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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

The Third Republic - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/05/2020 19:51

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are not staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

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TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 11:03

They don’t comprehend how broken education is already and how pushed to edge teachers already are. So to them adding a load more onto the camels backs is nothing. I suspect the government know better and will endeavour not to push us over the edge they’ve put us on. Or at to manage the numbers rather than a massive first wave of teachers jumping ship.

Hercwasonaroll · 09/05/2020 11:07

The bucket poster has to be a troll, no one is that stupid surely?!

Solidarity to you all on this glorious weekend. Hopefully some down time for us all without the pressure of work.

greathat · 09/05/2020 11:08

I've got a year 9 that's incapable of staying on her seat and wanders round the room . Is that excludable behaviour in the world of social distancing?

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 11:13

People can be that thick sadly.

Being thick isn’t a bad thing if you’re capable of humility, being a bit arrogant isn’t too terrible if you’re genuinely intelligent and capable. Being thick and arrogant is a fucking disaster and frequently dangerous

MsAwesomeDragon · 09/05/2020 11:13

greathat if it is my whole year 9 class and one of my year 10 classes will be excluded. The whole lot of them need to get up for a wander at least every half an hour. These are mostly kids with no diagnosed SEN but are the nurture group.

greathat · 09/05/2020 11:15

Yes this is my "special" class

pinkrocker · 09/05/2020 11:15

Just thinking, if there was an AMA I'm a teacher thread. You'd know exactly who to expect. No way of blocking a poster is there??

ChloeDecker · 09/05/2020 11:19

Morning!

My sister lives in Cyprus and has sent me this news article of how they are returning to school. Their lockdown has been a few weeks longer than ours and they are incredibly low on cases and deaths.

Her DD in Primary isn’t doing back, which is interesting to note and might stick in some posters’ throats in other threads! - this is just their Secondaries/equivalent.

Only 12 to a class and timetables have been altered to stay in one place as much as possible-excess chairs and tables physically removed for distancing and lots of posters (as children really read those don’t they?!)

She couldn’t tell me what is happening with practical subjects but she did say they don’t do much Computing/food/DT etc in timetables lessons and these are mostly after school clubs anyway and not in the curriculum day, per se.

I find it interesting that they are providing masks, cleaning gel/supplies and thermometers to all.

cyprus-mail.com/2020/05/09/coronavirus-schools-ready-for-monday/

pinkrocker · 09/05/2020 11:21

@Chloe Cypriot govt takes no notice from teaching unions though, does it? I've been keeping up to date with the Cyprus mail too (I used to live there)

Appuskidu · 09/05/2020 11:26

Ha ha-the only comment that’s been posted on that article made me laugh!

CallmeAngelina · 09/05/2020 11:27

Thank fuck that thread has closed.

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 11:34

Another thought is that you don’t get people shouting where are the social workers and social services when claiming to be worried about children at risk at home. How did that become entirely teachers problem and why aren’t they all on here every summer holiday worrying about children at risk.

Just want to remind myself as much as anyone again that these very loud mn’ers are not representative of parents as a whole.

The level of sheer rage some of these women feel at having even teenagers, so not little ones who need active hands on care all day, at home is incredible.

pfrench · 09/05/2020 11:40

Makes me assume they don't like their children very much, or are annoyed about how much of their v important lives their children impact on.

Social workers are interesting- they are going to be up to their necks when things open up a bit. Lots have been instructed to work from home, erk. A friend who works for the nspcc says that their calls are up loads. Focus should be on the elements of vulnerable who are there through bad parental choices, rather than circumstance.

FrippEnos · 09/05/2020 11:45

TheHoneyBadger

I suspect that those teenagers that need hands on care fall in to three broad school categories.

SEND - obviously
Those that are lazy and do no work at school anyway
and those that are disruptive in lessons.
I also think that the latter two groups are also in the 'don't do anything' wrong its the teachers fault' category.

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 11:55

So the same kids who make us not want to go to work are the kids making parents demand schools go back whatever the risk Grin

ChloeDecker · 09/05/2020 11:57

Cypriot govt takes no notice from teaching unions though, does it?

A bit like ours then Grin I’m not sure to be honest as my sister is not a teacher so don’t know a lot of detail but am keeping an eye like you!

thank fuck that thread has closed

What, you mean you haven’t been gathering all the buckets that you can find????!! ShockWinkGrin

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 11:58

Maybe kids who have difficult behaviour but a privileged home should be the ones who stay off longest in the hopes their parents might actually face and deal with their behaviour?

The kids who’ve been listening to their parents banging on about how shit and lazy teachers are throughout lockdown are going to be so much fun when they return

RigaBalsam · 09/05/2020 12:10

Oh my gosh! The buckets so funny.

Imagine the broken bones. Sad

TheHoneyBadger · 09/05/2020 12:27

Not to mention:

Miss where’s your bucket? Would you say you’ve got a big bucket miss? How many hands have you had in your bucket miss etc. Lots of loud braying from the peanut gallery

cantkeepawayforever · 09/05/2020 12:31

I was thinking of an analogy this morning.

Imagine a school as a typical 6 hour InterCity train ride.

Every seat is full, in fact over-full. Some toilets are working, others are not. There is a single buffet. The windows only open marginally. Occasionally, a bored member of staff wanders through to pick up rubbish, empty bins and perhaps run a cloth over a spillage.

At the start of the day, everyone - all kinds of people, from smart businessmen to those whose behaviour might normally give cause for concern (the odd group of football fans, a hen party, etc etc) - join the train from a crowded platform of family members seeing them off.

While on the train, for a primary school, every carriage has to stay where they are EXCEPT for a couple of random 'in the middle of the countryside' stops, where groups from every carriage rush around madly, jumping on each other, huddling in groups etc.

For secondary, every hour, every person on the train must find another seat in another carriage, with the usual squash in doorways and along the corridor. Some coaches have specialised equipment, which different groups use all journey.

In every carriage, there is one person who is 'in charge' and has to make certain that every person sitting in the carriage receives and understands a particular message, and can repeat it perfectly. In the carriages replicating 'primary' classrooms, this person in charge has to repeat the message personally to at least half the carriage, by walking through it and speaking directly to them, close to.

At the end of the journey, the whole train diembarks, again to a crowded platform of family members, including those who are ill or frail or medically vulnerable.

If you wouldn't get onto that train and take that journey at moment, or be the person in charge of each carriage, then why do you expect teachers to go into school?

SallyLovesCheese · 09/05/2020 12:36

I'm sad I appear to have missed the bucket fun! This "lazy, workshy, overpaid teacher" was too busy working this sunny Saturday.

I have a rather lovely red metal bucket with the word 'Fire' on it. I'm sure that'll be just the thing for my lessons for the first few weeks back.

RigaBalsam · 09/05/2020 12:37

Good analogy Cant

tadjennyp · 09/05/2020 12:38

That is a great analogy!
Lockdown is getting to me at the moment. Thursday would have been my year 11 speaking exams and a culmination of all that practice. I have had some lovely messages thanking me, saying they love German now. But I feel a bit robbed, to be honest. So glad it's sunny and I can sit in the garden!

greathat · 09/05/2020 12:49

I've just realised I have a bucket in my classroom! It's a science lab so they bucket is full of sand for pouring on small fires. As the hospital has all our goggles I won't be able to do practicals anyway

WhyNotMe40 · 09/05/2020 12:53

I have a bucket. It's to catch the drips from the leaky roof when it rains....