PR disasters (IYKYK) thread 5

[AtIusvue]

For Meghan and Harry, As ever and Archewell posts.

My impression is that she definitely enjoys hurting people who displease her. Quite disturbing, really.

I'm not sure what the King is supposed to do. They have, by definition, left the army. He has no jurisdiction over what individuals chose to do. Invictus is a separate organisation outside the Institution.

The best to hope for is that Charles doesn't open the Games in Birmingham, at this point I feel that is unlikely.

They didn’t sue him for his first book or any of the multiple media outlets who published their separate and independent investigations on their bullying of staff.

Why not?

Especially when they are constantly in court back to back with cases against other media with libel / defamation claims - they must be a dab hand at this process the amount of times they’ve initiated proceedings.

Why not either of TBs books and the publication of the bullying investigations?

Yes. The need for revenge is quite unsettling.

Agree, and as @JSMill & @Noodledog have also said why not lawyer up. H seems not averse to this. But am I right in thinking they only expressed "disappointment" over the VF "American Grifters" article.

They never want to antagonise the American press and never say anything against them. Hence VF, HR (bullying accusations) and the latest piece where it claimed her title was announced on her arrival (making her look like a deranged diva)

But the British …well they always have something to say.

We will have to agree to disagree on the "helpless King" point of view.

KC3 has plenty of levers to pull on behind the scenes and an abundance of courtiers/MPs to execute his wishes. Invictus board and leadership sit in the UK and run in UK social circles. The organisation gets tax dollars. That is more than sufficient leverage.

Putting H's emotions before duty won't help in the long run. The issues at Invictus are already coming out and are already tarnishing H's reputation...and will make H toxic for anything military related going forward. KC3 needs to rein H in, for H's sake and for the exploited veterans' sakes.

So the BBC reporting.

All they’ve done is

• create more attention for the book. You couldnt pay for this kind of coverage.
• Look absolutely bonkers themselves, by calling it a deranged conspiracy. When you see it in the quotation marks in the title….you can see how unhinged this statement will be viewed by everyone
• look like fools because we know 100% they will not sue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3v7qpnx73yo

Interestingly, they are glossing over the Invictus revelations, which for me are the most contentious revelations, I noticed it in a few other media reports too.

Because you know what happens..when people publish deranged conspiracy theories…they get sued.

Just like Candace Owen getting sued by Bridgette Macron for the crazy trans storyline.

Their reaction statement has Meghan written all over it - that's her typical whatever-the-opposite-of-pithy style of writing.

I wonder if Harry still thinks she's amazing and still believes everything she tells him. Or does he maybe look at her these days resentfully, and blame her for all that he's lost and for where he now is.

Yes! Hadn't noticed that. British media = the enemy, perpetually

If I worked at the Mail, Express etc I would write small pieces about them on the regular saying untrue but utterly trivial things, just to see if they would clap back with a rebuttal EVERY time. 'Prince Harry denies that his favourite flowers are gladioli... Meghan, Duchess of Sussex is not allergic to watermelon...' that sort of thing.

I also think it’s appalling that they allowed them to play a match 22 vs 8. That’s just humiliating surely?

Surely visa issues and things like that should have been sorted in plenty of time before the games. And this match should not have been allowed to go ahead, tough for the Nigerian players who made it over but surely better than being humiliated in an un winnable match.

the more I hear about Invictus, the more it seems like a deeply unprofessional organisation.

Can you imagine the outcry when it became known that the King was trying to destroy a charity that was all about veterans?

The King isn't helpless but we live in a democracy and I would be the first in line to call for abolition of the monarchy is he started doing things like this.

We all have free will and Harry is exercising his to the detriment of him and his charities but I don't believe it reflects badly on the monarchy.

I don’t think they’ll have had all 22 on court at the same time. It’s just a bigger pool of players to swap about.

The problem Harry and Meghan have with Bowers' book is that they have put enough out there in their tantrums on Oprah and in Spare and Meghan's various little comments in multiple interviews, to make his allegations seem truthful.

Without Harry and Meghan's own words I'd be inclined to believed he was grinding his own axe (and to be fair I think he to some extent) but their own words give him credibility.

I find the statement from the IG in very poor taste.

Cosplaying disability.

It is a feature of narcissistic rage.

I think I disagree. I think that the IG board should be dealing with the H&M problem, and should be seen to be doing so.

I don't think anyone but the Charities Commission should be butting in, especially not KC3, who could be accused of wanting what's best for him and the RF and not what's best for the charity.

Oh dear…. and Meghan accuse royal author of 'deranged conspiracy' www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3v7qpnx73yo they are not happy

Yes. It reminds me of someone I know. I got quite the shiver up my spine when it dawned on me.

The extract in today's Times supports what I have long believed: pa, Camilla, William and Catherine + others in the family know Harry is vulnerable because he's a bit dim and emotionally fragile. It must have been quite alarming for them to see him coming under the sway of so powerful a personality as Meghan's, knowing that she would always outwit him. What Harry sees as opposition from his family was in all probability wanting to save him from himself.

I think this is probably true and wonder whether Harry will ever change his pov. He doesn’t seem particularly able to admit he was wrong. Very unlucky to meet Meghan and not someone a bit kinder and less ambitious imo.

Yes, apparently it’s the same as regular basketball - 5 players on, with a total squad (ie potential substitutes) of 12.

So obviously the US team had a massive advantage on pretty much every level, like the ability of Manchester City to field a 5-a-side football team against the Craggy Island Top Priest All Stars.

One one hand I think the say nothing , give the Sussexes enough rope to hang themselves ( figuratively ) is a good tactic , on the other hand they do seem to be taking the piss with eg IG , trading on the titles (if not the HRHs - but then I think to the general public the HRH isn't as big a deal as the titles - although I know the RF think it is ) So in time I think H&M need more sanctions than the Sandringham Summit ( which they appear to be ignoring) . Act , I think anyone who knows anything about the RF realise these two are estranged members who have told lies and half truths about the RF - but there are those who might think Prince , Duke , Duchess means something . So cleaner for them to either give them up or to have them taken away. I don't think they'll ever give those titles up so given time I think they should be rescinded . Or , they stop with H&M and possibly A&L but they can be passed on no further. Don't know. There's only so much I can worry about a couple of small children having titles in a country which actively sought to get rid of them (titles not the children 😊)

Anecdote. I went to a party at my son's flat last evening. A good friend of his was there and told me she was wooed by an Italian Count some time ago . He promised to make her a countess. Luckily she realised he had nothing else going for him other than a title so gave him a wee swerve. Each to their own 😂