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The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 16/08/2020 11:10

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
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-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
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Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

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Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:28

www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-roger-taylor-chair-ofqual

So, we should get to see moderated grades.

DS gets results on Thursday so I am relived,. His music could have been a shitshow.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 17/08/2020 16:40

I feel like we are in some sort of new reality game show 'Pick Your Grade' 'The Grade is Right', The Golden Grade ....

higher or lower .....

Gav - you're fired!

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Hercwasonaroll · 17/08/2020 16:40

Main reasons against CAGs just being awarded are:

  • conversations with students who you haven't passed
  • centres that entered massively over inflated grades (there should be a check on this)
  • devaluing this years grades (probably not so important now!)
  • possible impacts for 2021
StaffAssociationRepresentative · 17/08/2020 16:42

I don't want to go in on Thursday. I might need to go for a Covid test

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Danglingmod · 17/08/2020 16:42

Yes, to grade inflation even higher than just by CAG alone...

What the hell are they going to do for next year's year 13s? They're the ones who've actually lost loads of teaching time.. IF exams go ahead as normal and grade boundaries are lowered to allow similar results to this year and then for that grade inflation to be the new normal, then last year's cohort (current first year Uni) and the few years before are really screwed with much lower grades on average on their CVs.

Appuskidu · 17/08/2020 16:43

What happens if the A level student needed AAA but got a place at university through UCAS on AAB anyway-has accepted place, registered and paid for accommodation...

Then the CAGs are released by the school, and turn out to be AAB. Can the university withdraw the place saying they’d given him the benefit of the doubt that he’d have got an A we’re it not for the algorithm/stat model, but as he didn’t, he can’t come??

motherrunner · 17/08/2020 16:43

And why isn’t our PM actually making a statement?!

Danglingmod · 17/08/2020 16:45

That wouldn't happen, Appu.

If the first choice Uni confirmed an offer based on the algorithm, it would still stand. After all, one grade drop at all but the very top Unis would still see you keep your place.

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:45

Give him a break mother. he is on a well deserved rest break

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:48

centres that entered massively over inflated grades (there should be a check on this)

It is so blindingly obvious now isn't it that they failed in their obvious obligation to check in/up on those schools.

They said they didn't because it would reveal results to schools : another sign they simply don't trust us with confidential info.

motherrunner · 17/08/2020 16:48

Oh yes. It’s hard work fucking up, I mean leading, a country 🙄

cantkeepawayforever · 17/08/2020 16:49

I think they are keeping Gavin so that he can also be the fall guy when schools open, and Covid rates go so high some have to be closed and parents screech 'but you PROMISED they would open....'. So I would say first couple of weeks in October at the latest.....

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:49

So, the NI education minister makes a proper prose statement then, whereas we get Ofqual guy via Zoom.

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:49

press

Danglingmod · 17/08/2020 16:50

I am actually seething that they've gone with CAGs without any checks on the schools that will have entered inflated grades. Ignore the unfairness on the cohorts either side, what about the students in this year's cohort whose schools played fair?

monkeytennis97 · 17/08/2020 16:53

@Danglingmod

I am actually seething that they've gone with CAGs without any checks on the schools that will have entered inflated grades. Ignore the unfairness on the cohorts either side, what about the students in this year's cohort whose schools played fair?
I would like to think they were in the massive minority as most Heads were afraid of being downgraded I think if we didn't match with previous whole school data.... although that could just be me looking on the bright side...(unheard of).
Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:54

Haha, Richard Osman on Twitter :

this government U Turn was originally a B Turn

monkeytennis97 · 17/08/2020 16:54

@Piggywaspushed

centres that entered massively over inflated grades (there should be a check on this)

It is so blindingly obvious now isn't it that they failed in their obvious obligation to check in/up on those schools.

They said they didn't because it would reveal results to schools : another sign they simply don't trust us with confidential info.

Exactly this.
HipTightOnions · 17/08/2020 16:55

Yes, this is what I’m really upset about Danglingmod. We made some really tough decisions because we knew that otherwise the grades were going to be moderated down - and now it turns out they’re not.

Gutted.

Danglingmod · 17/08/2020 16:55

I hope you're right, Monkey. And if the majority of the "inflated" grades are disadvantaged students getting Cs and Ds instead of Ds, Es and Us, I suppose it's a benign thing.

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 16:55

Lets' face it , we haven't yet heard of one school (even here where we could be honest) who has done better than expected...

There at obviously pockets within schools but I don't think whole schools have profited.

Our Law and Classics results will rocket!

motherrunner · 17/08/2020 16:56

Agree with @monkeytennis97.

When I rank ordered my pupils and gave a fair, consisted grade based on prior attainment, some students were still moved in our standardising meeting as my HoD was very aware that this year’s Yr 12 cohort wasn’t as strong according to KS2 data as last year’s, but we had placed them higher.

The process applied at my school was very rigorous.

noblegiraffe · 17/08/2020 16:56

Daily Mail headline is “Boris forced into embarrassing climb down” not Gav, which is interesting.

Danglingmod · 17/08/2020 16:56

We're an 11-16 school and feel sick about the GCSE CAGs in the same way.

Centres being punished for doing the right thing. Seems so unfair.

Hercwasonaroll · 17/08/2020 16:56

@Danglingmod I agree. The unfairness has just been shifted now. If you went to a school that just entered everyone a 9 there is literally no check on this now.

Universities will have a fuck ton of work to sort out this mess. The work has been shifted from schools to university.