have a positive case no longer need to ring the national 'helpline' if it is not their first case (confirmed in a call to them today)

A first case simply gets standard advice and a form letter.

For subsequent cases, schools MAY have to report it to their local authority public health team (if they are on the ball), but in general they can just keep doing what they have done for earlier cases - send home close contacts, carry on as before - and NOBODY aggregates or even collects the data at a regional or national level.^

I am also here. To be fair, I am now aware that there is a data collection sheet that settings need to fill in. Whether it is going anywhere, or into the ether, I have no idea.

I think the four tiers still stand - the guidance on 1st Oct references the tier 2 planning and links to that.

The school tiers are different to the tiers for local restrictions - as in being tier 3 on that doesn’t necessarily mean schools will move to tier 2 or anything - each school/area wil make decisions based on their setting.

Our head told us it was a LA decision - and the whole LA have to go to if and when they say hence being asked as a borough to plan for it so it is consistent across the LA.

We aren’t under any extra restrictions at the mo though so who knows!

I mean seeing as we are all now areas of concern - why the fuck have they not even moved to tier 1?!? (Schools tier 1, not Nando’s, new tiers, old tiers, or R number tiers or whatever else the fuck tiers they since released/leaked/scribbled on the back of an envelope...)

@TheHoneyBadger I feel your part time pain. I only work three days (in school) but obvs work most of my other two days.... 🙄

Staff best wishes to your sister, and to you