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The Twenty Fourth Republic - conditions not great and are teachers becoming modern day lepers?

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/10/2020 10:02

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give ‘The Every twat for Themselves mob’ the staffroom password as a number of them are operating in an alternative reality.

No DfE muppets allowed

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom, especially if yo

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Danglingmod · 10/10/2020 16:10

I've not seen a plan for if we have a lockdown but it's impossible to teach live lessons from within school as we literally don't have the technology. It can only be done from home using ones own equipment.

KW provision would have to be by support staff or teaching staff in on a rota then wouldn't be able to provide live lessons, only pre-made ones.

Hercwasonaroll · 10/10/2020 16:12

I floated the idea of whole year group live lessons so that we'd have more staff for KW and in case staff are at home with kids isolating. Went down like a lead balloon with SLT. Seems they hadn't considered we'd need "extra" capacity.

MrsHerculePoirot · 10/10/2020 16:14

Don't primary ONLY stop having all children in at tier 4?

It's only secondary (Y7 upwards) where anything changes, so I assume they think those children can be at home for the times they are not in school.

If we move up to tier 2 or beyond we will be live streaming if half in half out to KS4/KS5 (KS3 still be be decided). If we have whole year groups in and out then we will teach them remotely, but from in school, following our timetable.

We will also try to have more students we are concerned about in school following disclosures and concerns of some during previous lockdown.

noblegiraffe · 10/10/2020 16:20

I think the new tiers are nothing to do with the school Plan B tiers and those are now effectively abandoned.

The new tiers have schools open no rotas.

noblegiraffe · 10/10/2020 16:21

New tiers

The Twenty Fourth Republic - conditions not great and are teachers becoming modern day lepers?
Hercwasonaroll · 10/10/2020 16:28

I think the school tier thing has been and gone. Our SLT plans are in case of national lockdown upskilling to teach from home. They have accepted live lessons won't be possible for all.

Whole school or bubble isolating is currently normal timetable delivered from the building. Another (more affluent) academy in the MAT done this already and its gone OK. Worried about our engagement rate due to lack of tech.

Augustbreeze · 10/10/2020 16:41

But @noblegiraffe I was thinking that they'll eventually be forced to go to tier 3(?) ie rota learning, then probably tier 4 secondaries "close". Certainly in higher rate areas.

Must admit I'd forgotten that primaries never close. Allegedly. Because they're all going to have enough staff not sick or self isolating.....

Iamnotthe1 · 10/10/2020 16:41

@noblegiraffe

New tiers
Full lockdown except for schools and workplaces which will remain open.

So not a full lockdown then.

CallmeAngelina · 10/10/2020 16:45

Leaving schools open at Tier 3 (or 4) is a bit like shutting the canal lock, but leaving the sluice gates open.

coffeeabdteav · 10/10/2020 16:46

Full lockdown except for schools and workplaces which will remain open.

So not a full lockdown then.

Can't see how it will work due to the huge amount of adults mixing also. But maybe I am wrong and closing pubs will have a huge impact.

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/10/2020 16:47

Well, it would prove infection rates generated by schools eh?!

Piggywaspushed · 10/10/2020 16:47

Those aren't the same as the tiers the DfE produced in September though. I think we are all supposed to have forgotten about those. I haven't.

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/10/2020 16:51

We are a stones throw from that here.

Must say it's making the commute easier.

House is messier as Dh is starting to wfh Hmm

Twatish blokes standing behind me (closer than 2 m) in boots earlier, one moaning about his mask the other not wearing one, definitely breaking the no mingling. Chatting (shouting) about a big bender tonight.

Not heard such a broad Geordie accent for a while despite living here, couldn't actually understand them bar "I fucking hate masks."

Great.

RigaBalsam · 10/10/2020 16:52

@Piggywaspushed

Those aren't the same as the tiers the DfE produced in September though. I think we are all supposed to have forgotten about those. I haven't.
Nor me! It is ridiculous that they won't even contemplate this. Surely it negates all the arguments and guff about a forgotten generation etc while protecting us a bit better.
Piggywaspushed · 10/10/2020 16:55

Well, they were just done to shut Bousted and Barton up, it seems.

RigaBalsam · 10/10/2020 16:57

Watching Gupta again on BBC. I am sure she is very intelligent but honestly her arguments come across so poorly.

Piggywaspushed · 10/10/2020 17:00

Just reading about a school close to me with 15 cases! 6 staff, 11 students.

Still none at my school, though...

Frlrlrubert · 10/10/2020 17:06

We're having teams training (finally!) on Monday in preparation for the inevitable.

Augustbreeze · 10/10/2020 17:09

Read (via BRTUS) of a GM school (altrincham maybe?) where they had 5 confirmed cases in Y12 so burst the bubble. Then another 20 tested positive...

MrsHamlet · 10/10/2020 17:31

I've just been to aldi. Town is rammed - people falling out of pubs now because of the 10pm curfew. And we're in a local lockdown so I can't go next door for a cuppa...

noblegiraffe · 10/10/2020 17:33

My friend was just telling me about their kid's school which has had several bubbles sent home with quite a few staff and pupils affected.

They have announced they will be doing a deep clean over the weekend to solve the problem. Because obviously it's the dirty school that's the issue. Hmm

Iamnotthe1 · 10/10/2020 17:44

@Piggywaspushed

Those aren't the same as the tiers the DfE produced in September though. I think we are all supposed to have forgotten about those. I haven't.
This is probably the very reason for the new system. We've had stages, R number levels, the Nando's chart, tiers for schools, tiers for society and whatever the hell is going to come next.

It's all to stop us keeping everything straight and holding the Government to account for anything they have said.

MsAwesomeDragon · 10/10/2020 17:46

@noblegiraffe

My friend was just telling me about their kid's school which has had several bubbles sent home with quite a few staff and pupils affected.

They have announced they will be doing a deep clean over the weekend to solve the problem. Because obviously it's the dirty school that's the issue. Hmm

We wouldn't be able to do a deep clean at our school. The only staff who have tested positive are 2 cleaners. They can't even get cover for them, let alone find more cleaners to do a deeper clean (our cleaners are pretty good all the time, but are now working extra hours to cover for the ill and self isolating ones so are knackered)
Keepdistance · 10/10/2020 17:48

There was also the mobile testing that only seems to have ossiblt been to 1 school -maybe the one with 40 then stopped

Iamnotthe1 · 10/10/2020 17:48

@MrsHamlet

I've just been to aldi. Town is rammed - people falling out of pubs now because of the 10pm curfew. And we're in a local lockdown so I can't go next door for a cuppa...
Even the continuued use of the word 'lockdown' is a psychological ploy. Our original 'lockdown' wasn't the same as the lockdowns we'd seen on the news from other countries. These local 'lockdowns' don't actual lock down anything. The only change is that you can't nip to see someone else in their house.

It's absolute joke. Everyone needs to start calling it what it is, which is a localised minor restriction. If we'd have locked down properly in the first place, we wouldn't need this constant stream of bullshit that we're getting right now.

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