Do Britons feel Queen Elizabeth II kept her 1947 promise?

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Do Britons believe that Queen Elizabeth II upheld the promise she made to them in 1947 to serve them for her whole life?

If so, are they grateful to her?

Yes, my thought too.
Reads in the same weird way.

No, because "Britons" are not a hive mind. There is no collective opinion.

Sounds like it. I wonder if it's trawling for an article.

Excellent points

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The ‘service’ notion is not integral to having a monarch .
Monarchs were just ‘there’ .

But the population became restless - in fact it’s nearly always been restless - and suddenly the charity wheeze came along ( there is no evidence that they help charities at all)
That was Victoria
With Elizabeth the ‘what to do ? The people are asking questions again!’ Solution was the walk about .
That stopped working . I note Elizabeth didn’t walk about with an open mouthed, tongue hanging out, totally false grin. They have to keep upping it you see . Thats their photo op face . They don’t smile at Trump and Cruise like that do they ?
Now it’s insta reels and ‘we are just like you - but don’t dare ask a question ‘
Desperate.

Yes, I'm inclined to agree. I think it's long been a disgrace that, where other countries' national anthems pay homage to the country itself and the people, ours is just blowing smoke up the fundament of one phenomenally privileged person.

It's not even that we're doing so in response to widespread conviction of that person's true greatness; as if a king or queen died young and suddenly, and their baby thus became the next one, we would be immediately expected to sing it about that baby too!

It is utterly outrageous and 100% non-democratic that, if a (peaceful) 'Abolish the monarchy and become a republic' political party arose and their candidates were voted in to Parliament, one of their very first obligatory acts would be to be forced to lie by swearing their allegiance to the monarch and pledge to support their continued elevated position.

Yes I do. And I couldn’t care less if they’re excepted from a couple of laws. So many people just take and take without giving so I’m not exactly bothered if somebody who has devoted their entire life to tedious public duties gets something in return.

We have a huge lack of standards an resilience in society now and she was a very graceful example of both.

Shoulda coulda woulda

Elizabeth was useless . The role of monarch as constitutional buffer was shown to be such . Those are the facts .

Then you’ve misunderstood it. It’s not praising the Monarch, it’s symbolic of the lasting resilience of our constitution. ‘Victorious, happy, glorious’ not exactly words for a person but to describe a nation.

And when the latest lot come along and make it clear they will NOT be doing the walkabouts and ribbon cutting - how do you feel about that ?
BTW they are ‘taking’ more than ever . Half a billion a year and for what ?

I woukd go as far as saying that being in a position to declare that you will serve (i.e. rule over) the country for your whole life is an automatically arrogant stance that is hard-baked in to the role.

Can you imagine if an elected leader said that? No indication of 'as long as you want me and I have your trust and mandate', but 'until I drop dead'? Because, let's face it, pledging to "serve the country for my whole life" is basically another way of saying "It's mine now and I will refuse to ever let you or anybody else take my privilege away from me".

What a weird question. Britons don't all think with one mind.

The Sovereign Grant is 140 million.

For context, my local authority spends 30 million a year on private taxis to take kids to school.

🤷‍♀️ bloody bargain for the cultural, historical and political stability it offers.

I am a little confused by this post. She was an example of a lack of standards? I think that some of that is true.

You know exactly what I meant, you’re pretending not to. You’re not confused at all.

It’s not clear 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you don’t want to clarify though fair enough

Polls consistently show that Queen Elizabeth was very popular amongst the British public. This thread isn't representative of general opinion. YouGov surveys indicate that 85% felt she had done a good job at the time of death. If you don't agree then you're in the minority.

Personally I think she did a great job. All these weird comparisons to fire fighters and nurses are strange. Lots of people would much rather be an anonymous person in those kinds of roles than a public figure with all that this entails. I would utterly detest that my loved ones and particularly my children would automatically become targets for the worst kinds of people. I would hate to be scrutinised and picked apart. The expectation that I will be perfect and accept criticism and judgement without biting back would be incredibly difficult. Even some of the posts on this thread are quite personal and unkind. Everyone feels that they have right to comment because of who you are. Just awful!

Yes, they get money and status but they sacrifice peace and privacy. I'm sure there are some that would take this trade off but the Royal Family is mostly selected through an accident of birth so the Queen might well be like me and have preferred a different life.

The sovereign grant is just a fraction of what the Windsors cost .

Yes she did, incredible woman. I feel we've lost that stoic, loyal, hard working attitude as a country. It died off with her generation imo

You do not know what the public think.

We have never been asked .
And no a yougov poll is not a legitimate argument

Why not ask us properly ? Dont panic - not binding - just ask us. Why don’t they ?

What else is spent then?

I don’t actually really care. We spend billions on feckless people who offer nothing. We could sink the money into ‘the homeless’, they will trash their accommodation, turn it into a drug den and the money may as well have been jettisoned into space for all the good it will have done 🤷‍♀️

I think this is somewhat outdated

“Just over half of people in the UK still want the Royal Family to remain in place, with 55 per cent supporting it. However, this represents an 11 per cent drop since 2023 - and is the lowest level in 33 year, since Ipsos began polling on the royals”

I think Andrew has tainted them tbh

What do you expect? A referendum on whether Queen Elizabeth did a good job? What's the point in that? Referendums cost around £100 million. Even if you wanted a non binding referendum on becoming a republic then this would be a super expensive opinion poll unless it did lead to change.

There isn't a large body of evidence to suggest the majority of the UK population wants to get rid of the monarchy, in fact all respected polls are suggesting the opposite. I don't really understand why we would run a referendum just to double check this. I would prefer to spend this money on a Brexit referendum where opinion polls do suggest that there has been a shift and rejoining might be the popular view now.

18% in the same poll didn't have a view and only 27% wanted a republic. This doesn't warrant spending £100 million on a referendum to abolish them. Less than a third state this is what they want.