Thirteenth Republic - School’s out for summer, no more pencils no more books!

[StaffAssociationRepresentative]

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

I've definitely got a full house.

Lone parent, no adult social contact for 5 or 6 days now so spending too much time on here.

I am TRYING to focus on hearts and minds of those who may be listening than fighting with those who will stick to their guns no matter what reasoning, data or experience was placed in front of them.

Sometimes I fail lol

@Piggywaspushed

I take it you put them right Katherine!

I did say that the article in which they were used as evidence that children don't pass it on said at the end that schools had been shut so may have affected children's transmission rates. So they couldn't use it as proof that children didn't spread it. But I'm sure they'll just continue on, using whatever parts of the science they want as evidence and disregarding everything else.

For sure. They don't let facts and science get in the way of ideology.

Just been told all schools went back in Netherlands with no consequences. Suddenly ,three posts later , there were rotas!

If the Swallows & Amazon’s thread in Aibu is anything to go by, I think half the problem might be that nobody reads the threads so there’s no chance of them seeing any arguments you make.

True!

I’ve just started a thread in chat to try to push the narrative more towards what the bastard government could actually do to help support the obvious childcare issues and help schools be more about promoting learning. You know, the thing we were hired to do.

Apparently, threads where teachers offer helpful ideas about schooling and sound concerned about education aren’t as interesting as threads where people are demanding teachers heads on sticks.

Or my idea might be shit. Who knows!

Twas ever thus belle.

I somehow got UsFor Them back on my Facebook. So much nastiness about unions and schools.

Loads of them want to home school now. Irony bypass???

Apparently, threads where teachers offer helpful ideas about schooling and sound concerned about education aren’t as interesting as threads where people are demanding teachers heads on sticks.
To be fair, they probably aren't as interesting - a bit like the ones about nice mother-in-laws

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/01/now-teachers-sound-alarm-over-plans-to-reopen-schools

nudging nudging...

Interesting concession by DfE in last paragraph.

Scientists coming round...

I’m not sure the scientists were ever completely on board with full opening and very little mitigation.

Agreed. Jenny Harries would but only if children were literally locked up the rest of their time!!

mobile.twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1289657190735699968

If this is right, there may be more of a staffing issue than people are expecting. How widely do you think they might expand the shielding program to prevent a national lockdown?

Oooh, that’s interesting @RafaIsTheKingOfClay

Seen on twitter

Did it upload?

BINGO! Pubs or schools has just had the teachers need to teach! Whoop Whoop ! back onto the the usual they are paid to teach and it will soon descend into the 'but they have done bugger all for six months'.

@Piggywaspushed - I pray that they homeschool their children

@noblegiraffe - very funny

Removing all over 50s from work is utterly "unworkable" (!).....

Why do we have to have yet another new idea (presuming there's an ounce of truth in that tweet)? Why not just get the existing/ previously announced ones right, eg track and trace that works, using local health authorities, GPs etc, and aiming for zero infections like Scotland and NZ?

I don’t know if it’s all over 50s or extending it to more over 50s i.e. the clinically vulnerable as well as the extremely clinically vulnerable.

I get the feeling that we’re in the middle of the repeating the ‘nothing to worry about I’ve shaken hands with everyone’ incident with the normality by Xmas thing and Boris has learnt nothing. Hopefully whatever that meeting was it involved someone spelling things out to him in very short words.

@Piggywaspushed

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/01/now-teachers-sound-alarm-over-plans-to-reopen-schools

nudging nudging...

Interesting concession by DfE in last paragraph.

Scientists coming round...

I found it a frustrating read. The DfE think that the hygiene and cleaning measures will be enough, when they've given schools no extra money for anything to help with these.

But at least they admit there may be localised school closures. And I was pleased in the article to see that they had two scientists give their views, although that wouldn't be enough for the naysayers to counteract the same few studies they keep trotting out, like they're the Ten Commandments.

Well it's all kicked off in the Melbs with a 8.00.p.m.-5.00. a.m. curfew and all students back to remote learning on Wednesday. This from the premier Daniel Andrews who held on to to 11s and 12s staying in school past the time principals were begging for him to shut them down, though only by a week, to be fair.

With Dan the Man you can always tell when it's bad news because he wears a suit. Any other day it's his North Face jacket.

Has there been an upside to all this?

By sheer chance, the most dazzling winter imaginable; sunny day after sunny day, the most beautiful I've seen since being in Australia. Now I think of it, this means not much rain, so trouble later.🔥 On the other hand if it does rain the grass grows like buggery and so 🔥later when it all dries out. Hey ho.

I said to DH that the only thing that will keep young people in and behaving (and older people, too) would be a curfew!