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The Twenty-third Republic - school attendance not great - half term to be renamed circuit break?

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/09/2020 23:20

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give ‘The Every twat for Themselves mob’ the staffroom password as a number of them are operating in an alternative reality.

No DfE muppets allowed

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom, especially if you have not used the hand gel. Close the door quietly on your way out and put your mask on

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Danglingmod · 04/10/2020 08:04

Still worth phoning any pharmacy which offers them: Lloyd's, Co-op, Superdrug. I'd just pay. It's just £12.95. I had flu this week last year and then it swept round my school before anyone had had their free jab.

Piggywaspushed · 04/10/2020 08:07

riga I went back and reread my post to see how she could think that!!

I cannot accept that you cna read Hyde and Munro and then see which one you 'agree' with. That's not how data works. Of course anyone who has Munro's ideologies will agree with him and not read beneath his data! It's not an either/or, or even find somewhere in the middle. It's about the reliability of the source and the quality and recentness (?) of the data. Lots of Munro's own colleagues don't align with him!

There's another female tweeter who tweets largely about long Covid (I think from same uni as Munro) who quotes stacks of data and gets trolled. A lot of this is misogyny. I can't see anything in Hyde's threads that is as openly biased as Munro I also think Spiegelhalter is biased

Piggywaspushed · 04/10/2020 08:08

None of them ahve stock dangling ! I will nag him to phone GP back. It's not acceptable. They are understaffed at the best of times. They are one of these surgeries people dismiss as irrelevant or not real on MN : no F2F appointments, no smear tests, no routine stuff, no flu jabs yet...

Danglingmod · 04/10/2020 08:11

I don't know any local surgeries doing ftf appointments! Ours is doing flu jabs (more slowly than the pharmacy!) and they called dh for pneumonia jab right in the middle of lockdown. That lasts almost forever which is reassuring.

pussycatinboots · 04/10/2020 08:18

Piggy
Have you tried Lloyds Pharmacy? We got our flu jabs there nearly 2wks ago. We're both full of rotten colds now, and the pharmacist is the only human we've been within 2m of 🤦🏻‍♀️
I'd ring around every pharmacist in your area. They're having probs getting the right quantities of the right vaccine - sent too many over 65s and not enough under 65s even though that's what they've ordered.

RigaBalsam · 04/10/2020 08:19

@Piggywaspushed

riga I went back and reread my post to see how she could think that!!

I cannot accept that you cna read Hyde and Munro and then see which one you 'agree' with. That's not how data works. Of course anyone who has Munro's ideologies will agree with him and not read beneath his data! It's not an either/or, or even find somewhere in the middle. It's about the reliability of the source and the quality and recentness (?) of the data. Lots of Munro's own colleagues don't align with him!

There's another female tweeter who tweets largely about long Covid (I think from same uni as Munro) who quotes stacks of data and gets trolled. A lot of this is misogyny. I can't see anything in Hyde's threads that is as openly biased as Munro I also think Spiegelhalter is biased

No idea how she thought it. Glad I read Dr Zoe's tweets though as hadn't previously.
WhenSheWasBad · 04/10/2020 08:21

Can I ask an NQTy type question?

Is behaviour normally this bad or is it worse with it being a Covid year?
We do same day detentions at my school, everyday there are at least 20 often 30 kids in detention. It’s the same kids over and over again (school has about 800 kids and is in a naice leafy area).

Just wondering if people think behaviour is worse or if this is more or less normal.

pussycatinboots · 04/10/2020 08:22

Piggy ah, sorry, brain is on a go-slow - I see you've tried them. bugger.
Our Docs are doing their clinic at the local Football ground. We didn't fancy that, surprisingly. Don't give up - keep badgering them.

MrsHerculePoirot · 04/10/2020 08:49

@Piggywaspushed

DH hasn't had his invitation for a flu jab yet. A neighbouring town has done all of theirs, using a facility in our village but our own village surgery can't get its arse in gear.
I didn’t get invited this year - I rang to ask and that’s when they told me about the form in their website...
MrsHerculePoirot · 04/10/2020 08:50

Sorry @Piggywaspushed just read subsequent posts 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

RigaBalsam · 04/10/2020 08:53

Whooo hoo got the text to say negative.

WhenSheWasBad · 04/10/2020 08:59

Great news Riga how long did it take to come back?

WhyNotMe40 · 04/10/2020 09:00

Brilliant Riga!

Saucery · 04/10/2020 09:00

Brilliant, Riga! I am checking my phone compulsively!

RigaBalsam · 04/10/2020 09:02

I had it at 2pm yesterday. Text just came through now.
Rapid!

Piggywaspushed · 04/10/2020 09:04

That was quick! Glad it was good news!!

MsAwesomeDragon · 04/10/2020 09:07

Fabulous Riga. Back to school tomorrow for you!

When I think behaviour is worse this year than normal. The kids have got even more out of the routine of school than they normally do over there summer. Our SLT have asked for the names of classes who are tricky so they can make their presence known in those classes and keep reminding them of the rules and expectations.

RigaBalsam · 04/10/2020 09:08

Thanks all

Fabulous Riga. Back to school tomorrow for you!

Think my daughter is more upset about this than me.

eitak22 · 04/10/2020 09:09

@WhenSheWasBad

Can I ask an NQTy type question?

Is behaviour normally this bad or is it worse with it being a Covid year?
We do same day detentions at my school, everyday there are at least 20 often 30 kids in detention. It’s the same kids over and over again (school has about 800 kids and is in a naice leafy area).

Just wondering if people think behaviour is worse or if this is more or less normal.

Not a teacher an LSA but overall found behaviour in our primary cohort to be worse than previous September's. Our class this year has a few characters but even those who were apparently very well behaved have been answering back and messing around.
NeurotrashWarrior · 04/10/2020 09:13

Great news riga!

I didn't wait for Gp invite and actually never got one this time, though my sons did?! Despite the oldest qualifying at school (which isn't till lat October.)

I booked as early as I could at boots and have been for a couple of years due to the kids I work with. I was flattened early on in a term a few years ago. Interestingly our Sen school gets the flu spray early too. Don't know if that's the LEA or they just do that?

Saucery · 04/10/2020 09:13

Primary - our children are being really good, on the whole. It’s making the behaviour of the children who can’t help acting up stand out more, though. Our usual strategies of sharing staff and Quiet Spaces can’t happen, of course, so that’s not helping with challenging behaviour.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/10/2020 09:17

Behaviour is mixed.

Our more general learning difficulty classes are very settled. They like being in school and are v happy.

Those with adhd are struggling. Those with adhd and asd and are more socially able, very able readers etc are really struggling. They've been too aware of what's been going on. Family life has been very hard. Safeguarding issues, DV etc. It's very hard indeed. Their behaviour is affecting those who've been ok as they can't cope with loud noise or children not following rules. So they're very anxious and stressed.

Obviously huge generalities there but that's roughly how the different cohorts are coping.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/10/2020 09:17

That's currently; I have every faith things will settle. It's just that all that has to come before any real learning can happen.

WhenSheWasBad · 04/10/2020 09:18

ThanksMrsA and eitak I was hoping you would say that Angry

I’m at risk of forgetting about the 90% of kids who turn up, behave beautifully and cause zero problems for themselves or others. Finding the 10% who behave appallingly quite overwhelming at the moment.

And I’m getting conflicting advise on how to deal with it. One SLT member is very softly softly, find out what is really behind it, gently manage them (this is sensible but I’m in the middle of teaching a lesson, I can’t pop outside of a quick counselling session with one kid).
Another SLT member has the opposite advice, be very firm with them. No excuses.

So I’m a bit al over them place with them.

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