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The royal family

PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 13:54

m.youtube.com/shorts/w2OCotY2T7Y

bluegreygreen · 05/05/2026 13:59

Serena needs to back away from artistes playing at being artists, IMO, and stop trying to dress her corporeal strength in such pretentious glittery ‘fashion’ wrappings.

Naomi Osaka manages the fashion 'spectacle' better.

Mylovelygreendress · 05/05/2026 14:07

BridgetJonesV2 · 05/05/2026 13:35

Serena was also an extremely poor sportswoman at times, throwing massive tantrums if she wasn't given her own way. The US Open (think it was 2018?) springs to mind, she behaved like a spoiled brat. I totally agree that she's rarely been said No to....

I remember that match . She was playing Naomi Osaka in the final and clearly expected to win . Naomi trounced her . Serena fell out with the umpire and it was all very unpleasant.

BasiliskStare · 05/05/2026 14:17

I don't know what it is about Meghan. The title and the wedding caterpaulted her to where she could ordinarily never have dreamt of being. Now, I can see being brought up in California and on the periphery of Hollywood and (and fair play to her getting a role in Suits is more than many aspiring actresses have done) means she just didn't "get" the WRF . But the sheer ineptitude of not taking advice , I think , was silly. Increasingly I think she thought H was her meal ticket. & it was . But I do think the pair of them have squandered it. To get back to @Atlusvue 's thread , I think the PR disasters started early doors. No family at the wedding. Quick Oprah , NF miniseries , Spare ( all of which are demonstrably far from the truth in parts ) to rake in huge amounts of money . Despite some positive press about them "escaping" they shut the door on the RF. The more I think about it the more the RF did the right thing by just publicly ignoring them. Napoleon Bonaparte "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". 😂

MildManneredRepublican · 05/05/2026 14:26

Btw, some You Tubers have picked up on Harry's grim behaviour on Bondi Beach (the touching of the volunteer surf lifesaver's buttocks without permission aka sexual touching or sexual assault).

Someone on this or another thread already mentioned Dan Wootton. Now there's also a channel called Proper Wiseguy on to it.

'This Guy Could Easily SUE Hypocrite Harry - Meghan Just Stood There and Said NOTHING' (03/May/2026)

Proper Wiseguy isn't everybody's style, but if you go into it bearing in mind it's all very tongue-in-cheek, it helps. Anyway, it's now starting to get 'out there' on YT so will spread.

Some of the comments are very interesting, in terms of H's alleged 'form' for This Kind Of Thing.

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Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 14:42

MildManneredRepublican · 05/05/2026 14:26

Btw, some You Tubers have picked up on Harry's grim behaviour on Bondi Beach (the touching of the volunteer surf lifesaver's buttocks without permission aka sexual touching or sexual assault).

Someone on this or another thread already mentioned Dan Wootton. Now there's also a channel called Proper Wiseguy on to it.

'This Guy Could Easily SUE Hypocrite Harry - Meghan Just Stood There and Said NOTHING' (03/May/2026)

Proper Wiseguy isn't everybody's style, but if you go into it bearing in mind it's all very tongue-in-cheek, it helps. Anyway, it's now starting to get 'out there' on YT so will spread.

Some of the comments are very interesting, in terms of H's alleged 'form' for This Kind Of Thing.

Why is MSM not covering this ?? I wonder if the RF are aware?

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/05/2026 14:56

ShamedBySiri · 05/05/2026 13:03

LOL - never heard of him either!
Anyway she seems to have won the beauty lottery as well as the money lottery.
Whether she is also a nice person or has any talent of her own I wouldn’t know.

Director, producer and show runner. Alias, Lost, Person of Interest, reboot Star Trek, The Force Awakens.

A lots if his work is scifi and fantasy so easy to miss if you don't like that kind of thing. He is really good at what he does.

His daughter is a singer and from her brief appearance on the Taylor Swift Era documentary seems lovely.

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/05/2026 14:57

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2026 10:22

I've always believed this was the result of the royal lawyers getting in on the act, MrsLF. Silly studio hosts might have allowed Scobie to spout his "I didn't know" nonsense but that won't have washed with better minds and they'll have probably terrified the insect

As for whether the Princess of Wales meant Catherine or Camilla it hardly seems to matter. Either way one of the husbands would be incensed and Harry's not really in a position where offending them further is likely to help him

I hope you are right about the lawyers. There is legitimate commentary and then there is public trolling of people you don't like. I feel he was the latter.

canklesmctacotits · 05/05/2026 14:59

Re education: I'm pretty sure Meghan is going to make sure Lilibet goes to the LA girls' private school that she didn't get into, and will be THAT mom who makes sure hers is the most sought after playdate and party etc. She'll avenge her own snubs and inferiorities through her daughter.

Gwyneth Paltrow went to a school in Manhattan that my own DD regularly competes against in one of her extra-curriculars. It's a girls' private school unlike any UK girls' private school I know of. The closest equivalent would be St Pauls, I guess, but the small size of the school, immense wealth, super-tiny and exclusive social circles and zero even lip-service paid to a broad and diverse student pool really has no comparator in the UK. Maybe Eton, for boys, but Eton isn't as universally revered amongst the types of families that would consider it as this school is. This school (and there are one or two for boys, and a couple of next-tier ones for girls) is off the charts for exclusivity, which is cultivated by faculty, staff, parents and, most distastefully of all, the girls. They live and breathe it, it's their raison d'etre. It's actually pretty gross to see in action. I can well and truly believe that GP is the original nepo baby mean girl as some parts of the press (which haven't been scrubbed by her PR) would have you believe. Apple doesn't seem to have fallen far from the tree, just grafted onto the SoCal scene.

That world and Apple Martin's path in LA is what MM will want for her DD. Hell will freeze over before she gives up having "arrived" (via her daughter) in the world she couldn't penetrate as a child herself, in favour of Marlborough or Wellington or wherever Charlotte is/will be at school. Such a school would also serve no purpose for MM. That world isn't relevant to Meghan or her aspirations for her daughter. And it's all about her, as we know. For all her global recognition and fame/infamy, Meghan Markle is actually extremely narrow-minded and uncomfortable outside the tiny world of monied Southern California, and a small group of ever-changing people in it (probably because she needs to be top dog at all times, difficult to do in a big arena).

The American and British school systems are also poles apart. Neither Harry nor Meghan strike me as having high academic aspirations for their children, and your DC have to have a fair level of aptitude to transition between the two. Mostly, though, the idea of sending your children off to school a 14hr+ journey away from LA, when you have perfectly decent and indeed coveted schools right there, where the world's uber-celebrities send their children with more in-built securidee infrastructure than you could shake a stick at, and where you can keep control over their every day social lives, is preposterous. If you're familiar with both worlds, it's obvious that school in the UK for Lilibet (other than maybe a year abroad to give her royal-adjacent kudos) just wouldn't happen. Especially not when her mom's on record talking about handing As Ever over to her as a thriving business!

Note nothing about Archie here because, frankly, the poor boy barely gets a look in as far as him mom goes and she's the only one posting on SM about her DC.

Choux · 05/05/2026 15:03

BasiliskStare · 05/05/2026 14:17

I don't know what it is about Meghan. The title and the wedding caterpaulted her to where she could ordinarily never have dreamt of being. Now, I can see being brought up in California and on the periphery of Hollywood and (and fair play to her getting a role in Suits is more than many aspiring actresses have done) means she just didn't "get" the WRF . But the sheer ineptitude of not taking advice , I think , was silly. Increasingly I think she thought H was her meal ticket. & it was . But I do think the pair of them have squandered it. To get back to @Atlusvue 's thread , I think the PR disasters started early doors. No family at the wedding. Quick Oprah , NF miniseries , Spare ( all of which are demonstrably far from the truth in parts ) to rake in huge amounts of money . Despite some positive press about them "escaping" they shut the door on the RF. The more I think about it the more the RF did the right thing by just publicly ignoring them. Napoleon Bonaparte "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". 😂

I think M thought marrying H was the beginning of her star’s ascendancy. It was only after the wedding she started to understand the most starry day she would have was her wedding day and that she was then expected to be a supporting cast member to the QEII show. Which would be followed by the Charles and Camilla show and then the William, Kate and Kids show. She would never have her own royal show as H was too far down the line of succession so she looked for a new half in, half out path.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/05/2026 15:04

Dan wasn’t impressed but when he mentioned it to Tom Sykes on his show Tom just laughed about it, for some reason some people think it’s amusing when a Prince smacks a person on their backside when they are at work, it’s totally unacceptable behaviour and it’s yet another example of his dreadful behaviour that he gets away with.

AtIusvue · 05/05/2026 15:07

canklesmctacotits · 05/05/2026 14:59

Re education: I'm pretty sure Meghan is going to make sure Lilibet goes to the LA girls' private school that she didn't get into, and will be THAT mom who makes sure hers is the most sought after playdate and party etc. She'll avenge her own snubs and inferiorities through her daughter.

Gwyneth Paltrow went to a school in Manhattan that my own DD regularly competes against in one of her extra-curriculars. It's a girls' private school unlike any UK girls' private school I know of. The closest equivalent would be St Pauls, I guess, but the small size of the school, immense wealth, super-tiny and exclusive social circles and zero even lip-service paid to a broad and diverse student pool really has no comparator in the UK. Maybe Eton, for boys, but Eton isn't as universally revered amongst the types of families that would consider it as this school is. This school (and there are one or two for boys, and a couple of next-tier ones for girls) is off the charts for exclusivity, which is cultivated by faculty, staff, parents and, most distastefully of all, the girls. They live and breathe it, it's their raison d'etre. It's actually pretty gross to see in action. I can well and truly believe that GP is the original nepo baby mean girl as some parts of the press (which haven't been scrubbed by her PR) would have you believe. Apple doesn't seem to have fallen far from the tree, just grafted onto the SoCal scene.

That world and Apple Martin's path in LA is what MM will want for her DD. Hell will freeze over before she gives up having "arrived" (via her daughter) in the world she couldn't penetrate as a child herself, in favour of Marlborough or Wellington or wherever Charlotte is/will be at school. Such a school would also serve no purpose for MM. That world isn't relevant to Meghan or her aspirations for her daughter. And it's all about her, as we know. For all her global recognition and fame/infamy, Meghan Markle is actually extremely narrow-minded and uncomfortable outside the tiny world of monied Southern California, and a small group of ever-changing people in it (probably because she needs to be top dog at all times, difficult to do in a big arena).

The American and British school systems are also poles apart. Neither Harry nor Meghan strike me as having high academic aspirations for their children, and your DC have to have a fair level of aptitude to transition between the two. Mostly, though, the idea of sending your children off to school a 14hr+ journey away from LA, when you have perfectly decent and indeed coveted schools right there, where the world's uber-celebrities send their children with more in-built securidee infrastructure than you could shake a stick at, and where you can keep control over their every day social lives, is preposterous. If you're familiar with both worlds, it's obvious that school in the UK for Lilibet (other than maybe a year abroad to give her royal-adjacent kudos) just wouldn't happen. Especially not when her mom's on record talking about handing As Ever over to her as a thriving business!

Note nothing about Archie here because, frankly, the poor boy barely gets a look in as far as him mom goes and she's the only one posting on SM about her DC.

That was really interesting.

I agree with Lilis childhood and schooling, will be crafted as the childhood Meg wanted. She wrote a poem the type of life and family she wanted when at school. Literally the picture perfect life with white picket fence and dogs. Think this is why the kids coming home to a house smelling of jam (as she has said in one interview) is about her feeling better about herself, because she was a latch key kid.

Also agree that Archie is an afterthought and she will have no grand ambitions for him, unlike Lili.

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AprilMizzel · 05/05/2026 15:12

Dan wasn’t impressed but when he mentioned it to Tom Sykes on his show Tom just laughed about it, for some reason some people think it’s amusing when a Prince smacks a person on their backside when they are at work

I think if it had been a woman the reaction would have been worse these days.

However only because since I think 70s woman had said this isn't on. Prior to that you may well have got the dimissive laugh and non reaction.

It's quitesurprising how much bad behavior gets ignored- it was clearly done due to power imbalance put the young man in his place.

Also agree that Archie is an afterthought and she will have no grand ambitions for him, unlike Lili.

I wonder if it's Archie age - as kids get older they have more of their own voice and some parents really struggle with that. Perhaps Lili at 4 is more complient at the moment.

It's odd because when either talk about the kids it's like they have no clue who they are or indeed any kid that age - like they are props rather than actual children with their own persoanalities. Hopefully that's them just being odd in interviews - but it does IMO stand out as odd.

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Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 15:27

AtIusvue · 05/05/2026 15:07

That was really interesting.

I agree with Lilis childhood and schooling, will be crafted as the childhood Meg wanted. She wrote a poem the type of life and family she wanted when at school. Literally the picture perfect life with white picket fence and dogs. Think this is why the kids coming home to a house smelling of jam (as she has said in one interview) is about her feeling better about herself, because she was a latch key kid.

Also agree that Archie is an afterthought and she will have no grand ambitions for him, unlike Lili.

Archie doesn't get a look in unless it's to elevate how important H and Meg are. He tells me I work too hard (Meg) cries when I get home (H) etc which is absolutely bizarre

AtIusvue · 05/05/2026 15:27

Most years, I don’t think it was a big deal Meg not going to the MET gala but this year….after the Paris fashion show PR nonsense, her launching on a fashion platform to sell clothing…when it seems like she’s pivoting again, this time towards fashion, then it’s glaring that she wasn’t there- especially when Serena and Venus could have put in a good word for her.

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Choux · 05/05/2026 15:30

Archie is turning 7 tomorrow. He’s already in school and is most likely at a local private elementary school and has been for a year or two.. I can only imagine the minefields created by his classmates wanting to invite him to birthday parties, play dates etc. No photos to be taken of him, NDAs galore, being accompanied to the parties by a nanny as M and H couldn’t possibly mix with other parents etc

AprilMizzel · 05/05/2026 15:33

I think they must be difficult to work with and that's tolerated in those circles as long as they are cash cows - they're not they have nothing to offer.

A lot of the platforms that appeared to support them - like comedy show - were more using them to have a pop at RF. RF on a high from Kings visit at moment in US - seems to have generally gone down very well - they have less use there as well.

Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 15:38

AprilMizzel · 05/05/2026 15:33

I think they must be difficult to work with and that's tolerated in those circles as long as they are cash cows - they're not they have nothing to offer.

A lot of the platforms that appeared to support them - like comedy show - were more using them to have a pop at RF. RF on a high from Kings visit at moment in US - seems to have generally gone down very well - they have less use there as well.

Can't remember who the podcaster is but he basically said if you have lots to offer, you can behave as badly as you like.

AtIusvue · 05/05/2026 15:39

Well I guess Archie’s bday Party must be this weekend, because she was in Chicago on Sat for a Baptism.

Hopefully they have some friends over. I don’t think Archie and Lili have ever been photographed with friends….even from behind. I’m sure her celebs friends would be happy, seen as most of them share images of their kids publicly anyway. For example, the kardashians show their kids, so does Serena and Emma greede.

It will be a pic of Archie alone.

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HoldMyWine · 05/05/2026 15:40

Yes from behind looking at something

StrawberryWasp · 05/05/2026 15:43

Are we really going to have 11 more years of looking at the back of their heads?

It's such a farce.

Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 15:53

StrawberryWasp · 05/05/2026 15:43

Are we really going to have 11 more years of looking at the back of their heads?

It's such a farce.

No. Full face will be very soon. It's the next money spinner

MildManneredRepublican · 05/05/2026 15:54

Scott Rouse showing up just how dim Harry is, from some of the other Australian footage. You don't even need to agree with Rouse's analysis in order to witness that H is giving a fuckwitted plug of his BetterUp MLM grift.

'Prince Harry’s Australia Speech: Compassion or Corporate Pitch?'

(Rouse is one of the Behaviour Panel.)

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IcedPurple · 05/05/2026 15:57

Starryfifty · 05/05/2026 15:53

No. Full face will be very soon. It's the next money spinner

It won't spin much money. Nobody is interested in those kids.

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