PA & Sarah - problems stem from not enough £?

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Sarah said in 1996 in all years together Andrew’s income never exceeded $50,000. Neither seem to understand money.

Has so much of this mess happened as neither had the funds for the life expected? PA had only a moderate sum from civil list & most went on official engagements & staff & his office.

An evening dress cost $4,000 & Sarah said in mid 90s (in her book ‘My Story’ written for USA audience hence dollar amounts) & she needed a lot, she began to quickly run up debt. She was expected to host Christmas parties for 250 & have hairdressers & make up artists, nannies etc. She was young & had no guidance & a spendthrift if unchecked by own admission - often buying very generous gifts for others.

The Queen seemed to give gifts NB: house but neither had money to run in manner expected.

If PA & SF had a steady & generous allowance would he have avoided ‘Epstein’ & much seediness? Presumably Will & Kate have always had access to bigger funds?

It must be so hard only being a millionaire when you are certain it must be your destiny to live like a billionaire.

I mean, it's no wonder that they had to turn to a rich paedophile for help. What else could they possibly have done?

Why is it bewildering?
They were greedy, stupid,. arrogant and entitled. They wanted to live a billionaire lifestyle without the wit, hard work, ability and resilience that successful people have.

SF also made her own money from commercial projects post-divorce

• she made an estimated £2-4 million from publishing and merchandising of the Budgie the Helicopter character
• she was paid £1+ million a year from 1997-2001 by Weight Watchers
• then she made money from TV appearances (Oprah, Friends etc) and endorsing projects (china, Avon etc)

Also didn't Epstein pay a lot of her bills from 1996-2011?

She just got greedy about living a billionaire lifestyle on millionaire money

Exactly.

I know the press play on the “frugal” thing with Anne when she wears an old outfit, but she’s not exactly been working out the Clubcard points to take the kids to a caravan for a few days in the holidays!

The Yorks just lived ridiculously beyond their means. Which is beyond ridiculous when you consider what their means were!

Andrews 250k civil list from 1990 is the equivalent of 624k now. With no mortgage, free transport, navy income, gifts, trust funds and investments from godparents and grandparents, plus other freebies they were absolutely minted.

Andrew and Sarah wanted to live a certain lifestyle that they could not afford.

So rather than realising they needed to live within their means and doing just that, like most people do, they chose to exploit their positions and make friends with dodgy people to live the lifestyle they wanted.

That's all there is to it.

I am sure that the palace could have given all kinds of budgeting assistance if that is what they had wanted. But they didn't. They wanted to live in a certain way and did not care what it took to get that.

Given the lifestyle they could afford without resorting to that is far superior to the vast majority of people, you must see that it is very galling to see them essentially say no that's not good enough for me and I am happy to behave corruptly as long as I get what I want.

The late Queen paid school fees for the daughters and they had live in Norland nannies.
Having a house, transport, security and domestic staff provided for you would be enough for most people.

Hasn't some Dubai royal also given them property there? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Exactly! Is this part of her campaign to rehabilitate herself? , well it’s not going to work this time neither here nor the US !

Sorry @HolidayHideaway, nice try but nope ! Andrew and Sarah are finished, no returns, no rehabilitation, no half baked explanations and their daughters will follow suit unless they understand that the bus not only has stopped here but has driven off the cliff and exploded!

Apparently the head royal in Dubai has offered him use of accommodation there.

the former king of Spain lives out there since his abdication. Could end up being a real community of dodgy royals at this rate!

How delightful. I'm sure they'd all get on well.

The others seem to manage on their pittances.

Indeed. It's funny how they managed to not get involved with Epstein, isn't it?

ooh i don't know. she personally met the "Sheikh" and his entourage in the Dorchester to discuss doing PR with him and said well, if someone does PR with us "because of my situation" well...that happens. we don't promise that expressly. she called it an "unspoken benefit" in that transcript.

That was about people choosing them because of her place, particularly those abroad who viewed her as a Princess (which technically she is) and hoped they may also see Edward at events she was working at, and the pull of who else may attend events (they used Julia Roberts as an example if I remember right - easier to get her to attend your event if you tell her a Princess is inviting her).

That’s not selling access to the Queen though. It’s 100% trading on her own place in the RF, but not comparable to her business partner later offering access to Edward for £££ or Sarah offering introductions to Andrew for £££.

Yes, I think focussing on Sophie is letting SF off the hook. There really isn't a comparison.

Yes, because she didn't say it expressly its not the same!

No I don’t think PA was affiliated with Epstein and had creepy if not illegal relationships with young women and girls because his allowance isn’t generous enough.

There are plenty of people on a low income who manage not to abuse others and be self important entitled arseholes. So no, I don't think this would stopped them.

Then how did his siblings and partners cope? Sophie for instance.

That’s a good point.

I don't have enough money for the life I'm entitled to either. What is one to do. Imagine having to earn money like a "normal" person! 🤣🤣🤣 The peasants are so funny!

Of course. Tax free and no scrutiny. Glass half full at least.

"Greedy and not very bright people associate with awful people and end up in the shit" is hardly an unprecedented situation.

They are a pair of greedy grifters, just like all the other benefit cheats living in free public housing that MN likes to complain about. If they didn't have titles and lived on a council estate the DSS would have prosecuted them long ago. They would never have enough.