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PR Disasters chapter 12

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AtIusvue · 13/05/2026 11:46

Meg n Harry giving us plenty to talk about as usual…..

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JSMill · 17/05/2026 07:00

noonames · 16/05/2026 22:45

It’s quite sad in a way isn’t it - the PoW with the RF behind her and everything it brings in terms of wardrobe, stylists, hair and make up, planning and strategy, security, PR, logistics, fashion designers queuing up to work with her, all the preparation that goes into a foreign trip like that and the support on offer. And poor Meghan with none of that, no stylist, no designers on speed dial, no staff, taking her own amateurish photos, wearing creased clothes that don’t fit and making one mistake after another. Of course she’s never going to ‘win’. The PoW is going to be queen. She’s tall with the kind of figure that looks great in couture. She is good at doing the royal appearances. She’s authentic, people really like her. She seems to be popular within the RF and has her own close family too. She seems to have a happy and supportive marriage to a man who has power, influence and respect worldwide. She will never have to worry about money. Worst of all, she has no reason to give a shit about anything that Meghan does, Meghan has no relevance in her life and the idea that they are in competition is kind of ridiculous really - to everyone apart from Meghan anyway. The side by side of the lilac outfits, I mean why would she open herself up to that 🤦‍♀️

Nobody forced M into a competition with her SIL. She left the UK and the RF over six years ago. It’s her choice. Honestly I think it was a blessing for the Wales’ family that she left.

StrawberryWasp · 17/05/2026 07:00

corblimeygvnr · 17/05/2026 04:01

I would be telling Harry I wasn't having a shitty old wardrobe like this and would be having a sleek modern walk in one for all my white and beige clothes.

This is so obviously what she'd really want.

I've watched enough Selling Sunset to know that in LA unless you have his and hers walk in dressing rooms fully fitted and the size of a small uk house, you are a big failure 🤣

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 17/05/2026 07:02

I wonder if Meghan is over-fond of a glass of wine or six. The things she puts online are so odd, badly judged, and a bit unhinged.

I don't believe for a moment it is a harmonious household. I imagine there must be rows about how the kids are being used, given how Harry has harped on for years about his negative experiences as a child. I wonder if he says no and she just does it anyway to piss him off.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 17/05/2026 07:03

JSMill · 17/05/2026 07:00

Nobody forced M into a competition with her SIL. She left the UK and the RF over six years ago. It’s her choice. Honestly I think it was a blessing for the Wales’ family that she left.

Yes, I wouldn't want that malignant creature anywhere near my children.

StrawberryWasp · 17/05/2026 07:04

The more you see of their house. The more you understand why With Love Meghan wasn't filmed there.
It's not her style, or the brand she wants to project at all.

They did say they bought it for the garden. Which is beautiful. But she's also selling herself as talented at creating beautiful interiors, so why isn't she creating the home she'd want?

Lazingsundayafternoon · 17/05/2026 07:18

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 17/05/2026 07:02

I wonder if Meghan is over-fond of a glass of wine or six. The things she puts online are so odd, badly judged, and a bit unhinged.

I don't believe for a moment it is a harmonious household. I imagine there must be rows about how the kids are being used, given how Harry has harped on for years about his negative experiences as a child. I wonder if he says no and she just does it anyway to piss him off.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t aware of what she’s posting online . I can’t see him poring over her Instagram really.

Lazingsundayafternoon · 17/05/2026 07:19

StrawberryWasp · 17/05/2026 07:04

The more you see of their house. The more you understand why With Love Meghan wasn't filmed there.
It's not her style, or the brand she wants to project at all.

They did say they bought it for the garden. Which is beautiful. But she's also selling herself as talented at creating beautiful interiors, so why isn't she creating the home she'd want?

Because she thinks the RF should pay for it probably.

noonames · 17/05/2026 07:22

Noseyoldcow · 17/05/2026 00:35

I meant racism in Edward VII’s day. Poor old Munshi was disliked because not only did he have Victoria’s ear, he had the gall to be an Indian too.
Denying the Sussexes an apartment in Windsor Castle but giving them Frogmore Cottage instead could be read as offensive by them at least. Now, you and I would likely be delighted to be gifted Frogmore Cottage, whatever its history. But for a person who would later allege racism in today’s royal family - “there were conversations about how dark Archie’s skin would be” - the link with a despised brown skinned lowly servant might rankle a bit.

You think Meghan should have been offered somewhere that has only ever housed white people, otherwise it might be racist? Blimey. Even with the lies about Archie’s Prince status (that they said they didn’t want for him), she hasn’t gone that far 🥨

I wonder if there’s anything else - dare I say, more likely - that Meghan might have found disappointing about Frogmore. Or as Mrs Merton might say, what first attracted her to the 1000 room Windsor Castle, much bigger than her BIL’s home, and where the actual Queen lived?

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:23

noonames · 16/05/2026 22:45

It’s quite sad in a way isn’t it - the PoW with the RF behind her and everything it brings in terms of wardrobe, stylists, hair and make up, planning and strategy, security, PR, logistics, fashion designers queuing up to work with her, all the preparation that goes into a foreign trip like that and the support on offer. And poor Meghan with none of that, no stylist, no designers on speed dial, no staff, taking her own amateurish photos, wearing creased clothes that don’t fit and making one mistake after another. Of course she’s never going to ‘win’. The PoW is going to be queen. She’s tall with the kind of figure that looks great in couture. She is good at doing the royal appearances. She’s authentic, people really like her. She seems to be popular within the RF and has her own close family too. She seems to have a happy and supportive marriage to a man who has power, influence and respect worldwide. She will never have to worry about money. Worst of all, she has no reason to give a shit about anything that Meghan does, Meghan has no relevance in her life and the idea that they are in competition is kind of ridiculous really - to everyone apart from Meghan anyway. The side by side of the lilac outfits, I mean why would she open herself up to that 🤦‍♀️

It's bizarre to me.

Flouncing out of royal life in a huff, only to try to recreate a 5th rate version of royal life on the other side of the world. Why would you do that? As you say, it's a losing battle.

What she could and should have done was stay on good terms with the royals, appear at the glam events like Trooping, go to Balmoral in the summer and maybe Sandringham at Christmas. That way she could have retained the 'veneer' of royalty, maybe get an invite to the Washington state dinner, all without the restrictions of being a working royal. That would have given her a great USP for whatever commercial enterprise she wanted to set up, even without using her titles. She really could have had the best of both worlds. Now she's making herself a laughing stock in both.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 17/05/2026 07:24

jeffgoldblum · 16/05/2026 19:28

Surprise, surprise!!!

Serious question.

How does Kate always manage to look so together? This is a side view shot in the moment and yet her clothes look perfect.

On the other side, a staged photo and MM clothes looked wrinkled and wrong.

(Well I know how clothes look wrong, on me they never look like they do in the catalogue- but how does Kate do it?)

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 17/05/2026 07:28

Sorry @noonames has explained it well- although I think even with the support Kate has I would never look as polished!

Interesting comparison about all the staff Kate had and the lack of staff on the Australian tour for the Sussexs.
It must have been clear to them both how much things had changed from their official tour to their faux tour- I wonder if that is when Harry really realised what he had lost.

noonames · 17/05/2026 07:40

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:23

It's bizarre to me.

Flouncing out of royal life in a huff, only to try to recreate a 5th rate version of royal life on the other side of the world. Why would you do that? As you say, it's a losing battle.

What she could and should have done was stay on good terms with the royals, appear at the glam events like Trooping, go to Balmoral in the summer and maybe Sandringham at Christmas. That way she could have retained the 'veneer' of royalty, maybe get an invite to the Washington state dinner, all without the restrictions of being a working royal. That would have given her a great USP for whatever commercial enterprise she wanted to set up, even without using her titles. She really could have had the best of both worlds. Now she's making herself a laughing stock in both.

I agree - and I actually think she could have ‘won’ relatively easily - hanging out with the A list in the sunshine, seen at events that the PoW wouldn’t go to (eg Met gala / Cannes) and wearing much edgier and fashion forward outfits. If she’d picked a couple of causes and really stuck with them, maybe one international so there would be photos of her working for the Red Cross all over the world or whatever. She could have gotten into local politics maybe, been more of the activist she sees herself as but clearly isn’t. And she could have slowly built a sensible career with say a beauty brand instead of just thinking that she was amazing at everything and all the ensuing failures being someone else’s fault.

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:43

Lazingsundayafternoon · 16/05/2026 22:51

It makes me think of Cinderella for some reason. Her mother is going to the ball and Lilli is a faceless servant maid on her knees. It’s deeply uncomfortable.

That's exactly what it looks like.

Meghan is the star of the show, as ever. Her 4 year old daughter is an attendant kneeling at her feet. We don't even need to see her face. She's not a person in her own right.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 17/05/2026 07:44

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:43

That's exactly what it looks like.

Meghan is the star of the show, as ever. Her 4 year old daughter is an attendant kneeling at her feet. We don't even need to see her face. She's not a person in her own right.

It is a very awkward position. No child has chosen to sit there exactly like that- she has been placed. And that makes it uncomfortable.

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:47

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 17/05/2026 07:44

It is a very awkward position. No child has chosen to sit there exactly like that- she has been placed. And that makes it uncomfortable.

And what is she doing exactly? She looks like a shoe shine girl. Are we supposed to think she's helping Meghan do up her shoes? A 4 year old probably doesn't have the required manual dexterity, but aside from that, the pose is weird. You put shoes on when sitting down, not standing. And notice Meghan is entirely focussed on taking the selfie, not at all on her young daughter who she is about to leave yet again. Totally unnatural, contrived, and slightly perplexing, just like everything she does.

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:57

noonames · 17/05/2026 07:40

I agree - and I actually think she could have ‘won’ relatively easily - hanging out with the A list in the sunshine, seen at events that the PoW wouldn’t go to (eg Met gala / Cannes) and wearing much edgier and fashion forward outfits. If she’d picked a couple of causes and really stuck with them, maybe one international so there would be photos of her working for the Red Cross all over the world or whatever. She could have gotten into local politics maybe, been more of the activist she sees herself as but clearly isn’t. And she could have slowly built a sensible career with say a beauty brand instead of just thinking that she was amazing at everything and all the ensuing failures being someone else’s fault.

Look at the life Mike and Zara have. Appearances at the big family events, the occasional garden party, Christmas in Sandringham. And lots of lucrative sponsorship deals and glamorous events as well. Yes I know both have genuine sporting credentials but let's not pretend that her being the Queen's granddaughter hasn't massively helped their public profile and attractiveness to advertisers.

The Sussexes could have had that, and much more as they are way more famous, especially in America. All they needed to do was keep their resentments to themselves and behave respectfully in public. As you say, it would have been an easy 'win'. But not for them.

Lazingsundayafternoon · 17/05/2026 08:09

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:23

It's bizarre to me.

Flouncing out of royal life in a huff, only to try to recreate a 5th rate version of royal life on the other side of the world. Why would you do that? As you say, it's a losing battle.

What she could and should have done was stay on good terms with the royals, appear at the glam events like Trooping, go to Balmoral in the summer and maybe Sandringham at Christmas. That way she could have retained the 'veneer' of royalty, maybe get an invite to the Washington state dinner, all without the restrictions of being a working royal. That would have given her a great USP for whatever commercial enterprise she wanted to set up, even without using her titles. She really could have had the best of both worlds. Now she's making herself a laughing stock in both.

She just didn’t think it through. She was outraged at not being given what she thought she was owed just by being married to Harry. Not enough deference, not enough money, a house not big enough for her taste. Also she just cannot handle any sort of criticism, constructive or otherwise. That’s why she doesn’t take advice. Adulation is what she wants and expects at all times, regardless of ability or performance.

Recklessismymiddlename · 17/05/2026 08:21

@canklesmctacotits most interesting observations

Jellybelly80 · 17/05/2026 08:32

Regarding the Munshi, I’m pretty sure racism was involved, given the times, but I think it was also about jealousy. The Queen thought far more of the Munshi than she did of her own family, and, had John Brown not died before her, I suspect he would have been treated in much the same manner as the Munshi.

Jellybelly80 · 17/05/2026 08:35

HoldMyWine · 16/05/2026 23:11

Her shoes are fucking massive

If you think that’s massive you should see mine. I’m a UK size 10, USA size 12. Mind you not that you’d know looking at my feet, it’s quite easy to dress around leaving a larger footprint nowadays given how many specialised shops there now are.

Mylovelygreendress · 17/05/2026 08:37

IcedPurple · 17/05/2026 07:43

That's exactly what it looks like.

Meghan is the star of the show, as ever. Her 4 year old daughter is an attendant kneeling at her feet. We don't even need to see her face. She's not a person in her own right.

I don’t understand the outfit . Is she mocking Catherine ? Trying yet another ill- fitting look ? And why is Lilibet there ?

Baital · 17/05/2026 08:41

Noseyoldcow · 17/05/2026 00:35

I meant racism in Edward VII’s day. Poor old Munshi was disliked because not only did he have Victoria’s ear, he had the gall to be an Indian too.
Denying the Sussexes an apartment in Windsor Castle but giving them Frogmore Cottage instead could be read as offensive by them at least. Now, you and I would likely be delighted to be gifted Frogmore Cottage, whatever its history. But for a person who would later allege racism in today’s royal family - “there were conversations about how dark Archie’s skin would be” - the link with a despised brown skinned lowly servant might rankle a bit.

Edward and his siblings couldn't stand John Brown - a white Scot - either. Basically their mother prioritising a servant over Family.

ShamedBySiri · 17/05/2026 08:49

Are we sure it was Catherine Meghan was copying with the lilac housecoat?
No idea what film this was from but as has been noted on X there is an uncanny resemblance with Anne Hathaway.

PR Disasters chapter 12
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Thedom · 17/05/2026 08:51

Is this thread not showing up for others ? I have to search for it when I want to see it, it’s not showing in in the RF section and not on my watched threads ?

Edited - I just realized I had accidentally hidden it, which is clearly very effective, have never used that option before.

LondonRidge · 17/05/2026 08:53

Mylovelygreendress · 17/05/2026 08:37

I don’t understand the outfit . Is she mocking Catherine ? Trying yet another ill- fitting look ? And why is Lilibet there ?

You’re right maybe it is a “throwback” to what she was expected to wear when she did stuff in the UK… unless their PR have finally realised that the RF way of doing things actually works (see Harry cosplaying intelligent articles and speeches).

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