William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs

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I read this article in the DM which was originally brought to my attention by my MIL, who has a very keen interest in goings-on involving the RF.

'His absences have not gone unnoticed': Norman Baker asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up https://mol.im/a/15908021

I must admit I was surprised to learn that William has attended fewer events than KC and Anne over the last 3 years. I agree with the sentiment that he needs to step up to ease the burden on his father.

Excellent post @noonames

@ThatAvidViewer thank you for that post. That was exactly the situation with a close family member, after a cancer diagnosis and treatment they were then given 'preventative chemotherapy' in order to hopefully 'prevent' it from returning in the future.

What most people don’t have though is a band of trusted people who can pick up the slack at a moments notice, ensure that there is always food in the fridge, clean uniform ready, PE kit packed, back ups for school drop off , clubs and play dates, someone to supervise homework, they don’t have to spend time working out how to use annual leave to cover sickness or school,closures for teacher training or school holidays.

But a lot of people do have that, I know plenty of people with live in housekeepers, nanny’s, night nurses, drivers, gardeners., it’s not unusual at all in wealthy circles.

Unlike many parents W and C working life doesn’t involve shift work, they get taken to wherever they are going without worrying about motorway holdups, cancelled trains, they don’t have to pay for car parking, bus fares, train fares or worry that their ancient old banger will break down. And when they get to work they don’t have to work with Ian with the BO, Janet with the annoying laugh, they don’t have to fight for a hot seat work spot, listen to other people wittering on about the same thing they were wittering on about yesterday. They don’t have to do 1to 1 with their manager, worry about restructuring, produce reports to a deadline, find that once again some bastard has pinched their milk or yogurt from the fridge.

same again, a lot of people don’t recognise the working life you describe, just because that’s your experience doesn’t mean everyone experiences those circumstances.

Don’t be stupid. I said earlier I know some brilliant people who studied geography- it can be immensely challenging. But not all aspects and it was notorious for being attractive to a certain kind of privileged student.

and yep, I have degrees, a job and I pay my fair share of taxes. So none of your personal attacks mean much - they just show your ignorance

I didn’t say anything about your degrees or paying taxes. You must have me muddled up with someone else. I only made a little joke at your rather reductive (and spiteful) take on someone else’s degree switch/subject - which you couldn’t even get right in the first place, so I don’t think it’s me being stupid.

Such being the case, surely the criticism of William on this thread is entirely misplaced. If it’s the palace who decides what ‘public’ engagements each of them do and when, then he is not the one to blame.

I never understand the point of stating the bleeding obvious posts like this, of course they don’t have the life you describe, they are Royalty 🙄

Now now Evelyn, it’s always, always Williams fault, thems the rules.

This is no place for logic @EvelynBeatrice

But but but he went to the wrong church one Easter, the lazy bastard 🤪

And he wore the wrong shade of formal suit to the popes funeral!!! The villain!

Oh yes, fancy following the dress code to the letter, what an arsehole 😂

MNHQ really do need to bring back ‘😂’

Earthshot do more than award prizes and help more than just the award winners:
-Fellowship programme
-Launchpad
-Global alliance

They also have had a documented tangible impact on the planet.

https://earthshotprize.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Trustees-Annual-Report-and-Accounts-2024.pdf

It is also quite positive to employ people to the tune of £5M and feed £24M of donor money back into the economy. 10% to overhead and the rest to charitable programmes is a great track record.

Do you think gathering donations from the wealthy and dispersing back into the regular economy is a bad thing? They aren’t lining someone’s pockets with it.

How do you know exactly what procedure/treatment Catherine has had ?

I thought the only info in the public domain was that she'd had surgery, they hoped there was no cancer, they found cancer and then she needed to have have cancer treatment until it was announced that she was in remission.

Please correct me if I've missed something though.

No that’s pretty much it in a nutshell!!
however it’s very inconvenient for those who wish to criticise Catherine if she is actually unwell, so they need to minimise it to continue their behaviour.

I would advise you not to waste your typing. CathyorClaire does not engage in discussions about Earthshot in good faith.

In previous discussions about this issue, which involved links to Earthshot’s activities and audited annual accounts they acknowledged:

• the events happened.
• the accounts meet with compliance standards.
• the prizewinners receive support
• Earthshot is doing what it says it does i.e. basically networking and eliciting support from third parties.

The poster’s main quibble is that they think that the running costs of the project add up to so much more than the total of the core prizes at the heart of the project, and that in their opinion it’s impossible to say whether the expenditure incurred in relation to prize awards represents value for money.

Yet dispute all that, here we are back again with “Earthshot's most recent accounts show a spend of some £24m in the pursuit of awarding the headline £5m in prizes”…..

I agree with this.

Our newspapers treat the women who "marry in" in the most degrading way possible.

For me, that the males in the family sit behind that, hide behind it really, makes me lose all respect for them.

How do they hide behind it? I think HMQE set the tone of not lowering themselves to answer because it simply feeds the horde.

What do you suggest they do? Do you think Harry’s stamping his feet over coverage while he was dating Meghan helped tone things down?

TO add - we know they can do something about it.

We see that with Queen Camilla. They were brutal about her, but King Charles managed to call off the dogs.

He didn’t get to just demand better treatment from the papers - he and Camilla just approached it strategically and played the long game.

They employed an experienced PR person to curate positive stories and then apart from that she basically kept her head down for a couple of decades.

Harry and Meghan could have had the same result if they’d been prepared to wait it out a little and then be positive and upbeat in their interviews when emerging back into the public again.

It might have felt good to ‘get back’ at their families and complain about their perceived injustices but it was a terrible plan from a PR perspective.

ES is basically a networking platform using third party funds and resources to boost W's profile.

It's entirely reasonable to question the detail of its own spend 'back into the economy' when its highest profile event is a star studded glitzfest.

Some question why billionaires with a track record of donating millions to environmental causes put relatively modest amounts into the ES pot while Rihanna donated three times the entire prize fund on her own account.

This article gives a little more detail:

https://archive.ph/uyPBi

Serenster: Please don't answer for me, suggest I'm a bad actor or that others shouldn't engage.

It's rather bad form and I'm sure they can make their own minds up.

Absolutely

Raise the profile of the PoW? Don’t make me laugh. This man has enough resources to walk away into the sunset with us family and do whatever he wishes. He has not. I honor and respect them for their service.

I'm not sure what's funny.

W and the wider royal institution need every ounce of positive press they can muster in the wake of assorted royal scandals and mis-steps.

ES appears to be little more than a greenwashing vehicle buffing the public image of a royal hypocrite.

That really isn’t true .