Ham pr disasters 55! …no neither David Attenborough or John major will be head of state! ….

[jeffgoldblum]

Keep calm and carry on!

The number of threads is proportional to the volume of information put into the public domain by the principals.

Hence there are multiple threads dedicated to the Sussexes and their PR issues.

The Sussexes have been working closely with the Sun for some time, particularly Matt Wilkinson, who has had several exclusive stories.

It's more likely that there has been an advertising deal for As ever to run alongside Sussex stories, and it is unrelated to the current story.

I find it extremely odd that Meghan was allowed to make a copy of this letter, and then kept it on file.

I’d have thought being able to make a copy would be a breach of some kind. Her keeping it suggests it was held as evidence for exactly this occasion.

And I think it’s disgusting that it’s now being shared with the media by her team.

It’s all so very cynical and calculated.

Are you meaning James Middleton ? Catherine’s brother ? What “ dealings with Russians” are you talking about ?

@smilesy that's what I said, they are investigating the letter and their response. I've put more in a previous post. Posters are going off on flights of fancy, seemingly so unaware how much the royal family are protected even over a loss of reputation, claiming that there's no way the MET would receive a letter like this. Parts of this thread is ridiculous and just like everyone jumped on Axel R parents doing everything they could, when they aided and abetted their son, why not learn by their mistakes, not prove themselves to be utterly stupid and wait. A lot of posters need to examine their bias.

Doria isn't being "picked over".
Nonsense.

There is no way that she was allowed to make a copy of this “letter”.

I think this letter doesn’t exist or was fabricated. Sounds like Thomas Jr and MM are conspiring against their father.

Or trying to machine gun the pigeon called William in the tree by shooting through the roof and then wondering you’re covered in broken glass and then blaming William for your bloody head.

Frankly I'm increasingly visualising the HAMs as something like Pig-Pen in the Peanuts cartoons....trailing around, popping up, always surrounded by a cloud of heaven knows what..

My default now is that everything is done or effect, and that nothing they say as an entity an be trusted to be the truth, nothing can be taken at face value.

Might just be me but it's pretty awful.

Because everyone is in agreement about AMW. There’s no counter arguments put forward so there isn’t much to say is there?

read my post again. Is everyone in agreement about RF inaction about AMW?

well I guess at least HaM havent paid £12 mln to TMS victims to try to make it all go away, like it happened with RF and AMW/Guiffre

I really wouldn't want to work with an organisation who wrote crap like this about me, so it's certainly an interesting choice to make.

They also had the ear of Gavin Newsome for years, the governor of the very state TM is a citizen of, and who no doubt could use his own influence for investigations to be carried out behind the scenes.

The notion that Meghan couldn’t say anything about the allegations to the press because mud sticks, so had to make up an alternative story for the estrangement is a complete straw man. As I said in the other thread, she didn’t have to say a single word about any of it. All she had to say is that it was a private family matter and ask the press to respect that. But she monetised her reasons for the estrangement on Netflix, as did Harry in Spare. And created a big deflection from the alleged truth in the process.

Also the notion that this extremely powerful (platform/connections wise) self proclaimed feminist and child protection advocate couldn’t do anything about the allegations against her father is another straw men. Ordinary, powerless, women (and men) have had to put themselves through hell to bring abusers and predators to justice and deal with being disbelieved and vilified. They have had to stand up in court and be called liars. These are people without huge and vocal support groups like the Sussex squad, without the likes of Gloria , Oprah, WHO and the Kennedy Foundation in their camp, without sympathetic and friendly journalists in numerous media outlets, and without millions in the bank to pay for their own private investigations and lawyers. The “helpless Meghan” narrative now being pedalled out by her supporters is one big pile of horseshit.

Are the adverts online or in the print edition? Because if online might they not just be some sort of algorithm? Not that I don’t think she might stoop that low. But…?

I think it does exist, I believe the Met have now confirmed that it does and was shared with Meghan in 2018.

It doesn’t explain why she was allowed to make a copy.

The whole thing is extremely odd.

None of the extended family of married in members of the RF deserve scrutiny but they get it. Catherine’s family have endured a lot more scrutiny than the Ragland side of MM’s family and have withstood it.

I don’t think Doria Ragland needs to speak in public, which is why I was surprised she chose to do so for Netflix.

She’s not responsible for what the press prints about MM and can’t control it, but she could support her daughter in handling it emotionally. Not saying she didn’t, but MM made no mention of that in her various complaints about how unsupported she felt.

Good try

Can you link where the MET have confirmed they sent it?

Genuine question btw, I'm not being goady but all my search brings up is yesterday's story about them confirming they're investigating if it was sent.

I have to admit I wonder about the existence of the letter. If the Met are trying to find out what happened eight years ago when they allegedly passed a letter on, there is plenty of scope to accuse them of being at fault (I’m not saying they are not) and also to claim that the letter was
lost or destroyed. It’s going to be hard to prove one way or the other

News report I just heard on the radio (BBC) said that the Met are now carrying out an internal investigation to find out exactly what was done. Doesn't sound as if they have confirmed they received any letter yet

I agree. In the Oprah interview, when Meghan talked of her suicide ideation when pregnant, it appeared that Harry was unable to find her help. (Some husband) Neither of them referenced calling her Mum or even asking her for advice.

The Met will have to confirm:

• the existence of a letter
• the date
• who passed the letter to Meg on what date
• What info she was given about potential for an investigation
• who gave her assurances that it was being investigated
• who told her she wasn’t to talk about it because it could jeopardise the non existent investigation.

It might take weeks, but I’m pretty sure Megs story will start falling apart.

His private parties featured 13 year old girls. We know Mountbatten abused children every way possible. We know Prince Charles made Savile untouchable. He shielded the pedophile Bishop Peter Ball. We know they tried to ignore Andrew/Epstein. Princess Anne disappointed by standing by Andrew, thinking it was a fuss about nothing, saying that Charles went too far and offering him accommodation. But they have all been brought up around pedophilia. But let's put Meghan and now Doria on trial.

Well this thread has gone from H&M to Doria, her registration, her letting Thomas have partial residency, her not reporting anything. Her and Meghan's MH. Like we all don't know how secretive and manipulative child abusers can be and that men who abuse children, don't always abuse their own children. It's like all reasoning has left the building.

I didn’t make myself clear in my last post. What I meant was, I don’t think the letter still exists

Don't most threads meander? There's no conspiracy! You're posting what you like!