The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!

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I would like to think they were in the massive minority as most Heads were afraid of being downgraded I think if we didn't match with previous whole school data

They won’t be in the massive minority though, if 40% of grades were “downgraded” and have now been “re-upgraded”.

Does anyone know what is happening at universities?

If students missed out on places but now have their offer grades, are they entitled to that place now? Has the place been offered to someone else and if so surely it won’t be withdrawn?

We know there should be enough places overall, but there will still be competition for popular universities/courses.

There was a girl on the BBC who is at a large Cambs sixth form who had CAGs of ABB and got DDD ( I think). She can now pursue study of vet med.

The boy from DS's school can hopefully get to Cambridge to do his music degree now he has A A A instead of BBB. These things can only be good things.

@HipTightOnions

I would like to think they were in the massive minority as most Heads were afraid of being downgraded I think if we didn't match with previous whole school data

They won’t be in the massive minority though, if 40% of grades were “downgraded” and have now been “re-upgraded”.

I thought it was 12%.. mine didn't change so I perhaps wasn't following all the in's and outs of it as much as others.

Did we all notice they never told us the A*-E pass rate? they obviously had given out loads of Us!

40% of grades were changed. But using CAGs only would have led to grade inflation of 12% overall. Not sure how that works tho.

For GCSE I’ve no idea how many grades were changed by the algorithm, but CAGs would have let to grade inflation of 9%.

The overall pass rate went up.

Surely there would be genuinely some Us, though. Some centres must have given some legitimately?

Yes, even (was it Geoff Barton on the BBC news this morning?) neutral parties admit some centres will have entered higher than deserved grades just assuming the standardisation process would do its thing. Total FUBAR whichever way you look at it.

40% of grades were changed. But using CAGs only would have led to grade inflation of 12% overall. Not sure how that works tho.

I think it’s like this but happy to be corrected!

If everyone’s CAG was one grade “too high”, that would mean 100% “downgraded”, but would still only represent grade inflation of 1 grade. 1 grade -> different % increases, depending on which measure you use (A/A, A-C etc.)

(Is that right?)

@Danglingmod

That wouldn't happen, Appu.

If the first choice Uni confirmed an offer based on the algorithm, it would still stand. After all, one grade drop at all but the very top Unis would still see you keep your place.

Really? I do hope so .

Can we get Andy Burnham back please??

So nearly a week after Gav said they could use their mock grades, they can no longer use their mock grades.

Which is outrageous.

I wish they would stop saying over optimistic on the news. Optimism and over optimism are different things.

We were encouraged to be optimistic to , for example, FSM pupils.

Andy Burnham just said ' teachers deserve an apology'.

Or their NEA noble which is possibly just as well....

They must have been told how unreliable mocks were. You would think the DfE would know this.

See, we were encouraged, nay instructed, to be brutally realistic about their most likely grade. Then we had to go back and edit them down because we’d still been too generous.

Kicking ourselves now.

Maybe they should bring back a standardised mock system a bit like (I don't know) an AS level? (I'm only half serious and do see the benefit of skipping a year with no external exams).

Could a Scottish teacher correct me if I'm wrong: aren't the prelims in Scotland much more of a standardised thing than our mocks? I know of no young person in Scotland who's ever been surprised either way by their Nat 5/Higher/AH results as their prelims always seem so reliable?

In my school, too, Onions .

Layla Moran was great on BBC now.

By we were encouraged I don't mean by the school. The government, Ofqual, various experts, all put lots of emphasis on unconscious bias.

At the end of the day, 50% of my film class's results will now go up (by one grade each) and I think they were all bar one 'could go either way' types but I am happier that their higher result reflects their overall potential.

Interestingly, of those 4 kids, 3 of them got downgraded in every A Level they did. Odd how it hammered particular individuals so much.

The BBC kept talking about the Government finally listening, does this mean they might listen to teachers about safely reopening schools?

@ineedaholidaynow

The BBC kept talking about the Government finally listening, does this mean they might listen to teachers about safely reopening schools?

🙏🙏🙏

That Hutchinson bloke annoying people again by saying 'we have badly let these students down'

Who is this 'we' of whom this assistant headteacher speaks?? Synecdoche doth not become him.

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay

Where does this leave all the students that didn’t get their university offers and lost their places? Presumably a lot of those places got filled at the end of last week be pupils who got higher than expected.

What a complete fuck up.

This is what I want to know.

The Tories have all been told to blame Ofqual...