AMW continuing his effort to end the monarchy part 4

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New thread. This is not ending

I also don’t think PM would wants details of his private life being aired ( or his wife’s)

Yes ! I have heard some rather interesting rumours from my Scottish mil!! 🤔

I still don’t think that it detracts from my main point and opinion though, that if he is going down, and AMW is found guilty, then AMW should go to prison also? Or at least it makes it harder for special exemptions to apply?

I don't think they should be linked.

I think the police and CPS should act appropriately, follow procedure as they would for any other person, charge AMW if there is sufficient evidence, and ensure a fair trial.
If AMW is found guilty of a crime after due process, he should serve the appropriate penalty.

If anything, I think there should be more factual, and less dramatic or politically motivated reporting any time there is an update on the story, so that there is more chance of a fair trial.

Of course I agree with this. I am not saying they should be linked either. I am saying that the law should be applied fairly to whoever is being prosecuted and appropriate sentences applied according to the evidence supplied and judgement found.

This did not happen in PB’s trial bc the RF intervened! Therefore it’s a legitimate question to ask whether this will happen again!

Of course it will happen again! AMW will not go to trial, not in a million years!

I find the relationship between PM/NS/SNP quite interesting.
A lot of skeletons there which would have been uncovered if he hadn’t pleaded guilty.

I think the police and CPS should act appropriately, follow procedure as they would for any other person, charge AMW if there is sufficient evidence, and ensure a fair trial.
If AMW is found guilty of a crime after due process, he should serve the appropriate penalty.

Agree and I think that will be the case. KC has already stated that he is ready to support any police investigation. However, if the FBI won’t provide a copy of the un redacted Epstein files that have been requested as part of the AMW investigation, then he may not be able to be held fully accountable and that won’t be the fault of senior members of the RF. There is also a good chance the media balls it up and inadvertently provide him with an ‘out’.

The cases are totally different yes but the relevant points are that in the PB case the RF allegedly were not above interfering in the law (so you have to wonder whether this will happen in AMW’s case) and the police got blamed for being incompetent and the judiciary was overruled (so you have to wonder whether they will be the fall guys once more?).

I am saying that the law should be applied fairly to whoever is being prosecuted and appropriate sentences applied according to the evidence supplied and judgement found.

We have found something to agree on.

Andrew Lownie has evidence that the BP legal and PR machines are working quite hard to ensure that the PPOs and other civil servants do not speak up though, while also making a public statement about them supporting the investigation.

I also think it’s likely that TVP won’t receive the fully redacted papers and let’s just say I think it would work in the interests of many involved parties if the press did screw up. The press aren’t going to let their cash cow be damaged so badly that it can no longer be milked.

If I had to guess I think he might admit to a minor separate financial charge for which he doesn’t have to go to prison to avoid a trial even taking place.

@Verityandsquab654 I’d say there was more chance of a seeing a flying pig than the UK receiving the unredacted files.

There is also a good chance the media balls it up and inadvertently provide him with an ‘out’.

This is one of my main concerns, as I've suggested above.

Another is that there obviously remain more powerful figures, on both sides of the Atlantic, for whom AMW is a helpful distraction.

Re the SNP stuff, I haven't followed it closely but can imagine it's interesting. The timing of today's hearing was also interesting.

Agreed!
especially as a vast amount has accidentally been destroyed!

I agree entirely.

The wriggle to get him off the hook is already afoot with the 'concerns for mental health' claims.

IMO he'll either be found to be unfit to stand trial or the allegations will somehow be deemed to be out of time.

He may have seen a holding cell up close and personal and had to drink his coffee machine beverage from a plastic cup but that will be the extent of it.

My honest opinion? Andrew is disgusting, undoubtedly. But I reckon he’s at the bottom of a very disturbing and disgusting food chain, where the Epstein stuff is concerned. He’s a useful distraction imo. Look at the useful U.K. idiot and not the USA etc ones, imo.

And if he sees the inside of a prison cell I’ll be amazed. Never going to happen.

Maybe I am too trusting but I actually think he will be charged .

Getting payments in cigarettes is maybe good preparation for jail time

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/paid-in-cigarettes-bizarre-psychic-detail-emerges-about-sarah-ferguson-amid-claims-disgraced-exduchess-used-princess-beatrices-credit-card-constantly/news-story/331377a19477a1ff742be5744a72ab1e

@Verityandsquab654 I see your point and agree.

Trooping of the Colour Republic protest - info here

Hmmm - note sure link worked! Trying again

www.republic.org.uk/trooping_the_colour_protest_2026?utm_campaign=trooping_the_colour_2026_launc&utm_medium=email&utm_source=republic

Trooping the Colour (not 'of').

The colour refers to the regimental colour which is trooped through the ranks.

Regimental colours were historically important as a rallying point for soldiers in battle, alongside drums and trumpets before more sophisticated communication devices were available.

The British Army explanation of Trooping the Colour is below.

Regimental flags of the British Army, historically described as ‘Colours,’ are consecrated and display insignia worn by soldiers of the respective unit along with the unit’s Honorary Distinctions or ‘Battle Honours’.
Historically the primary role of a regiment's Colour was to provide a rallying point on the battlefield, which was vitally important because without the forms of communications available to troops operating on a modern battlefield it was all too easy for soldiers to become disoriented and separated from their unit during conflict. For soldiers to recognise their Regiment's Colour, it was necessary to display it; this was accomplished by young officers marching between formed-up ranks of soldiers with the Colour held high, which is the origin of the term ‘trooping'. What is today a great ceremonial spectacle began life as a vital wartime parade.
The ceremony of Trooping the Colour is believed to have been performed first during the reign of King Charles II (1660 – 1685). In 1748, it was determined that this parade should mark the official birthday of the Sovereign, becoming an annual event when George III ascended the throne in 1760.

Some history of Colours National Army Museum

Thank you for the correction @bluegreygreen . I posted in haste and made an unintentional error

So republic are organising a protest at an event that also supports the military? Nice! 😬

Trooping the Colour (or 'of' it if you so fancy!) is to celebrate the sovereign's birthday. It is also known as King or Sovereign's Birthday Parade. Although it doesn't have to be on their birthday.

That is what I have always understood and being a free country there is nothing wrong with Republic organising a protest. Do you honestly think they will be protesting in amongst the horses and the Parade?! 😅. They will be shovelled away at a great distance I'm sure.
I mean, even the US can protest at the moment. They are organising a No Kings protest on old Trumpy's 80th birthday when he does his cage fighting in front the White House.

I haven't argued with the right to protest - I agree with it.

I was simply making sure that an event that is of great historical significance to the British Army is called by the correct name, and understood for what it is, not simply minimised as a 'military parade which celebrates Charles's 'official' birthday in June'.