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Ham pr disasters 42! …complicit or coincidence? 🦢

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jeffgoldblum · 21/09/2026 15:17

Still interested, still not bored!

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 08:47

If Spencer has another historical book in the pipeline, critics are going to be ALL over it with the fact checking.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:48

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 08:47

If Spencer has another historical book in the pipeline, critics are going to be ALL over it with the fact checking.

Now I'm questioning the one I've got on the English Civil War.

fridaynightzzz · 23/09/2026 08:49

It’s been said on Twitter that the new bookmark is photographed on a travel book about Paris…

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:51

fridaynightzzz · 23/09/2026 08:49

It’s been said on Twitter that the new bookmark is photographed on a travel book about Paris…

Meghan is selling bookmarks? Is this a departure from flower sprinkles and fruit spread?
How interesting that it's a book about Paris. I'm surprised she didn't use the swan emoji again.

TheDuchessofTwatt · 23/09/2026 08:53

WilliamsExtraSausage · 23/09/2026 07:02

Here’s the full video. The security guy - recognise him? - is batting people away.

They are walking along at a hell of a pace. I hope the guy has a good cardio record.

x.com/cristina_corujo/status/2102521288355156004/video/1?s=46

Is that female staff member the same one who was on the receiving end of a death stare from Meghan when she tapped Harry one the back at the hospital in Melbourne? I thought at the time it wouldn't be long before she joined the Sussex survivors club but if it's the same one she must have grit!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 08:56

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:48

Now I'm questioning the one I've got on the English Civil War.

I read The White Ship and he persistently refers to Edward the Confessor when the events taking place are 40 years before the papacy granted Edward that title. Now, I know that's a small verging on 'get a life' niggle - but it's also something very easily checkable - it took me two minutes. It did smack a bit of 'can't be bothered to check and no-one will notice anyway' writing.

Shame, because it's an otherwise decent read.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 09:00

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:48

Now I'm questioning the one I've got on the English Civil War.

OT but if you want books on the Civil War I highly recommend Jonathan Healey.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:03

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 09:00

OT but if you want books on the Civil War I highly recommend Jonathan Healey.

It's ok, thanks! I've got a shelf full, I studied it at uni and always retained an interest!
I think Spencer is a good writer, but perhaps "Swan Song" isn't his most accurate work.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:04

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 08:56

I read The White Ship and he persistently refers to Edward the Confessor when the events taking place are 40 years before the papacy granted Edward that title. Now, I know that's a small verging on 'get a life' niggle - but it's also something very easily checkable - it took me two minutes. It did smack a bit of 'can't be bothered to check and no-one will notice anyway' writing.

Shame, because it's an otherwise decent read.

It's interesting that you say that, because I did find a couple of inaccuracies in the CW book, which I put down to the use of source material (he's not particularly strong on that).

TheDuchessofTwatt · 23/09/2026 09:08

Totally off topic, sorry but I feel jokes are wasted on some of the other threads.
I had no idea Piers Morgan had a son called Spencer Morgan, can’t say I keep up with the children of celebs etc. Anyway he does and he’s cracked the joke of the week on X. (Further down the thread he suggests his name has something to do with Diana…🤷‍♀️🤔)

https://x.com/spencermorgan93/status/2102426532266332198?s=46

Ham pr disasters 42! …complicit or coincidence? 🦢
Ham pr disasters 42! …complicit or coincidence? 🦢
Fracle · 23/09/2026 09:10

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:45

Yes, I never realised just how similar Spencer is to Harry.
I suppose it's like Harry's book; not the objective truth, but "his truth".

Yes, I think a lot of people (me included) are now seeing the similarities between Spencer and Harry, and the alliance between them. The dubious moneygrubbing books, the resentment at not being top dog, the spite. "Two cheeks of the same arse," as a previous poster put it. I'd never thought about it before.

It's really not doing either of them any favours at all. In fact it's hard to say which comes off worse from being associated with the other.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:13

Fracle · 23/09/2026 09:10

Yes, I think a lot of people (me included) are now seeing the similarities between Spencer and Harry, and the alliance between them. The dubious moneygrubbing books, the resentment at not being top dog, the spite. "Two cheeks of the same arse," as a previous poster put it. I'd never thought about it before.

It's really not doing either of them any favours at all. In fact it's hard to say which comes off worse from being associated with the other.

Agreed. An alliance forged in the summer perhaps, when the HaMs were at Althorp? Revisiting and refueling festering grievances, with an eye to publicity and money making. No other considerations.
What a nasty, malicious, greedy pair.

Seasidewalker · 23/09/2026 09:15

@TheDuchessofTwatt that's hilarious! 🤣

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:16

TheDuchessofTwatt · 23/09/2026 09:08

Totally off topic, sorry but I feel jokes are wasted on some of the other threads.
I had no idea Piers Morgan had a son called Spencer Morgan, can’t say I keep up with the children of celebs etc. Anyway he does and he’s cracked the joke of the week on X. (Further down the thread he suggests his name has something to do with Diana…🤷‍♀️🤔)

https://x.com/spencermorgan93/status/2102426532266332198?s=46

Great sense of humour!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 09:16

the resentment at not being top dog

A friend and I were having this discussion last night. A Spencer ancestor of the current earl was a minister under Charles II and James II, and was instrumental in helping William of Orange to the throne and thus the establishment of a Protestant monarchy after 1688. IIRC Diana once said to Charles that if it wasn't for her family his wouldn't be on the throne, and we did speculate that perhaps the Spencers are somewhat resentful that Diana's marriage to Charles didn't put the Spencers on a footing with the monarchy in the way they expected.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:17

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/09/2026 09:16

the resentment at not being top dog

A friend and I were having this discussion last night. A Spencer ancestor of the current earl was a minister under Charles II and James II, and was instrumental in helping William of Orange to the throne and thus the establishment of a Protestant monarchy after 1688. IIRC Diana once said to Charles that if it wasn't for her family his wouldn't be on the throne, and we did speculate that perhaps the Spencers are somewhat resentful that Diana's marriage to Charles didn't put the Spencers on a footing with the monarchy in the way they expected.

An interesting thought!

binkie163 · 23/09/2026 09:20

Placcyboel · 23/09/2026 07:17

It seems quite unnecessary for the security guard to be pushing people in the video from NYC. Nobody seems to be noticing H. I would be bloody fucked off if I got a shove for that twat.

Lol and me. I remember at Burghley horse trials early 90's mark Phillips pushed my friend on the stairs to barge past her. I gave him a massive shove and he fell over, he went absolutely purple with rage, I glared at him and said very loudly 'manners of a pig' everyone turned round to look 😂😂 honestly twat men are a bloody nuisance.

smilesy · 23/09/2026 09:24

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 08:51

Meghan is selling bookmarks? Is this a departure from flower sprinkles and fruit spread?
How interesting that it's a book about Paris. I'm surprised she didn't use the swan emoji again.

One of her super fans will probably say it’s a French swan 😎

BunnyBunbunbun · 23/09/2026 09:25

When William ascends the throne, he will be both a Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Windsor-Mountbatten and a Spencer. So a Spencer will finally be on the throne.

Charles Spencer should be pleased by this, but I think he's blown it with his nephew, William. Everything Charles Spencer has been doing the past couple of weeks is the thing William most abhors.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:26

smilesy · 23/09/2026 09:24

One of her super fans will probably say it’s a French swan 😎

😂😂😂

AlexandraCarrington · 23/09/2026 09:29

we did speculate that perhaps the Spencers are somewhat resentful that Diana's marriage to Charles didn't put the Spencers on a footing with the monarchy in the way they expected.

Historically this was why it generally wasn't a good idea to marry one of your own subjects, especially if she had lots of relatives - Woodvilles, Boleyns, Seymours.

Starryfifty · 23/09/2026 09:29

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:13

Agreed. An alliance forged in the summer perhaps, when the HaMs were at Althorp? Revisiting and refueling festering grievances, with an eye to publicity and money making. No other considerations.
What a nasty, malicious, greedy pair.

Absolutely. All very clear now. A vile trio (Meg included). I really hope this blows up in their faces and they are exposed for their grubbiness. Diana documentary is last throw of the dice for HAM. Hopefully it will sink. Assume it will with Meg's obnoxious narration

jeffgoldblum · 23/09/2026 09:31

PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:03

It's ok, thanks! I've got a shelf full, I studied it at uni and always retained an interest!
I think Spencer is a good writer, but perhaps "Swan Song" isn't his most accurate work.

According to Neil Sean ( 🤔🤷‍♀️) his books are usually published by another house , but this one is penguin ! , and further gossip …he states that a source there ( penguin) has mentioned that Spencer read all Harry’s drafts of spare before they were published……could be crap …..could be true….

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PleasantGreenPorcupine · 23/09/2026 09:31

He should have married Sheila Ferguson of the Three Degrees. Clever, sassy, beautiful, intelligent....

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · 23/09/2026 09:32

The school should not be hosting H. Neither should any other public services.

To do so is a political (maybe small p but I actually think more capital P) statement and therefore inappropriate to foist on children and as a use for public services and facilities.

Putting aside the appropriateness of Invictus itself in schools, which has been discussed previously, H is a pseudo political figure who is actively trying to destabilise the monarchy and in doing so destabilise our country.

He is likely too thick to appreciate this but irrespective of his insight this is what he is doing and therefore has no place in public life.

What he chooses to do in the corporate or celebrity world is another matter but he must be kept separate from the structure of the country.

H&M have most bizarrely become the pets of some of the left, and I speak as a life long labour voter who has watched in dismay as parts of the party have abandoned the people they were set up to represent in favour of whatever the islington chattering classes deem most fashionable at the time.

Having worked all my life in the NHS and Social Services I would say that the vast majority of staff are left leaning.

H&M are multimillionaires and certainly he has lived a life of enormous privilege so hardly obvious candidates for left wing sympathy but have managed to reverse all of that advantage by M’s claims of racism.

It only needs the person at the top of whichever place H&M want to use as a PR opportunity to think they are the right cause to support as “victims” and they are in.

This is misuse of a public position because it is not within the gift of whoever is in charge to use their workplace as a political platform to reflect their personal views.

M being mixed race is the cornerstone of the initial support H&M initially garnered in Megxit and remains the prop of any dregs they still retain.

It is an insult to those suffering genuine racism that they exploit this.

Without those baseless accusations against the RF the pair would have got nowhere.

Would Tyler Perry have given them a free house to stay in?
Would Oprah use her contacts for them and back them without a hint of challenge in that “interview”?
Would Netflix and Spotify have wanted them?

They would have just been a pair of ungrateful whiners, interesting perhaps for five minutes for shock value at their entitlement and treachery but that would have been it.

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