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PR Disasters Chapter 14

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Recklessismymiddlename · Yesterday 10:43

Continuing the baton on from @Atlusvue

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MrsLeonFarrell · Today 08:06

IcedPurple · Today 07:44

Harry is on record as wanting to leave belt he even met Meghan.

I think he said he 'wanted to leave' in the way that a spoiled teenage boy says they are going to run away from home. It makes them feel good to say it, but deep down (not that there is any 'deep' with Harry) they know they've got it good. If Harry had wanted to 'leave' absolutely nothing and nobody was stopping him. As we saw with Mexit, the Palace response was basically 'We're sorry to see you go but have a great life.' And the Sussexes have been bitter about this ever since.

Yes I agree. There was nothing stopping him. I suspect though before he got married and the crowds went to his head, he knew that he wouldn't have the status out that he had in.

MyAutumnCrow · Today 09:07

Just going back to GB News and it doing a 180 degrees to become ‘pro Sussex’.

Are posters sure about this? I don’t watch GB News per se but I do catch a few of the channel’s YouTube clips on the Sussexes, and quite a few of the presenters criticise them a lot. Nana Akua, for example, I thought was renowned for it? (Is she still there?)

Is it that some presenters are pro, some are ignorant anti, some are indifferent? The usual media mix, by design or accident?

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 09:49

Harry is playing a dangerous game in trying to reconcile with his father. Meghan has succeeded in separating him from his family. She won't want him undoing all her good work to put him completely under her control. I imagine living with Meghan if you cross her would be very difficult indeed

Indeed, @IcedPurple, and as I've often said Harry's got himself into a very difficult position by throwing away every other means of support for his interests

Whether has realises this at all is unknowable, but the whole farce has some way to go yet and it'll certainly be worth watching

CrocsNotDocs · Today 10:00

If they split, I think Harry would immediately come slinking back to what he knows in the UK and get a little grace and favour cottage where he can live like a teenager, surrounded by beer cans, bean bags and bongs. He strikes me as the type of man who will see his wife and children as one blob, so when the wife goes, he will lose interest in the kids and drop them like hot potatoes. Lots of men do this- go from being involved fathers to completely wiping their kids when their relationship ends. The RF may pay off Meghan to allow the kids to come over from time to time to be managed by nannies, but Harry would never actively parent them. He wouldn’t know how and he wouldn’t be interested.

Thats my prediction but I really hope I’m wrong.

StormGazing · Today 10:25

IcedPurple · Today 07:44

Harry is on record as wanting to leave belt he even met Meghan.

I think he said he 'wanted to leave' in the way that a spoiled teenage boy says they are going to run away from home. It makes them feel good to say it, but deep down (not that there is any 'deep' with Harry) they know they've got it good. If Harry had wanted to 'leave' absolutely nothing and nobody was stopping him. As we saw with Mexit, the Palace response was basically 'We're sorry to see you go but have a great life.' And the Sussexes have been bitter about this ever since.

Harry wanted to just do Harry, but still have all the money and trappings … thick twit…. She’s got him shoved so far up her ass that he won’t be able to see what she’s really doing, when she dumps him he’ll quickly do a 180 and we’ll have a waterfall of bitterness coming, which of course will be from the newspapers he apparently hates, he’ll just looking in a different direction - joy!

jeffgoldblum · Today 10:40

Despite my opinion of Harry and Meghans behaviour, I truly don’t want these predictions to come true or even speculate about it, we must remember that there is two innocent children that will be hurt and upset by these things.

FenellaFeldman · Today 10:56

jeffgoldblum · Today 10:40

Despite my opinion of Harry and Meghans behaviour, I truly don’t want these predictions to come true or even speculate about it, we must remember that there is two innocent children that will be hurt and upset by these things.

Absolutely. I hope that they can find something to do which is positive and productive, and that their children can be part of a happy family unit.

Starryfifty · Today 11:13

CrocsNotDocs · Today 10:00

If they split, I think Harry would immediately come slinking back to what he knows in the UK and get a little grace and favour cottage where he can live like a teenager, surrounded by beer cans, bean bags and bongs. He strikes me as the type of man who will see his wife and children as one blob, so when the wife goes, he will lose interest in the kids and drop them like hot potatoes. Lots of men do this- go from being involved fathers to completely wiping their kids when their relationship ends. The RF may pay off Meghan to allow the kids to come over from time to time to be managed by nannies, but Harry would never actively parent them. He wouldn’t know how and he wouldn’t be interested.

Thats my prediction but I really hope I’m wrong.

This is how he will end up. He won't be capable of parenting alone even part time. Throw in a few puff pieces how he was deceived by the worlds most evil woman waaah waaah

Not2identifying · Today 11:40

I think Harry is an involved parent. Although we talk about their willingness to leave the kids, the fact is that he probably has far more time to spend with them than parents who have to work. He also wants to one-up his own dad, for a start. I think he'd want to always be able to tell himself that he's a good dad (that it would be an important part of his identity).

However, because of his personal weaknesses, I can imagine him being a fairweather parent and the kids are handed to a nanny when they get grumpy or throw a tantrum. He's been too weak to protect them on SM. His paranoia around security and how dangerous the UK is is likely warping their ability to get fully involved in the big wide world. The apparent lack of genuine friends and the definite lack of wider family will isolate them. All of these things have the potential to have a really detrimental impact on the kids.

In the event of a divorce, I think he'd have to stay in California for most of the year. I think he'd hate to have it look like he's abandoned his kids. I could imagine him having a house there but basically becoming a bit of a hermit. He'd surface now and again to moan about his lot in life.

Twisterr · Today 11:50

Starryfifty · Today 00:38

He's still enthralled. He has no depth/ intelligence. I do recall some word salad from him after she had Archie, basically puffing about how amazing she was giving birth or some nonsense 🙄 yes it is amazing but ffs.

I hate blaming the woman but meg is pure Machiavellian. She knew exactly how to work Harry. I hate to go down the rabbit hole but I do believe she planned this union

Agree with you 100% - she targeted him and love-bombed him. He is/was a stepping stone on her Hollywood A list destination. Same as her previous marriage and her previous long term boyfriend. She had been husband hunting for years.

She had zero plans to stay in the UK and actually arrived in the UK with her US agents, lawyers, PRs and financial advisers who were likely cooking up deals behind the scenes and whispering in her ear that much bigger riches await back across The Pond. They each would have a big slice of the pie as well. To be fair they pulled in some cracking deals. That’s why OW was visiting.

I don’t believe PH was bitter and jealous of W&K before MM arrived. He was on record saying he wanted a family like W - I believe he loved K and him wanting a family was aspirational rather than bitter or jealous. I believe MM came between them - classic narc move to alienate from family and friends and I also believed she incubated and accelerated any minor seeds in his mind of leaving - to suit her own aims…..but only after she had future faked him into the idea that she was keen to hit the ground running with the royaling role. I believe she deceived him and manipulated him with her damsel in distress shtick and he was easily riled and jumped into the white knight nonsense - we saw this within months of her being on the scene with the statement issued to the British media. His dim ego got off on that one.

I don’t

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · Today 11:59

Slightly off topic but is anyone else swooning slightly at William right now? My instagram is full of him at Aston Villa, he seems so happy and normal ❤️

FenellaFeldman · Today 12:07

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · Today 11:59

Slightly off topic but is anyone else swooning slightly at William right now? My instagram is full of him at Aston Villa, he seems so happy and normal ❤️

He seems well and happy, probably relief that his wife is in remission. He's also actively working on the homelessness plans and eco projects, so that's an excellent and worthwhile focus.
He's obviously got lots of interests and good friends.

DaisyDooley · Today 12:07

What do we think the reaction from Montecito will be when Peter Phillips marries?
We all know Harry will not be getting an invite -Peter and Zara have quite firmly shown where their loyalties lie. He will no doubt look at the pictures and see so many familiar faces-once loved- faces and feel utterly left behind.
His children will never be bridesmaid/page boy for their Windsor family.
I cannot see how he cannot feel angry with how things have turned out - but who will that anger be directed at as it won’t be himself will it!
One day, could be now, could be down the line, but one day he will realise that his life started to fall apart when he got together with Meghan -who by then will be the woman who is stopping him bringing his children to the UK.
What will the fallout be then?
https://archive.is/22ls0

Mylovelygreendress · Today 12:11

Well I can guarantee there will be some pap walk or similar on the wedding day . Remember the “ hike” on Coronation Day ?

DaisyDooley · Today 12:13

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · Today 11:59

Slightly off topic but is anyone else swooning slightly at William right now? My instagram is full of him at Aston Villa, he seems so happy and normal ❤️

I’m sure it will be driving Harry mad.
Catherine has just done a lovely solo tour of Italy, William is making huge decisions about the Duchy of Cornwall and behaving truly like a King in waiting -and then he looked so happy with those life long friends as his beloved Villa won.
When l saw he had put VTID (Villa Till l Die) on his posts I thought how utterly resonant that will be to every football fan with a ‘team’ . And we can all see quite clearly that he’s not just a tourist fan - he utterly adores football (the working man’s game) and is not worried about showing his deep passion for it and his team.
Something as simple as that is something so many people can identify with -rather than the endless entitled wingeing which comes from Harry.

Twisterr · Today 12:14

Not2identifying · Today 11:40

I think Harry is an involved parent. Although we talk about their willingness to leave the kids, the fact is that he probably has far more time to spend with them than parents who have to work. He also wants to one-up his own dad, for a start. I think he'd want to always be able to tell himself that he's a good dad (that it would be an important part of his identity).

However, because of his personal weaknesses, I can imagine him being a fairweather parent and the kids are handed to a nanny when they get grumpy or throw a tantrum. He's been too weak to protect them on SM. His paranoia around security and how dangerous the UK is is likely warping their ability to get fully involved in the big wide world. The apparent lack of genuine friends and the definite lack of wider family will isolate them. All of these things have the potential to have a really detrimental impact on the kids.

In the event of a divorce, I think he'd have to stay in California for most of the year. I think he'd hate to have it look like he's abandoned his kids. I could imagine him having a house there but basically becoming a bit of a hermit. He'd surface now and again to moan about his lot in life.

I agree and believe this was also a key part of MM drive to get back on to US soil after Archie was born (she took a big risk giving birth in the UK) as in the event of a divorce the DCs would have to stay where they were at the time without the agreement of the other parent. The Africa interview was when A was only a few months old and she had got PH to Canada for an extended stay by the Xmas . Also A didn’t come back to the UK from then on - H&M left him in Canada in the care of Jessica Mulroney when they came back for the Commonwealth ceremony just before lockdown.

I can’t see PH ‘moving’ to the UK without his DCs and in the event of a divorce I can’t see MM agreeing for them to travel to the UK. He’s basically stuck there for at least another 15 years until they grow up and leave home.

hatorgal · Today 12:14

I flew on BA last night - the current charity appeal features the King's Trust and Earthshot. William is seen smiling with attendees . Bet Meghan nearly choked 😂

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 12:14

jeffgoldblum · Today 10:40

Despite my opinion of Harry and Meghans behaviour, I truly don’t want these predictions to come true or even speculate about it, we must remember that there is two innocent children that will be hurt and upset by these things.

I agree. Actually I would be very surprised if they split. We always need to remember that 99% of what we think we know is PR, media spin and social media inventions. Very few "facts" mentioned are really fact.

FenellaFeldman · Today 12:16

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 12:14

I agree. Actually I would be very surprised if they split. We always need to remember that 99% of what we think we know is PR, media spin and social media inventions. Very few "facts" mentioned are really fact.

I think they're probably quite we suited, I just wish they'd engage in and work with some effective counselling, so that they can live in a more positive way. Let go of the bitterness and rancour.

Starryfifty · Today 12:21

He won't leave her. She'll leave him. I'd well believe she's seeking out some ageing billionaire.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 12:47

Starryfifty · Today 12:21

He won't leave her. She'll leave him. I'd well believe she's seeking out some ageing billionaire.

She is heading towards 50 with a ton of baggage and a reputation for bullying and lying . Can’t see any billionaire being interested !

jeffgoldblum · Today 12:50

hatorgal · Today 12:14

I flew on BA last night - the current charity appeal features the King's Trust and Earthshot. William is seen smiling with attendees . Bet Meghan nearly choked 😂

Oh dear ! Perhaps we now know why Meghan had to self soothe with her set up ba card!

Indianrollerbird · Today 12:56

jeffgoldblum · Today 12:50

Oh dear ! Perhaps we now know why Meghan had to self soothe with her set up ba card!

I'm only surprised all the passengers didn't do a whip round for Archewell, rather than donate their leftover currency to the evil RF charities....and then everyone on the plane clapped!

jeffgoldblum · Today 13:01

Indianrollerbird · Today 12:56

I'm only surprised all the passengers didn't do a whip round for Archewell, rather than donate their leftover currency to the evil RF charities....and then everyone on the plane clapped!

I imagine there was a lot of kneeling and doffed hats too , that we have not heard about yet!

MyAutumnCrow · Today 13:01

hatorgal · Today 12:14

I flew on BA last night - the current charity appeal features the King's Trust and Earthshot. William is seen smiling with attendees . Bet Meghan nearly choked 😂

Maybe that's when she folded a piece of A4 paper in half and got the crew to sign some names on it. Any names. She wasn't being fussy. Just names, now, c'mon, hey you, sign it again but bigger this time ...

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