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PA & Sarah - problems stem from not enough £?

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HolidayHideaway · 20/02/2026 20:32

Sarah said in 1996 in all years together Andrew’s income never exceeded $50,000. Neither seem to understand money.

Has so much of this mess happened as neither had the funds for the life expected? PA had only a moderate sum from civil list & most went on official engagements & staff & his office.

An evening dress cost $4,000 & Sarah said in mid 90s (in her book ‘My Story’ written for USA audience hence dollar amounts) & she needed a lot, she began to quickly run up debt. She was expected to host Christmas parties for 250 & have hairdressers & make up artists, nannies etc. She was young & had no guidance & a spendthrift if unchecked by own admission - often buying very generous gifts for others.

The Queen seemed to give gifts NB: house but neither had money to run in manner expected.

If PA & SF had a steady & generous allowance would he have avoided ‘Epstein’ & much seediness? Presumably Will & Kate have always had access to bigger funds?

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stayathomegardener · 24/02/2026 21:08

HolidayHideaway · 20/02/2026 21:57

That’s very fair. Do the Royal siblings all have approx the same funding/access to money? Bar Charles, obviously. Was PA’s ‘Pitch At Palace’ effectively an ego driven greedy initiative?

I watched or read something last year exposing ‘Pitch at Palace’ and AMW was creaming money off in ways I think should be added to this official misconduct investigation.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/02/2026 21:39

Serpentstooth · 24/02/2026 17:43

They are a pair of greedy grifters, just like all the other benefit cheats living in free public housing that MN likes to complain about. If they didn't have titles and lived on a council estate the DSS would have prosecuted them long ago. They would never have enough.

Worse.
Most benefit cheats don’t exactly achieve a luxury lifestyle on it. These two were trying, as a pp put it, to live a billionaire lifestyle on a millionaire’s income. They didn’t need any of it.

stayathomegardener · 04/03/2026 06:53

Lunde · 03/03/2026 22:20

Turns out AMW had a second Crown Estate property in Ascot

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9gepe7z4yo

Interesting, looks like there will need to be a review of all crown estate properties to check they are paying a market rent.
Seems as if it was at least 50% below market value.

SardinesOnButteredToast · 04/03/2026 07:07

If their amount of money explains their horrendous conduct, then on my amount of money I should be allowed a minimum of eight murders. Please confirm acceptance of this agreement and I shall start my list.

CathyorClaire · 04/03/2026 10:17

Lunde · 03/03/2026 22:20

Turns out AMW had a second Crown Estate property in Ascot

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9gepe7z4yo

So yet another sweetheart property deal favouring a royal pocket at the expense of the public purse 😡

I scent another looming scandal and hope the PAC gets cracking.

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/03/2026 12:47

In comparison with Charles, as Prince of Wales, Andrew had less income but, as many have stated, Anne and Edward don't seem to have financial problems.

The very fact Sarah is complaining that ballgoens "need" to cost £4000 indicates a detachment from Not Heir Royal reality

It's pretty apparent that no amount of money would have ever been sufficient.

They are the problem.

viques · 04/03/2026 12:56

LuckyNumberFive · 20/02/2026 22:16

He is not 'Prince' Andrew anymore as you well know so I've no idea why you're using PA. He's just plain old Andrew, the assumed sex offender with a penchant for paedophile friends.

It does make me meanly snigger a bit when some papers and journalists insist on calling him Mr Mountbatten Windsor. I imagine Andrew Mountbatten Windsor is a dig with a sharp knife but to be relegated to Mr with the rest of the plebs must twist that sharp knife against every nerve in his body.

Lunde · 04/03/2026 14:56

CathyorClaire · 04/03/2026 10:17

So yet another sweetheart property deal favouring a royal pocket at the expense of the public purse 😡

I scent another looming scandal and hope the PAC gets cracking.

Interesting that there is no mention of who actually lived there!

stayathomegardener · 04/03/2026 14:59

I think the article says it was for his staff.

Lunde · 04/03/2026 18:27

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/03/2026 12:47

In comparison with Charles, as Prince of Wales, Andrew had less income but, as many have stated, Anne and Edward don't seem to have financial problems.

The very fact Sarah is complaining that ballgoens "need" to cost £4000 indicates a detachment from Not Heir Royal reality

It's pretty apparent that no amount of money would have ever been sufficient.

They are the problem.

The deal seems to be that trust funds are set up for grandchildren/great grandchildren in such a way to benefit the children who don't inherit. A bit like Harry receiving Frogmore and the greatest payments from the Queen Mother's trust fund at age 21 and 40 - and Anne, Edward and AMW were given houses and money.

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/03/2026 18:30

Lunde · 04/03/2026 18:27

The deal seems to be that trust funds are set up for grandchildren/great grandchildren in such a way to benefit the children who don't inherit. A bit like Harry receiving Frogmore and the greatest payments from the Queen Mother's trust fund at age 21 and 40 - and Anne, Edward and AMW were given houses and money.

It's a good idea, unless you expect to be able to keep up with billionaires.

milveycrohn · 07/03/2026 15:48

@HolidayHideaway
Sarah said in 1996 in all years together Andrew’s income never exceeded $50,000. Neither seem to understand money.

I agree to a certain extent, though $50,000 in 1996 was worth a lot more than it is now.
This especially as the RF are not expected to make money out of being royal; using their royal connections. I think this is the main reason for Harry and Meghan leaving, in that they could make much more money out of the RF.
That said, P. Anne also has some horse events at Gatcombe (or did), which presumably earned some extra money.
Edward and Sopie were caught out in the early days - cant remeber what it was exactly.
It also depends on what the money is expected to be used for.
Are they expected to pay their household staff out of this sum, or is that extra?
The Civil List has since been replaced, and I am not sure how each family member was calculated. (With the exception of the Prince of Wales, who was funded by the Duchy of Cornwall, and the then P. Charles funded William and Harry directly).
A lot of what the RF have are assets, which is not the same as income.
ie they may as well wear the brooches, necklaces etc, as they otherwise just reside in a safe.

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