PR disasters thread 18

[NormalAuntFanny]

Since I finished off the last one by accident here is a shiny new 999 posts which might last us until the end of the heatwave

There's a rival now on AppleTV Widow's Bay where the Sea Hag tries to kill Matthew Rhys by sitting on his face 😂

I had no idea what was going on there.
I'm very grateful for the explanation 😂

I’m both conflicted and confused!!🫤

Tom Sykes (I think it was) said the attack bot activity on SM has sky rocketed since the “announcement” of MM’s return. I reckon that’s what we are seeing.

Well I’m assuming if Charles has opened his finances to scrutiny, then ham cannot pretend they are getting anything from him!!

You're not sure why being called exotic is never taken as a compliment by black women because you haven't bothered educating yourself about perceptions of black women in western - and in particular American - society from the 1600s on, and the way those perceptions impacted the lives of those women and continue to impact them.

The experience of white women with dark hair or eyes or tanned skin is utterly irrelevant.

Please don’t presume to speak for all people of any gender, race, region, religion or origin.

It is not valid, and not helpful.

Huh, I just polled my two daughters, both African Americans, they said being called exotic would be a compliment. Sooo you might need to poll more African American women. Maybe seek out ones confident and secure in their looks and body, and what makes them unique and beautiful.

It's pretty obvious. New names, same script.

It's a pity because I enjoy discussions on monarchy that are factual and/or philosophical.

As I said elsewhere at this point I'm expecting a thread entitled William is smelly and dresses badly any day now.

William picks his nose and eats it.
William pushes grannies over.
William eats babies.
The possibilities are endless.

Just asked DD, who is black and British/South African. She pointed out that people (especially teenage girls!) can turn 'nice dress' into an insult if said in the right tone of voice and with an eye roll and snigger.

She doesn't think 'exotic' is problematic in itself, it is complimentary.

It can, like many words, be used in a sneering or sarcastic way to make it insulting.

Just one person's opinion, of course, but then 'black people' are not one homogeneous lump, are they?

I had a look at the other threads and I recognise the posting style of one particular one....but the negativity is odd. When you say 'they are bots' does it mean there is a real person tying the comments or is it some sort of AI program? I'm hopeless with technology.

Has the ghostly one returned in yet another guise?

It all has the ring of “William is alarmingly bald” doesn’t it. Similar flavour in these attacks, but at least the bald part is true I suppose.

Oh dear. That dig of Harry's didn't age well, did it?!

Probably a mix of AI and people.

It used to be what was called astroturfing - people who were paid by PR companies to create what looked like real opinions or a grass roots campaign.

Then with the internet you get all that online plus governments either stirring the pot - Russia and brexit is well documented for example, or just propagandising - China or Dubai springs to mind.

With AI/LLMs all that is easier so if you wished you could run dozens of different Mumsnet accounts and post/create dozens of threads.

So basically it will be mix of automated accounts, paid people and nutters!

During the Kate Hate, someone cleverer than me spotted that some new names were What3Words locations in Russia. Confirmed by MN not only deleting the posts, but zapping all trace of the posters.

Wow, I remember that. Definitely an agenda.

Oh yes! I had forgotten about that - it was a very good spot 🕵️

It really was! I do wonder how many others there were posting under other, not quite as obvious names.

I wonder if today’s announcement that KC3 won’t ever live at Buckingham Palace and it is effectively a public venue to host events - will get up H&Ms nose - if that’s where they were offered to stay?

I think Harry said he wouldn't stay there because of security fears because it's a recognisable building. Hard to believe he's that stupid, but yes, he actually said that.

I think what will get up their noses more is Willam’s income! They will be enraged! 😂 they have a dated and tired kitchen and William charges £500k for Charles to rent Highgrove and that’s just for starters!

Brilliant! 👍

That is hilarious. I remember when the stories about peppercorn rents for royals were in the papers a month or so ago, ‘sources close to’ Harry and Meghan ‘broke their silence’ to remind us that they ‘no longer have a Sovereign Grant to support them, nor access to multiple homes maintained at public expense, whether through rent-free arrangements or nominal rents. But what they do have is an independent and entirely self-funded life - one that nobody else has to pay for and nobody else needs to worry about funding… unlike the royal family.’ Bring them back immediately!

(There was no mention of how much rent Harry used to pay for Nottingham Cottage, which was apparently zero.)