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The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 16/08/2020 11:10

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
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Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

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Iamnotthe1 · 18/08/2020 22:44

According to the front page of tomorrow's i, Gav offered to resign but Boris said no. Clearly holding on to him to sack at another point then.

Piggywaspushed · 18/08/2020 22:50

Hmmm... that does all rather suggest that school value added meant next to nothing, unless I am wrong, because of the obsession with matching prior performance to national performances of those students typically?

I reckon that would have hammered by film GCSE CAGs.

I would like to state that I read the entire 350 pages the other day!

May have skipped the hieroglyphics...

noblegiraffe · 18/08/2020 22:50

Thanks Why 😂

Enjoy this clip of a Gav getting his arse handed to him twitter.com/adamboxer1/status/1295681039667429378?s=21

MrsHamlet · 18/08/2020 22:53

Ah... that clip has made me feel a little better

WhyNotMe40 · 18/08/2020 22:54

[quote noblegiraffe]Thanks Why 😂

Enjoy this clip of a Gav getting his arse handed to him twitter.com/adamboxer1/status/1295681039667429378?s=21[/quote]
Oh that was awesome

Hercwasonaroll · 18/08/2020 22:54

👏 👏 Noble.

You can see why it didn't work when it's laid down like that. I think we all hoped for something better. (Although I have no idea how they could have altered the actual modelling, a manual check and appeals process would have been useful).

noblegiraffe · 18/08/2020 22:55

Piggy step three and four describe the adjustment made for previous value added.

Obviously that assumes previous results in the same qualification which is what did for Eton as they were on the first run through a qualification so they were matched to the national picture despite being Eton.

Piggywaspushed · 18/08/2020 23:00

Which is naughty because that is definitely not what they said they'd do.

Piggywaspushed · 18/08/2020 23:02

I think I thought steps 3 and 4 ignored VA so am obviously still confused.

The class he uses as his example conveniently spreads from A* - U across 3 years. Not sure that happens very much?

Piggywaspushed · 18/08/2020 23:03

She.

Unconscious bias shame Blush

noblegiraffe · 18/08/2020 23:08

She

I was about to pick you up on that Grin

They look at how the school performed compared to the national picture in the previous three years, then made a similar adjustment to the predictions for the current cohort. But then they adjusted again depending on the prior attainment of the current year group so it’s not as straightforward as looking at the last three years.

MrsHamlet · 18/08/2020 23:09

Maths is not my happy place. I watch a lot of maths trainees and NQTs and I still don't get it. But I get that, I think.

Keepdistance · 18/08/2020 23:12

Surely if anyone needs to quit its BJ.
It was always going to be hard to get the grades right. Especially when uk it government systems never work.
But would think the schools all in no SD or masks is from.BJ anyway

NeurotrashWarrior · 19/08/2020 07:25

Good old C4, not under the government's thumb.

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2020 07:32

A LOT of moaning about CAGs on the WIWIKAU Facebook page ! (not so much on MN : odd) , mainly related to UCAS predictions.

A lot of these are probably the same parents who lobbied to get Jolyon's UCAS grades raised and now think if they do that enough, CAG will be raised!

Plus, we did UCAS grades last July!!

Quiet an interesting thread on Ofqual statisticians running at the moment. One poster trotted out the teachers over predict line, and then drew their evidence form stuff about UCAS. The second source they used as 'evidence' actually expressed lots of concern about teacher under prediction. Remember when we were being accused of that, around about the time we were doing CAGs? Can they not see warning us that we are all a bunch of SEN averse, sexist racists may have pushed some grades up?

Why did we used to send predicted grades to exam boards? And why did that stop?

Once more, we can't do wrong for doing right.

Another question... this famous algorithm. Why was it only run on the children a few weeks ago to send them out? Apparently, the GCSE one had only just been run. Why? They could have done it months ago!

noblegiraffe · 19/08/2020 08:34

Where did you see that it had only been run recently? That’s mad.

Us4Them are trying really hard to seem reasonable on the ‘schools safe to re-open’ thread. Bless them, it leaves them with nothing to say.

Danglingmod · 19/08/2020 08:38

New thread on transport to school. Some parents have only just twigged their kids are going to be rammed on buses with kids all going to different schools and why haven't more buses been put on?

noblegiraffe · 19/08/2020 08:57

Tbf the government only twigged that last week. £40 million for dedicated school buses that I’m sure there’s plenty of time left to organise.

Danglingmod · 19/08/2020 08:58

Yes, and extra buses for our county alone estimated at £1m a week. X 38 school weeks - thank you very much, we'll have all of that Grin

Danglingmod · 19/08/2020 09:06

Throughout the summer, I've seen absolutely dozens of schools advertising for cleaners. I'd like to think these are extra roles but, knowing that there is no money for this, I'm more inclined to believe it's turnover of staff. It will be absolutely dreadful if they can't recruit replacements.

Danglingmod · 19/08/2020 09:16

So, a few more cases of schoolchildren in Scotland testing positive which are (possibly, rightly) being described as community transmission at the moment.

However, in the article on the BBC, they report Sturgeon imploring people to keep to the rules on socialising in houses and especially to avoid house parties because "evidence suggests, if the virus is present at a house party, then everyone at the party is at significant risk of infection..." How is a full school classroom any less risky???

Ickabog · 19/08/2020 09:19

How is a full school classroom any less risky???

Coronavirus is afraid of us scary teachers, so afraid that it won't enter the magical school building. So schools are safe. Grin

Medra · 19/08/2020 09:21

Classrooms seem to be this weird, sterile, virus killing environment. It’s like we all walk into school through some portal to an alternative Covid-free universe.

noblegiraffe · 19/08/2020 09:22

Covid is spread by fun and there isn’t any of that going on in my classroom.

Ickabog · 19/08/2020 09:23

@noblegiraffe

Covid is spread by fun and there isn’t any of that going on in my classroom.
I might steal that one Grin
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