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The royal family

PR Disasters ….part 7

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AtIusvue · 03/04/2026 12:27

Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:00

Serenster · 11/04/2026 13:43

Also the fact it's being privately funded suggests, someone wants to take Harry down. Who? And why?

Well, knowing litigation funders, who are businesses and not an emotional lot, I’d suspect this just means they think this case has good enough prospects of success to be worth their investment…

I've seen suggestions it may be particular individuals backing SC or even her own family who are apparently very wealthy?

But all speculation.

Maybe you're right and it's all hard nosed clear eyed backers without personal beef ready to make money on a clear case with loads of evidence.

I hope you're right but I'm not quite as confident yet.

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 14:04

I was impressed with Sophie Chandauka’s composure during that trophy ‘ceremony’ where Meghan behaved oddly and quite rudely IMO; and very impressed with her composure during the Trevor Phillips interview on Sky last summer (along with trustee Ian Rawlinson, who was also very composed).

I think that’s worth acknowledging. It’s the presence she and he will bring to court, while Harry is prone to getting emotional and personal.

Harry will probably be advised to settle if the receipts are what I imagine them to be; but he won’t want to. He faces reputational risk either way. Check - but not yet checkmate.

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 14:08

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 13:41

You'd think so, but even boards can be irrational, and lawyers often give bad advice (as H knows.)

We don't know how much influence SC may have over the board or any other personal motivations influencing the board.

Also the fact it's being privately funded suggests, someone wants to take Harry down. Who? And why?

Well I can think of lots of whys 🤣, but whether it's legally robust...we'll see.

Maybe William is the secret source of funds 😉🤞😂
All a plot with Rawlinson to remove Harry’s charity and ultimately get him kicked out of others such as Invictus. He might not be able to remove Harry’s title (yet) but he can remove his ability to swagger around on faux Royal tours claiming to be doing charitable work.

(Just to say I’m not seriously speculating this, but I like the idea!).

Dishes served cold and all that.

Serenster · 11/04/2026 14:09

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 13:45

Yes, it would suggest they have seen some very damning evidence with which to skewer private citizens Harry & chum.

They will be looking for good prospects of success, not “slam dunk”. Cases with damming evidence generally don’t go to court as your lawyers will tell you bluntly that you are going to lose and should settle!

(Although your clients have to listen to you of course…which is not always a given!)

BeebeeBoyle · 11/04/2026 14:09

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 14:04

I was impressed with Sophie Chandauka’s composure during that trophy ‘ceremony’ where Meghan behaved oddly and quite rudely IMO; and very impressed with her composure during the Trevor Phillips interview on Sky last summer (along with trustee Ian Rawlinson, who was also very composed).

I think that’s worth acknowledging. It’s the presence she and he will bring to court, while Harry is prone to getting emotional and personal.

Harry will probably be advised to settle if the receipts are what I imagine them to be; but he won’t want to. He faces reputational risk either way. Check - but not yet checkmate.

Meghan behaved very rudely.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/04/2026 14:12

She shouldn’t have even been on the stage, the ceremony was absolutely nothing to do with her, she wasn’t even expected to turn up at the event, let alone crash the stage, it would be like SC’s husband suddenly making an unannounced appearance and shoving Harry around on the podium.

IdaGlossop · 11/04/2026 14:14

BeebeeBoyle · 11/04/2026 14:09

Meghan behaved very rudely.

Sophie excelled by remaining professional. Amazing self control, especially once we heard the back story - Meghan wasn't expected, she turned up with Serena Williams, she demanded an ice bucket, someone had to go and buy one. What fascinates me most about Harry and Meghan is that everything is a drama, although some of it is whipped up online, to be fair.

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:24

It was appalling optics for M&H. And now it's going to get played again and again.

So, what's the link between M being appallingly rude to SC publicly and SC suing H?

No link? Just a separate occurrence?
Or the basis for the bullying from H?
Or the basis of revenge from SC?

My point is we can't really judge to what extent personal feelings, either way, lie behind all this.

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:25

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 14:08

Maybe William is the secret source of funds 😉🤞😂
All a plot with Rawlinson to remove Harry’s charity and ultimately get him kicked out of others such as Invictus. He might not be able to remove Harry’s title (yet) but he can remove his ability to swagger around on faux Royal tours claiming to be doing charitable work.

(Just to say I’m not seriously speculating this, but I like the idea!).

Dishes served cold and all that.

This would be a great plot twist.

Lifestooshort71 · 11/04/2026 14:25

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/04/2026 14:12

She shouldn’t have even been on the stage, the ceremony was absolutely nothing to do with her, she wasn’t even expected to turn up at the event, let alone crash the stage, it would be like SC’s husband suddenly making an unannounced appearance and shoving Harry around on the podium.

M is socially awkward unless she is the centre of attention. She has proved this many times with surly glances, moues of exasperation and pushy elbows and hands. Only when the cameras are flashing directly at her does the megawatt smile and supercilious behaviour hold fast. There must be a name/label for this sort of thing (and I don't mean narcissistic).

IdaGlossop · 11/04/2026 14:45

Lifestooshort71 · 11/04/2026 14:25

M is socially awkward unless she is the centre of attention. She has proved this many times with surly glances, moues of exasperation and pushy elbows and hands. Only when the cameras are flashing directly at her does the megawatt smile and supercilious behaviour hold fast. There must be a name/label for this sort of thing (and I don't mean narcissistic).

I agree with your comment about Meghan's behaviour if she is centre of attention and would add that I think she needs to be in control too. That's why the Royal family didn't work for her. She saw she would never be in charge.

TheAutumnCrow · 11/04/2026 14:46

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:24

It was appalling optics for M&H. And now it's going to get played again and again.

So, what's the link between M being appallingly rude to SC publicly and SC suing H?

No link? Just a separate occurrence?
Or the basis for the bullying from H?
Or the basis of revenge from SC?

My point is we can't really judge to what extent personal feelings, either way, lie behind all this.

It's all linked, as you can see from the intervew with Sir Trevor Phillips.

This article about the landscape of connections with Harry imagining himself at the centre, rather than his placing Sentebale there, might be of interest.

news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-number-one-risk-to-his-own-charity-says-chair-who-accused-him-of-bullying-and-harassment-13338522

Mylovelygreendress · 11/04/2026 14:46

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:24

It was appalling optics for M&H. And now it's going to get played again and again.

So, what's the link between M being appallingly rude to SC publicly and SC suing H?

No link? Just a separate occurrence?
Or the basis for the bullying from H?
Or the basis of revenge from SC?

My point is we can't really judge to what extent personal feelings, either way, lie behind all this.

I would love to see the messages from Harry telling Sophie to issue a statement of support for Meghan and Sophie refusing !

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 15:02

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 14:24

It was appalling optics for M&H. And now it's going to get played again and again.

So, what's the link between M being appallingly rude to SC publicly and SC suing H?

No link? Just a separate occurrence?
Or the basis for the bullying from H?
Or the basis of revenge from SC?

My point is we can't really judge to what extent personal feelings, either way, lie behind all this.

Have you read the new Bower book? He goes into detail about what Harry did, what internal procedures he ignored, what he did next to try to oust Dr S.

Typo edit; and also to add - M being rude to Dr S is the least of it.

prh47bridge · 11/04/2026 15:08

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 15:02

Have you read the new Bower book? He goes into detail about what Harry did, what internal procedures he ignored, what he did next to try to oust Dr S.

Typo edit; and also to add - M being rude to Dr S is the least of it.

Edited

I wouldn't assume Bower is correct. From what I've seen, it is largely based on Chandauka's version of events, which has been described by the then trustees of the charity as "highly misleading". It may be that her version of events is accurate, but I certainly wouldn't take that as a given.

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 15:40

Going back to Prince Seeiso - I don’t actually recall what he had to say at the time of him and Harry leaving Sentabale last year apart from expressions of sorrow etc. of course the press interest was Harry so we probably didn’t get to hear much anyway.
If he has made any statements since I’ve missed them. Has he had anything to say about Sentabale recently?

He’s in a more difficult situation as he is the Prince of Lesotho, and of course Sentabale operates in Lesotho. I wonder if he has quietly come over to Sophie’s way of thinking/operating. Rejecting the colonial white Prince with his white saviour complex, sponsorship coming via rich white boys playing politics around the world etc. And accepting that it’s better for Sentabale to be Africa based. He might be quietly backing away from Harry. He might even be privately funding the case…..😉

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 15:40

Another plot twist fantasy! 😂😂

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 15:50

prh47bridge · 11/04/2026 15:08

I wouldn't assume Bower is correct. From what I've seen, it is largely based on Chandauka's version of events, which has been described by the then trustees of the charity as "highly misleading". It may be that her version of events is accurate, but I certainly wouldn't take that as a given.

I’d like to know how he knows things like Sophie spelling out the reality to Harry on the flight to Singapore. Has Sophie been confiding her version of events? Who else would be supplying details? It’s nice to think of Sophie delivering a few truth bombs to Harry and she probably did at some point but whether it happened as TB reported who knows? (Apart from Harry and Sophie).

Jellybelly80 · 11/04/2026 16:53

StrawberryWasp · 11/04/2026 13:28

We really don't know what case SC has against H yet. Just because she's a lawyer doesn't mean she won't pursue personal emotionally led cases. There are many unstable lawyers with delusions about their own ability to weaponise the law!!

She seems to have it in for Harry and it's not clear to what extent that is justified.

I found her misogynoir claim ridiculous (but also hilarious H was accused of this!). Whatever has gone on I don't think it's because H hates black women. So that suggested to me some unsubstantiated victim narrative she's playing.

We'll see, maybe she has the receipts to back this up. Either way this is just a delicious never ending soap opera.

It is possible for people to have a dislike of people from a particular background but be married to someone from that background and keep things all separate in their head.

I’ve seen it many times.

Jellybelly80 · 11/04/2026 17:07

I don’t know how these court cases conclude but I’m of the opinion the charity doesn’t have to technically get a ‘guilty’ verdict against Harry and his friend. In fact I’d be quite happy with ‘a not proven’ verdict as along the way we’re certainly going to see (once again) just how low certain people will stoop. I’m thinking of cases in Scotland when someone has walked free with a not proven verdict yet people know full well they’re actually guilty.

and just to add - I know it’s not a case of guilty/not guilty etc but the above is the best I can do with my thoughts.

MrsLeonFarrell · 11/04/2026 17:11

I very much doubt William is stupid enough to come within a thousand miles of Harry's mess.

prh47bridge · 11/04/2026 17:24

Jellybelly80 · 11/04/2026 17:07

I don’t know how these court cases conclude but I’m of the opinion the charity doesn’t have to technically get a ‘guilty’ verdict against Harry and his friend. In fact I’d be quite happy with ‘a not proven’ verdict as along the way we’re certainly going to see (once again) just how low certain people will stoop. I’m thinking of cases in Scotland when someone has walked free with a not proven verdict yet people know full well they’re actually guilty.

and just to add - I know it’s not a case of guilty/not guilty etc but the above is the best I can do with my thoughts.

This is a civil case so the verdict won't be guilty, not guilty or not proven (which has now, thankfully, been abolished). The judge will either find for the claimant (Sentembale) or for the defendants (Harry and Mark Dyer) on each of the claims. There is no in between - it is entirely black and white. Their judgement (assuming the case gets that far - it is always possible there will be a settlement) will set out their view of the witnesses (i.e. whether they are credible) and what they have decided regarding each of the claims.

Coclare · 11/04/2026 18:25

Rhaidimiddim · 11/04/2026 15:02

Have you read the new Bower book? He goes into detail about what Harry did, what internal procedures he ignored, what he did next to try to oust Dr S.

Typo edit; and also to add - M being rude to Dr S is the least of it.

Edited

How on earth can any MH charity allow PH to speak on MH in the workplace (this week in Melbourne) - with his track record and yet another shocking investigation and now court case examining his appalling treatment of staff and colleagues - he has a shocking record.

LazyCatLtd · 11/04/2026 18:46

Coclare · 11/04/2026 18:25

How on earth can any MH charity allow PH to speak on MH in the workplace (this week in Melbourne) - with his track record and yet another shocking investigation and now court case examining his appalling treatment of staff and colleagues - he has a shocking record.

I find it absolutely incomprehensible. Obviously a lot of these charities are not very ethical.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/04/2026 19:54

ShamedBySiri · 11/04/2026 15:50

I’d like to know how he knows things like Sophie spelling out the reality to Harry on the flight to Singapore. Has Sophie been confiding her version of events? Who else would be supplying details? It’s nice to think of Sophie delivering a few truth bombs to Harry and she probably did at some point but whether it happened as TB reported who knows? (Apart from Harry and Sophie).

We know that Harry blabs and we also know that his friends are not as discreet as he thinks so it is highly likely that one of them has spilled the beans.

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