The flowers thing...

[saraclara]

Can we not? The number of threads asking the same stuff on other branches is doing my head in, but the flower bombing is a really immature response which really isn't doing the profession any favours right now.

I know I've no right to ask and everyone can do as they like, but I honestly think it's giving people ammunition.

[circusintown]

@FrippEnos to stop the misconception that teachers have it easy/do nothing/have loads of holidays/are sitting on their arse doing nothing etc. as has been outlined on this thread

[FrippEnos]

@circusintown

To visibly support each and mental health.

And also to not expand any energy to reply.

[BeingATwatItsABingThing]

no, you'll never get there with certain people though.

Exactly! So why bother? Maybe they’ll give up the teacher bashing when they realise no one is going to rise to the bait.

[circusintown]

True.

[circusintown]

Be interesting to see if it makes a blind bit of difference.

[FrippEnos]

circusintown

Bizarrely enough its not so much about them and more about us.

[ChloeDecker]

Be interesting to see if it makes a blind bit of difference.

To be fair, it has made some difference already.

[SallyLovesCheese]

Yes, I think it's made some difference. On several threads the arguers have stopped posting.

I'm another who posts two or three sensible posts, then resorts to flowers if there are some who continue to push. But I do try and respond properly to those who are asking genuine questions.

[circusintown]

@FrippEnos I understand that. My point was that surely radio silence is more effective than pages full of flower emojis which looks immature.

[Piggywaspushed]

Is there a rule that teachers have to be mature?

I think teacher baiting is immature tbh. And nasty.

[ChloeDecker]

My point was that surely radio silence is more effective than pages full of flower emojis which looks immature.

I understand your first part of the point but seriously, for the past month, this approach was tried to some extent.

All that happens is that more and more goady posters pile in, more people make generalised rants and therefore, the lurkers or genuine parents reading it, take it in and it becomes part of their viewpoint too.
So, regarding your last part of the point, radio silence never happens and these threads don’t just stop in their tracks if no teacher posts.
However, the flowers have stopped bunfights, blood pressure and trolls on multiple threads and I do want to point out that there have been far fewer flowers need today, as a result.
Believe me. This thread that you have found and commented on, is based on one, also in The Staffroom I might add, was one that has been about 6 weeks in the making (some would say a few years)
Have a lovely rest of day.

[FrippEnos]

@circusintown

And that is your opinion and I respect it, in the same way that I respect the OP's opinion.

I don't agree, I think that myths, misinformation about the profession should be confronted. And if the baiting continues flowers. It much better than getting wound up and having thread full of lies about teachers.

So the question is can you respect others opinions that they/we will continue to do it?

[Mistressiggi]

circusintown to be fair is this not an ideal topic for you to employ the phrase "not my circus, not my monkeys"? I don't wish to reason with a non-teacher in staffroom.

[saraclara]

I don't wish to reason with a non-teacher in staffroom

Seriously?

[saraclara]

Is there a rule that teachers have to be mature?

If we want to be respected rather than sneered at, yes, I think responding with intelligence and maturity is wise.

I think teacher baiting is immature tbh. And nasty.

Of course it is. It's horrible. But sinking to those people's level is surely not the wisest move.

[StaffAssociationRepresentative]

We do not have to defend ourselves in the Staffroom. People either agree or they move on and argue on another thread

#solidarity #teachermentalhealth #bekind

[Piggywaspushed]

We have endlessly responded with our intelligence. To no avail.

They sneer anyway.

I haven't actually noticed anyone on those specific threads sneering at the flowers.

[FrippEnos]

saraclara

I often wonder what would happen if teachers where allowed to respond in kind to abusive parents.

You know, what would happen if teachers could tell parents to fuck off when they are being abused either in person or on the phone.

And even hit back when hit (not pupils).

Teachers are seen as passive and unable to respond in anyway, SLT will often ignore or placate the parents and the teachers are left in limbo because responding will cost them their jobs.

And what we are seeing on here is part of that.

[Mistressiggi]

Yep saraclara, do people on ivf threads want to have to explain why ivf should receive nhs funding to people who didn't need it in the first place (etc etc). This is the Staffroom. We can speak in a language we all understand as we do the same job. I don't mind visitors but I mind ones who think they deserve explanations from me.

[circusintown]

I don't expect an explanation. And just to reiterate I completely support teachers and recognise the difficulties their job brings. I absolutely disagree with the teacher bashing and people thinking they know better.

"Is there a rule that teachers have to be mature?

I think teacher baiting is immature tbh. And nasty."

It is. Of course it is. This came up on active threads. I haven't actively gone searching for teachers to debate with, nor do I want to debate with them.

You're all doing a fantastic job just as you always do, I'd never say otherwise. Didn't expect to be told to bugger off back to AIBU after inadvertently wandering in to your staff room though!

And nowhere have I deserved the reminder to #bekind! Carry on with your flowers, I get the fact that's it alternative to banging your head against a brick wall and if it helps crack on. I'm allowed to think it looks silly but I know when I'm not wanted so I'll close the door on my way out

[Piggywaspushed]

Thank you

for you to take home and put in vase !

[circusintown]

Thanks piggy much appreciated