Bubbles and self-declaration forms

[Jessie40]

Hi, when I was last in school we were setting up for the 1st of June and the conversation about school bubbles being arranged. However a comment was made, if you are in a school bubble you wouldn't be able to have a social bubble when this is allowed. So teachers were saying that would not be able to see parents if /when this is allowed until they have been in isolation for 14 days. Is this what other school staff plan to do swell?
Also has anyone else been asked to sign a self declaration form before returning? stating your health/any symptoms also if you don't have any health conditions you are able to work.
Please be kind with your answers. I posted on here a few weeks and the responses ending up in an argument so I gave up reading. Thank you!

I had to complete a health form about a week ago. It was to help with planning the phased return. Some staff will not be returning, or will be but not to face to face roles. A form now seems more like a way to cover their backs.

Your employer can't stop what you do in your personal life. But I think it is important to factor in the fact that we will be at a relatively high risk when planing social gatherings. Even up until now, I've considered meeting up with people but decided against it due to the risk of passing on covid as I've been in work. This isn't unique to teachers, but I think everyone should be cautious still with the people they love, especially if they are vulnerable in any way.

We haven't been told that, and I'd ignore it if we had. There hasn't been mention of social bubbles.

No declaration, but we did fill in a form about childcare issues, so head knew who would be late arriving etc.

I don't plan to see my parents or vulnerable friends until the summer holidays, and will probably wait 14 days into it as well. But then I live far enough away that I would stay with them overnight.

And yes, what qwery said - we're going to visit family tomorrow and Friday before we add school risk into the mix. We've all been home for 7 days. Own risk assessment, law is toothless as demonstrated by our government.

I won’t see anyone before the summer hols. I already live with a vulnerable toddler so I will be reducing risk in any way possible outside of going to work.

I'd imagine the social bubbles idea is entirely separate from school bubbles - the term is being used in two slightly different ways, which I a bit confusing. The govt guidance which says they're considering social bubbles points to the New Zealand explanation of these, there was nothing there about taking into consideration what jobs members might be involved in during their working week.

Realistically, I probably won't see family until the summer holidays now.

However, I live alone and being allowed a social bubble would be really nice. I can't really imagine my head trying to interfere with my private life, but if he did I would be raising that this disproportionately impacts staff that live alone.

This hasn't been said, and I think whoever said it was probably scaremongering, though.

The school cannot dictate what you do/see in your own free time.

That is the risk going back. Parents aren’t going to say that they are not mixing with friends or family because they are in an education bubble

The Guernsey model (a friend explained) is that two families have been allowed to form one bubble (so just making a bigger household) so I imagine that all rules applying to the school bubble will apply to the whole social bubble - if they are all supposed to self-isolate, that will mean Granny's house too, if not all, only the children from the school bubble.

I thought it would be nice to have a bubble with my single friend who lives down the road, she may not think this would be nice with my DCs and may choose a more sane set of companions.

I have not seen my elderly parents throughout, and by going back to school on the 1st know that I will have to put myself in quarantine for 14 days after term ends if I am to see them in the summer holidays (should that be allowed by then - they are medically vulnerable due to age, but not shielding).

I would have thought that was common sense?

Yep regardless of what the guidance is at that point I intend to see my parents in the summer holidays after self isolating for 2 weeks, but on the flip side whatever easing there is before hand I won’t feel comfortable seeing them while I’m mixing with so many people at work.

I hadn’t heard anything or thought about that. I’ll leave it up to my friends and family but to be honest, I can’t see any problem with me or them meeting in a garden, etc,. I’m unlikely to be dripping in virus or spurting it out from every pore. The numbers of infected people are dropping so the risk of me catching it are much lower. If a child/adult in my school bubble had shown signs of illness, they’d have been sent home and I’d be isolating myself under those circumstances.

The social bubble thing is bonkers. What if the people I want to bubble with, wouldn't choose me as their first bubble? We've just moved to a new village, we barely know anyone, certainly not well enough to choose to bubble with them for childcare reasons. It won't be a gov thing.

I suspect Guernsey is a little bit tighter knit than your average commuter village in Kent.