PR Disasters chapter 12

[AtIusvue]

Meg n Harry giving us plenty to talk about as usual…..

Hopefully she can laugh at her. Meghan's behaviour towards her seems increasingly weird and stalkerish though. Catherine is probably relieved she lives on a different continent!

But how can she not have noticed that nobody else thinks that? That nobody has ever said that she looked better, or that her event was more successful, or that she drew a bigger crowd. It feels like some sort of weird self-harm, where she keeps doing things that are obviously going to see her mocked and humiliated. And it's not necessary - basically nobody on earth is going to be better than Catherine at doing what Catherine does, because Catherine has the sense to make the best of her own talents rather than trying to ape anyone else. Plus she has an enormous team - and budget - to help!

I just don't understand that wardrobe photo. What are we meant to be admiring in it? Meghan is just a relatable working mum with her kid there while she gets dressed? Lili finally has her hair brushed and tied back? Meghan has a lot of clothes on hangers?

So we can see that she wears Armani.

She just so happened to have an Armani jacket at the front of that row of dull black clothes. And the label just so happened to be clearly visible.

She is unbelievably naff.

I find the photo really uncomfortable- I’m guessing Lili is supppsed to be helping with her shoes? But we can’t see any of that so it looks like she’s bowing down on her hands and knees.

I think the problem seems to be that H&M are in a competition with W&C and to some extent KC&C which the actual WRF haven't entered. So H&M are throwing everything at it like fireworks at a tank , a lot of sound and sparks but the opposition are just rolling on regardless.

Another in Basilisk's series of crap metaphors 😊

It’s quite sad in a way isn’t it - the PoW with the RF behind her and everything it brings in terms of wardrobe, stylists, hair and make up, planning and strategy, security, PR, logistics, fashion designers queuing up to work with her, all the preparation that goes into a foreign trip like that and the support on offer. And poor Meghan with none of that, no stylist, no designers on speed dial, no staff, taking her own amateurish photos, wearing creased clothes that don’t fit and making one mistake after another. Of course she’s never going to ‘win’. The PoW is going to be queen. She’s tall with the kind of figure that looks great in couture. She is good at doing the royal appearances. She’s authentic, people really like her. She seems to be popular within the RF and has her own close family too. She seems to have a happy and supportive marriage to a man who has power, influence and respect worldwide. She will never have to worry about money. Worst of all, she has no reason to give a shit about anything that Meghan does, Meghan has no relevance in her life and the idea that they are in competition is kind of ridiculous really - to everyone apart from Meghan anyway. The side by side of the lilac outfits, I mean why would she open herself up to that 🤦‍♀️

It makes me think of Cinderella for some reason. Her mother is going to the ball and Lilli is a faceless servant maid on her knees. It’s deeply uncomfortable.

Oh for the laugh emoji

That’s the question isn’t it? It’s like she’s lost sight of everything but this competition in her own head. She must be suffering from poor mental health to be doing this.

Her shoes are fucking massive

It’s a good point that Megs is competing with the POW in a competition the POW didn't ask to be in but, more importantly, has already won.

The POW has William, the backing of the RF, money, security, what seems like a happy extended family, global recognition, a place in the line of succession, popularity, beauty, grace, poise, intelligence and fantastic stylists.

Compare and contrast…

In the spirit of what humans say and what dogs hear

Meghan - 70s flake advert style instagram gazing longingly at jam and sitting on the kitchen top amongst stunt bread and butter and wistfully looking out to her beautiful garden full of seasonal produce - How very perfect is my life

MN - Is that fish knife what she used to scrape the butter off her Last Tango in Paris jeans?

😂 It really is so entertaining to see witty reposts to self indulgence and pomposity.

Obviously there are more serious issues which are also discussed - but sometimes the pair of them do set themselves up for ribbing.

I have often wondered who had the bright idea of awarding Harry the Earl of Dumbarton title. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that title, but I’ll bet they knew how Meghan would feel about it. And whose idea was Frogmore Cottage? Again, nothing wrong with it, but it was Victoria’s Munshi’s house at one point. Victoria adored him, the rest of the Royal household not so much, and when Victoria died, she was barely cold before Edward VII had him evicted from the house and packed off back to India. Methinks there definitely was more than a bit of racism going on back then, unconscious or otherwise. Meghan apparently had a yen to live in Windsor Castle itself, an idea which was rather above her station. Frogmore Cottage was surely a slap down?

Do you mean there was racism evident in Edward’s dislike and eviction of Karim or in giving Harry and Meghan a house that an Indian man had lived in 100+ years earlier?

I don’t think Frogmore Cottage was a slap down, they requested to live their themselves, though rumour has it Meghan thought she was getting Frogmore House, how true that is I don’t know but it wouldn’t surprise me! Prince Charles also offered to buy them a country estate which they refused and they were also offered the huge 21 roomed Apartment 1 at Kensington Palace which had undergone extensive refurbishment and was next door to William and Catherine, they refused that as well. It seems a dated 90’s faux Mediterranean McMansion is more to their taste.

I meant racism in Edward VII’s day. Poor old Munshi was disliked because not only did he have Victoria’s ear, he had the gall to be an Indian too.
Denying the Sussexes an apartment in Windsor Castle but giving them Frogmore Cottage instead could be read as offensive by them at least. Now, you and I would likely be delighted to be gifted Frogmore Cottage, whatever its history. But for a person who would later allege racism in today’s royal family - “there were conversations about how dark Archie’s skin would be” - the link with a despised brown skinned lowly servant might rankle a bit.

I don't think Frogmore Cottage was a slapdown at all - it was built for a Queen - Queen Charlotte in 1801 and exiled Russian royalty, such as Grand Duchess Xenia, Alexandrovna lived there in the 1920s.

The original plan was for Harry and Meghan to move into Apartment 1 Kensington Palace, next door to William and Kate - the Duke of Gloucester moved out so it could be renovated. But Harry and Meghan turned it down and wanted to live at Windsor instead. The Queen said no to Windsor Castle and they were offered Frogmore instead. I have read that they were also offered an additional country estate in Herefordshire but turned that down as well.

I do think that a big part of the problem was that Meghan has a Disney Princess idea about royal living and expected a huge mansion from the start - which was not the norm unless a country estate was required. She was scathing about Nottingham Cottage - yet William and Kate lived there longer than the Sussexes ever did and with children as well. Until this year the Wales family lived in 4 bed Adelaide cottage which I believe is smaller than Frogmore with its 5 beds + nursery.

I see no racism in QEII not wanting to share her home with her grandson's young family - nor offering them a home built for another Queen in 1801 and which had been a home to British and European royalty

You seem very focussed on just one of Frogmore's residents who lived there for 7 of its 225 years,

More Invictus ruminations ahead from me, bearing in mind that Birmingham City Council is ‘hung’ (No Overall Control or clear majority group); and Australia hasn’t renewed the Invictus grant and Invictus doesn’t seem to have a contingency plan:

As regards Birmingham City Council, I suspect that Invictus is on its own and will be treated like any other private event being held there, and charged full market rate for everything including council staff time. No freebies. The Labour MPs and Labour councillors won’t feel like publicly crossing swords over Harry, especially if the royal family remains uninvolved. Al Carns and Shabana Mahmood aren’t naive - they know this city council could go down the plug hole.

The new leader of the Labour group of councillors Nicky Brennan has now apparently confirmed to the BBC that they (the outgoing administration of Birmingham City Council) aren’t interested in any kind of kind power-sharing coalition and will be sitting back and taking stock. This means that Labour councillors can’t be pressured by Labour MPs into assisting Invictus with grants or payments in kind, because the Labour councillors aren’t in charge any more. The Greens and Independents won’t help Invictus given the IDF involvement. The Lib Dems refuse to work with Reform so there’s no majority administration possible there as such.

The only place for Invictus to go with the begging bowl remains sponsors - or the Government. But the Government already covered the bid money via Johnny Mercer (ex Tory MP) and Harry, and that was supposed to be the maximum amount from the taxpayer. It won’t stop Harry whining for it though; but I think even his republican pals in the Labour luvvie set may start to recoil from him now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyplryyrevo

Sorry about the essay 😄

Actually, I think she’s mocking - not Catherine necessarily (but maybe), but the people (press, public, whoever) who compare her to Catherine. Look at the smirk. I think this is like Melania Trump wearing that H&M jacket with “I just don’t care, do you” printed on the back during Trump’s first term, when she’d just got a massive drubbing for something in the press but couldn’t directly answer back. It’s an assertive, cynical, angry “you want a comparison? Here’s a comparison. Fuck you” to people she wishes would shut up (and leave her to grift in peace - ha). All the comparisons of Kate’s trip to Italy versus her appearance in Oz have clearly got to her. I kind of can’t blame her. It’s must be a lot. But this is one angry and unhinged response. It’s nasty. That lilac monstrosity will never be seen in public - when has she ever worn a dress/coat like this? That’s Kate’s signature look (was). Plus it’s hideous, even by Meghan’s standards. It’s a costume, acquired for this sole purpose. The woman is mental.

And I think drawing Princess Lilibet Diana into this is next level. Her own little princess, who they will never get their hands on. All hers and only hers, both together in that tiny intimate room, child attending to mother.

Meghan will never be free of the RF, and will never win. She will never have a peaceful life. I mean, I can understand preferring to live in a shabby McMansion rather than any RF property because at least it’s private and your comings/goings are kept private (should you think they’re being judged or tracked, which I guess Diana and Harry and therefor Meghan felt they were - which they probably were for various reasons but not the ones these delulus think). I too would rather be free and poor than rich but caged. (Other options are available ofc). But I think that even in California, even after she’s carried her husband and children thousands of miles away and even though she has never set foot in the U.K. since, she still feels stuck with her in laws. Well, she made a pact with the devil when she married Harry and until she’s rid of him totally - which will be never because of the children - she will never be rid of them. That family will be her defining feature - and she hates them. How pitiful and sad. She ran to them with cunning and with desperation thinking she could best them…and now has until the end of her days to dwell on that.

I've mentioned this on a few threads, but my mum was actually a lifestyle journalist in the 90s. Much to my relief, few on her works exist online - the ones that do are excruciating.

I absolutely loathe being posed by photographers to the extent that I didn't have a formal photographer at my own wedding.

And what she wrote about us just didn't relate to my experience of our home life.

And my mum was by no means a household name. An occasional broadsheet weekend papers article, some Country Living slots and a regular column elsewhere.

And it was still bloody awful.

My son isn't so much a hair of his head on Facebook.

I don’t think there was racism involved when the Munshi ws evicted from Frogmore cottage after the death of QV.
He was not trusted, he had a big drink problem, he was garrulous considered a dangerous loose cannon.
He was in possession of paperwork, letters and pictures which the RF were concerned he would sell. He had proved himself untrustworthy while Victoria was alive and her family had begged her to get rid of him.
They -esp the new King -did not like the level of power he had gained while Victoria was a dying woman.
Theres nothing to suggest racism.

i think it was posted upside down. It looks better if you turn your phone the other way.

I would be telling Harry I wasn't having a shitty old wardrobe like this and would be having a sleek modern walk in one for all my white and beige clothes.