H and m pr disasters 34!

[jeffgoldblum]

A continuation of the exiting and entertaining shenanigans of ham….

Yes, I don't recommend it. Not great.

Diana was becoming a bit of a joke before she died, imo.
There'd been those incredibly crass pictures of her attending a heart operation, with tufts of blonde hair sticking out of her cap, and ten tons of eyeliner on (very appropriate and hygienic). Most photos showed her gazing at the camera in come-hither way (I think there's a more explicit term nowadays) while the professionals were intent on the op.
Of course the patient was a child. I don't think I'd want an intricate operation done on my child in a situation where doe-eyed Di and her photographers could have caused a distraction.
Julia Carling did a mock-up of it. Given Diana had broken up her marriage, it was understandable.
I knew a medical student at the Middlesex when Di did her AIDS visit. There was a three-line whip out to go and cheer and clap her. The photos and the help removing the stigma from HIV & AIDS patients were wonderful, thankfully.
The behaviour witnessed afterwards was not, apparently.
Then, that last summer, she called journalists out to the yacht Dodi and she were on so she could appear in her leopard cossie and tell them they'd get a big surprise from what she did next.
Childish and attention-seeking.
The apple Harry didn't fall far from the tree.

I agree that they seem to want to court publicity no
matter what and that it has kept them in the public eye. What I don’t agree with, however, is that their chaotic behaviour was designed to do this. I think they are just inherently chaotic. They could have utilised a strategy that highlighted genuine their genuine achievements that would have kept them ticking over in the public eye. The problem is, they haven’t achieved anything of substance. Also, even though they have gained publicity through notoriety if you like, it hasn’t obtained them any sustainable income stream. It has really only been publicity for publicity’s sake

The photos and the help removing the stigma from HIV & AIDS patients were wonderful, thankfully.

There is no doubt that by virtue of her public profile Diana did a lot to reduce the stigma of AIDS.

What I find frustrating is that most of what she did Princess Margaret was doing for years beforehand (including shaking hands with and hugging people), including being an involved patron for London Lighthouse, but gets no recognition for it.

That's interesting, I didn't know that about Princess Margaret.

Fair enough.😊

Interesting post!

you and me both, @Puzzledandpissedoff

@LaMarschallin I found this video about that surgery and it mentions the controversy.

It seems to me like she was genuine in her interest in children but also wanting to make herself look good.

Yes, he wants William to apologize while Richard Eden is completely against an apology.

Mark Dolan seems to think that HAM should get security because if they are attacked, the RF will never live it down.

I don’t know about Marc Dolans views, because I think, based on actual current public sentiment, if anything happened to the Sussex’s the responsibility would be laid firmly at Harry’s door, rather than the RF or the government. The majority of the public can see it appears he is trying to provoke the bear in an effort to manipulate RAVEC into capitulating to his desire for security.

If there is a genuine security risk, he and his family will get it.

If he believed there was a genuine security risk, I doubt he would be putting his kids and wife directly in the firing line (or at least,I would hope not)

They get security as appropriate. Plus it's nothing to do with the RF! Mark Dolan seems incredibly badly informed!
The same silly claims.

I think as lots of people on this thread have noted, none of these people have any more clue than someone who has read these threads and has a working short term memory.

Exactly zero of these 'experts' predicted the not-so-great return yet only days later they are all shamelessly flaunting their 'insider' knowledge about this or that unprovable rumour.

Even the print journalists who have some duty towards accuracy often just bang out some old shite lifted from here or reddit to make the deadline and keep the pot stirred.

They're just farming the clicks.

It would be hard to say she had no interest in children but, imo, her theatre "visit" was very ill-advised.

What was to be gained by her presence in the theatre? She could easily have watched the operation on video if she somehow thought her understanding could be increased seeing an operation.

The makeup, sticking out bits of fringe, the gazing at the cameras all suggest to me she wasn't exactly wholly paying attention to the child.
Why was there even a camera there?
Nobody gained anything from that.

And having a non-professional in theatre during a delicate operation could have been dangerous.
If something suddenly goes wrong during a procedure, professionals know their roles, where to stand, what to do...
A lay woman and a photographer would, at least, be no use and, at worst, get in the way or panic and actually be dangerous to the patient.

If she had such empathy, she didn't need to be up close to the blood, the incisions...I'm sure she could have gained understanding from listening to the surgeon and staff, visiting and helping to comfort the child before and after.
Didn't her empathy give her an idea that having a serious operation wasn't exactly a fun time for a child without having to witness their blood?

Hospital theatres may be called "theatres" but they're not there for people who want to go to see a show.

(Sorry - bit of a rant and not aimed at you. It's something I felt and feel strongly about)

Yes, but you'd think they'd at least be aware of the basics of security, the role of RAVEC, and the latest ruling!
Such ignorance.

Yes, the Royal Family PR very much exists, but plays the long game (decades, or possibly centuries!) and is unobtrusive.

The Sussex PR is active, obvious, and a bit shit. They are clearly quite obsessive about their own image, but contradictory in their messaging, as you say. The weird scattergun approach almost reminds me of someone like Katie Price, who uses (and is used by) media and social media to sell stories and products and stay in the public eye. The content barely matters, as long as it keeps on fuelling the fame juggernaut and generating income for somebody. (Obviously Katie Price is very much more downmarket, and has spiralled in recent years, but in her earlier career at least then she was clever and adept at this game - parlaying a pair of breast implants into a whole career and a surprising amount of money. HAM could have done much better for themselves if they'd been as savvy about their market as KP was about hers.)

Sorry, got a bit sidetracked there!

According to Tom Sykes , Meghan has been spotted in Soho Farmhouse .
What a surprise said no one !

I agree and having been on here long enough it’s plain to see that many pick a theme from these threads to spin into a column.

One Q I do have is the either ‘blind’ or very obscure site/publication that posted that Kate would have to suck it up and eat humble pie - can anyone remember where that was from - it was so random (pre relocation announcement) that it rang some bells on here….it might be worth looking again at that - the tone suggested the ‘source’ was SS maybe?

Going back to the security nonsense does Harry think they will get round the clock armed security for the rest of his life? The children to have armed police officers wherever they go 24/7? Meghan to get accompanied with Met security when she flies back to Montecito? the whole family accompanied by armed guards when they nip to Portugal for the weekend? I’m not sure how the RAVEC security details work but if this is case surely the security bill to the tax payer will be far more than what it costs for security for the Wales family and the King and Queen who at least are mainly on already secured royal estates? How could this level of security ever be justified to the tax payer for non working royals who are only serving themselves?

Was it Closer magazine? They seem the be a Sussex mouthpiece of choice at the moment.

Yes. Plus outriders with flashing lights.
Because they're so important!

Agree with you 💯.

It seems like many in the public did at the time, too. It was obviously a stunt and now a master study for HAM.

Pretty sure that’s exactly what he wants and expects.

Wonder how the Beckhams feel about Meghan becoming a regular at their 'canteen', as they apparently call it. There's a challenge for Markus the relationship manager - that's now his Soho
House job title...

Well remembered!

It was Closer magazine on 12th August, @LADDO.

https://archive.is/qtYcS