PR Disasters part 11

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The ongoing dramas from Montecito courtesy of H&M.

I can’t see another thread but I made the same mistake last time …

Yes, he said something about "The princess she was perhaps born to be." M also claimed she was asked to curtail her shine/visability. (can't remember exactly how she worded it) I think on the netflix special she claimed she couldn't go to a restaurant with her friends or mum. H's vibe was basically "They were threatened by us because we are so much better at shaking hands than anyone else!"

Agree. Any differences should be pretty common sense and obvious, plus with all the help she had to get adjusted. She already had her own British contacts.

More on Birmingham (potentially pertaining to the hosting of Invictus):

Birmingham becomes an ‘ungovernable mess’ – and the whole country could follow

Reform jostling with five rival parties to run city will lead to paralysis that plays out on wider stage, experts warn

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/09/birmingham-ungovernable-mess-country-could-follow/

(It’s behind a paywall so I’ll see if I can archive it. But you get the gist, I imagine. A bit of a dramatic headline about the rest of country - but Birmingham really is in a mess.)

So what Harry’s plan? To bully and blackmail the King and some Labour politicians into stumping up ‘his’ money so the Ganes go ahead to his liking? To accuse them all of racism again? Seems to have worked for a ‘spiteful little c*nt’ (to quote a pp) so far.

I really hope people keep questioning the finances.

Here’s the archive link for that Telegraph article on ‘Birmingham ungovernable mess’ above ^^

https://archive.ph/Id705

Funny how Catherine manages to go out for coffees/lunches with her mum and sister as well as attending her children's' sporting events etc. Plus when William was posted to Wales in the RAF she was seen regularly doing the supermarket shop according to locals.

I think it is all part of a carefully constructed narrative that Meghan spins to a US audience who don't know the difference between a palace and a pawnbrokers that she (Meghan) thought she was getting the Hallmark Movie/Disney Princess castle but it (shock horror) turned out to be a "gilded cage" so awful - that it forced her to "flee to freedom"
... no one asked how she was on a visit to deprived parts of Africa - yet she turned down all offers of help from Sophie, equerries, palace staff
... she was only allowed to wear beige - yet has been seen in a lot of beige since she left the RF - surely some of the £1 million she spent on clothes was not beige?
.... she wasn't allowed her passport - so how did she manage international travel. Or does she mean that someone else carried it for her? Personally I think she stole borrowed this story from the Princess Charlene situation
.... "They" wouldn't get her MH support and she even went to HR - is she mistaking royalty for a US corporation? Firstly, the expensive private maternity package would have included MH support, secondly, Harry talked the other week about getting himself "pre fatherhood counselling" so must have had contacts, thirdly, Harry was patron of a MH charity and must have had people of speed dial and finally, the RF has access to expensive private healthcare.
... she was forced to live in a frat house (Nottingham Cottage designed by Christopher Wren) with junk furniture - most royals furnish their own homes Couldn't Harry have spend some of his £2 million a year allowance on it?
.... she wasn't paid - apart from the houses, staff, security, clothing, cars and allowance from FIL

I guess Oprah lapped all of the "Prince that ran from the palace" stories and are probably waiting for the divorce interviews.

.... "They" wouldn't get her MH support and she even went to HR - is she mistaking royalty for a US corporation?

I think this such a strange claim they made, isn’t it? I suspect it was made retrospectively in order to put a smokescreen round the goings-on that were happening at the time involving HR, unhappy staff, allegations of bullying against H&M, and the involvement of Jason Knauf.

The timing is awfully co-incidental.

I was looking at Knauf’s HR complaint dated to around late 2018:

“I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The treatment of [redacted] was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying [redacted] and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable behavior towards Y. I remain concerned that nothing will be done”.

M&H obviously had got wind of all this by January 2019.

H&M have possibly twisted it to her having HR contact because she was pregnant, suicidal and unsupported, and implying HR turned against her for nefarious reasons.

Thanks @MyAutumnCrow for that article. H's one year out visit is what two and bit months away? Hardly the best environment for him and I imagine the council having a great deal more to worry about just working out how to deal with local issues rather than H swooping in. I hope his visit encourages more people to investigate and spotlight the whole Invictus thing. I for one , whilst I would be sorry for the participants , wouldn't blame Birmingham at all if they decided it was too much of a financial risk and they had other priorities.

Well Catherine wasn't asked to cut her shine half - or some such - but Meghan was. I'm sure if she wanted to go out nobidy would have stopped her.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15804419/King-aide-mission-heal-William-Harry-rift.html

If I was William I would be absolutely livid if this is true, I hate it when the injured party is cast as the villain, why the fuck should William have anything to do with Harry again after the dreadful things he, Meghan and their squad have done to his family, I hope Wiliam puts him firmly in his place.

One source said: 'He thinks it's time to knock their heads together. The mood is, "He's not wrong".

One insider said: 'Theo believes that Harry and William need to be forced to shake hands and allow Charles to repair his relationship with Harry

Ahh it’s Charlotte G string, back fawning after her lost love 🙄🙄

There is nothing to stop Harry privately reuniting with his father. If William is not interested, who is this chap to think he should be "knocking (40 odd year old men's ) heads together?. Up to W I would say. H can privately repair his relationship with his father without W needing to be involved I would have thought.

An article from "movie snuggles"

Charles didn't choose to see Harry in the US did he? Or mention him? Or give him a pity invite to the King's Trust Party

It seems like a new version of the standard "olive branch" 🌿 article that appears 2-3 times a year - rinse and repeat! I think Harry is getting desperate now that Ingriftus is circling the drain.

I think G-String Snuggles needs to put the bong down.

It does doesn’t it @Lunde the last one of note was the meeting with palace aides and Meredith Maines iirc.

The source adds: 'I would be very surprised if Harry doesn't see Charles when he is in the UK.

If this is true then why does this Theo chap need to “knock William and Harry’s heads together” no one is stopping Charles meeting Harry, the article contradicts itself!

Considering William and his wife and his three photogenic children are the glue holding brand royal Family together I would be ASTONISHED if any senior member of staff believed William needs to be forced to reconcile with Harry.

It would also be incredibly off for a staff member to talk about knocking the heads together of two middle aged men, one of whom is about to be everyone’s boss like he’s a naughty child.

Charles has made it very clear in every speech he’s given since that first televised address after his mother died that he’s firmly supporting his heir and quite happy to wish his other son all the best overseas.

If Charles was interested in bringing Harry back into the fold he would have engineered a private meeting when he was in USA and it would above been briefed to the press that it had happened. Or when talking about the US UK links at the White House dinner would have dropped a tiny mention of his American grandchildren.

This is exactly what I want to say. It wouldn’t have mattered what the MIGS did, or the Queen or anybody in the RF. Meghan Markle knows best!!

No matter if she had kept her head down for a year and learnt the ropes (not that she could have possibility be in the shadows for a year) she can’t help herself, she is completely and utterly delusional!!

I suspect she has some severe personality disorder. I mean what did she think she was doing releasing that twerking when pregnant video? Can we even begin to guess how many of her PR pleaded with her not to do it???

But no! Meghan Markle knows best!

Oh Meghan really loved herself for doing that. She even brought it up with Emma Grede.

Speaking to Emma Grede in her Aspire Podcast, due to be released on Tuesday (17 June), Meghan said: “You have to be authentic. Did you see my Baby Mommadance? That was four years ago.
“So it's also a really great reminder that with all the noise or whatever people do, there's still a whole life - a real, authentic, fun life - that's happening behind the scenes.”

www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/meghan-markle-viral-twerking-labour-video-emma-grede-b2771148.html

It would also be incredibly off for a staff member to talk about knocking the heads together of two middle aged men, one of whom is about to be everyone’s boss like he’s a naughty child.

Yes, a 'former diplomat' who 'has held a string of senior international roles' thinks two people should be 'forced to shake hands'?

Something isn't adding up somewhere - probably in the 'sources'.

Also - I’ve just read through that article and it’s all based on one anonymous source claiming to know what the new deputy private secretary is saying and planning.

Part of the article praises his amazing diplomatic skills - you don’t have great diplomatic skills and experience if you widely let it be known you want to treat the heir to the throne like a naughty child and that you are claiming to rest your whole career success on making William and Harry reunite.

Threatening any sort "bashing heads together" in the same sentence as the Prince of Wales doesn't sound like a good strategy for career longevity - especially after 18 months in post.

It’s all pr crap from Harry as usual! , he hasn’t learned from last time!! 🙄 attacking the heir … he was full attack on his father when he was the heir.. completely forgetting that his grandmother the queen was old and ill … she died … and now he’s shifted to attacking William, his brother the heir… completely forgetting that his father the king is old and ill ….what a complete brainless idiot!! 🙄

So this Theo the apparently very inept diplomat and private secretary or whatever. Is he a Man In A Grey Suit?

I think that Harry knows how the RF and the press work to a far greater extent than you do.

I also think the narrative that Harry is some kind of a lump of clay in wicked Meghan's hands is extraordinary from a psychological pov.

The references to how showbiz/PR work in the US are presumably similarly poorly informed.

What gives you the impression that Harry has any in-depth understanding about how anything works?

You read Spare right? You saw his interviews?

I think my ten year old niece has a better grasp of PR / online media shenanigans than Harry does.

You understand than several of us on here have actual journalism and PR experience on both continents?

How can you consistently defend this man child?

It's going to be a very frosty Monday morning for him next week. I wonder if he is spending today on LinkedIn and brushing up his CV. Apparently Invictus is hiring.