PR Disasters Chapter 14

[Recklessismymiddlename]

Continuing the baton on from @Atlusvue

I'm sure some crew burst out crying at the sight of her. Just like being in the Sistine Chapel!

😂No, BIGGER, pleb!!!

🤣🤣🤣I bet she was livid.

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Also A didn’t come back to the UK from then on - H&M left him in Canada in the care of Jessica Mulroney when they came back for the Commonwealth ceremony just before lockdown.

They were staying in Vancouver which is nearly a 5 hours flight distance from Toronto, where Jessica lives. Also, why would Jessica, who has 3 kids of her own, want to take on the care of a baby? Absolutely no way Archie was staying with her. He was left with a nanny, just as he and his sister have been on many occasions since then.

agree, she's about 20 years too late

I can’t see MM agreeing for them to travel to the UK

I don't think that would be her call - they wouldn't be able to live over here without agreement but a holiday to see family would be in there best interests.

I agree. I hope that all the dysfunction somehow stops here and we dont have a few generations of dysfunctional children living out Harry and Meghans current mess

IIRC from one of the articles around the time of Megxit (I can't remember which) that this was one of the huge sticking points for the Met police regarding security and costs. They are not really dimensioned for long overseas stays without planning - when the Sussexes originally left for Canada it was for 7 weeks only to extend their stay indefinitely which required them to scramble, to cancel/rearrange RPO leave and provide accommodation for officers no longer able to go home.

However, the article went on to say that the Sussex family demanded 3 separate individual security details for Harry, Meghan and Archie who were sometimes in 3 different countries. This caused further issues and huge cost implications as the Met had not envisaged a situation where the baby was not with a parent, and where all 3 were in different countries. I guess, with benefit of hindsight it is clear that Meghan probably made solo trips to the US to set up the media deals while Harry was in the UK and Archie was in Canada. I always thought it strange that she didn't attend the Sandringham summit.

When H and M returned to the UK without Archie in January 2020, didn’t the RF get suspicious?

@Lunde I don't think she was invited to the Sandringham summit. Hence Camilla and Catherine's absence as well.

I fully agree with your overall point. It begs belief (if I've got that saying right!) that they didn't properly research or confirm their security position before they announced their exit.

However, being inconsiderate about security arrangements while they were in Canada is very much in their wheelhouse.

I just think they took everything for granted. They thought they could just transfer all their privileges to the USA, even though they were no longer working royals.

Beggars belief.

I think it's classic them to just assume they can have what they want because they want it.

'Soooo, H, you get all this stuff because you're royal, right?'

'Oh, yah, yah, for sure, Meg, yah.'

'So we can just go where we want, right? Take the secudee d'tail with us, right?'

'Oh sure, sure, Meg, Sure.'

'Cool.'

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is about the extent of the planning. Moehringer's masterly retelling is quite the creative wonder.

Even more it hasn't dawned on Harry that he is no longer a working royal, with all that implies. Instead he chooses to believe that he isn't getting his way over security because of the machinations of palace courtiers and his family. All of whom moved on a while ago and probably treat his latest accusations with an eyeroll as they travel to their next engagement.

I fully agree with your overall point. It begs belief (if I've got that saying right!) that they didn't properly research or confirm their security position before they announced their exit.

I'm sure they will have been told, in writing (possibly in triplicate), the implications of leaving. They may not have listened.

We do know that Harry says his lawyers didn't tell him possible outcomes of his Home Office trial (professional misconduct if actually true, so we assume not).

I'm sure I read that Harry had already been told there was a possibility he would lose security etc in December 2019 when he first told the RF he wanted to leave, but Harry just thought it was a scare tactic.

Yes, he tried to blame his legal team. Which is bullshit. He was absolutely advised that he could lose. I'd say he's an absolute nightmare to manage/ advise

They only said that to try and stop him leaving. They knew he was the most special person in the whole family so they were totally blackmailing him coz they didn't want him to leave

Harry thought the threat of losing security was to force them to stay ! The reality was probably very different.
I am still trying to understand how H and M thought M was the face of the RF !

I just don’t know how Harry didn’t understand that they simply could not ‘take their security detail’ with them -never mind having three!
Even I knew about & understood the rules around MET armed security and the agreements with other countries when the royals/Prime Minister goes abroad.
Is he really so stupid?
And surely Meghan must have realised early on he is stupid (despite her ‘he’s so smart’ comments) so would have checked rather than blindly believing everything he says??

I thought the RF and Harry learned at the Sandringham Summit the security implications of him moving abroad as a non working Royal.

The Queen subsequently lobbied the government to retain his security, contrary to what Harry claimed. The letter the Queen sent to the home office was unknown for years until his court case. They must have all been rightly pissed off with Harry’s lies, yet no one leaked that letter to counter Harry’s claims he lost his security at the behest of the RF.

And this is why I feel no guilt laughing about them on here.

He deserves what he gets.

Members of the aristocracy never parent alone. The kids are sent to boarding school then managed by staff when they're at home. Thats why so many of them are emotionally fucked up.

Maybe traditionally, but it certainly isn't true for all now.