Palace PR strategy in the wake of AMW-Epstein scandal

[Asmuchastheypossiblycan]

I’ve just seen who I think was a Sky news reporter, reporting on the King’s visit to the Colchester area today, laying out what is obviously the current BP PR strategy in the light of reason developments in the AMW-Epstein scandal.

She said that the Palace wanted it to be made very clear that the RF are very much not ignoring this story and wanting it to go away, and referred her back to Edward’s words about the victims earlier in the week.

But that their policy nonetheless was going to be carry on with their engagements as usual, as they have faced difficulties before, and will do so again.

I’ve no doubt that this is difficult for KC and family but AIBU to think that in the light of what has happened, and the covering up of ALW’s financial and sexual wrongdoings, this isn’t really good enough?

Surely it’s not right that AMW is above the law?

Also, a man in the crowd shouted out a question to KC about whether AMW would be investigated, and two policeman moved him away!

Last time I looked, I thought we lived in a democracy which welcomes free speech?

Why aren’t reporters and members of the public allowed to air their views on this situation and express that AMW should be investigated?

Otherwise isn’t the Palace PR strategy in reality advocating “one rule for them and a different one for us?”

Completely agree. You only need to read about the Republic demonstration on the day of the coronation - they set up in an agreed spot after months of collaboration with the police and it would be a peaceful demonstration. They were just to display ‘not my king’ banners on the coronation route. They all got arrested before the coronation started.

the ‘royals’ don’t want any questions because once we start properly looking at them critically - we will want to know more and more. That’s the reason Charles finally made the move to strip Andrew of his titles - because people were asking about where Andrew’s money came from.

as others have said, Andrew knows where the bodies are buried - they are going to protect him to the last because if what he knows becomes public knowledge - that will truly be the end of any remaining loyalty we may have towards the ‘royals’

Perhaps the only way things will change in democratic Britain is if ordinary folks pressure their MPs. Write letters demanding a proper investigation.

I am going to do this, I just have to spend time thinking through the wording. I am lucky in that in the GE my area was 'redistricted' (if that's a word) and we have gone from a real Royal arse licker of an MP in the post for decades to someone who will be far more open to listening I think.

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Stating a fac shouldn't be a reason for for being arrested. This is insane. We now live in North Korea?

Maybe you are right and Buckingham Palace can just become yet another building that was once something vaguely interesting. London does get more visitors than Paris. France as a whole has rather more attractions than the UK though.

No need to be snobby about Walmart. Surely snobbery is one of the biggest issues surrounding the monarchy.

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See my post of 10:20 - try doing this in North Korea and see how you get on.

Buckingham palace is bloody ugly if you ask me

Hampton court much more worth a visit

Actually, the North Korea comparison is quite fittin. It was AFP (Agence France-Presse) that officially compared the Palace's PR tactics to North Korea and Iran after Catherine's photo manipulation scandal. When a state-funded institution lacks so much transparency that international news agencies put them on a kill list usually reserved for dictatorships, we have a serious problem. We aren't North Korea precisely because we should he allowed to criticize how our taxes are spent and question our leaders, have free speech etc.

It really isn’t comparable to North Korea.
We will have to agree to disagree on this.

I am pretty sure the Palace wouldn't be proud of Kate on the front page of the Enquirer, do they really want to contribute to bottom feeding rags. I think not. I am not being snobby about Walmart. I shop at Asda, Walmart own them I think?!

Paris gets more tourist visitors than London, and took over in 2018. It's pretty equal even stevens but a sweeping statement saying London gets more visitors is just not true.

@Musicalchef

Thanks is for that detail - I’d forgotten about the Frankenphoto

Of course superficially we can assure ourselves that the North Korea example is stupid
Thats why I said the Windsor corruption is overlaid with gilt ( and guilt )
They have been at this a long time . Hence my username . Long years of propaganda.

But they are floundering now that the younger and more informed have no interest in their fripperies and they can only control those who read tabloids ( does anyone ?)

They are now trying to shut down dissent and it’s having the opposite effect .

it’s a matter of record that the Global News Director of AFP compared the Palace’s transparency to North Korea’s for a reason, and I ironically remembered their quote in this context. When the world’s most trusted news agencies have to treat official royal handouts with the same extreme caution they use for dictatorships, it’s no longer just a difference of opinion, but a verified collapse of institutional trust.

Me too, I am going to write as well.

I had no idea about the pre-Coronation agreements with Republic UK not being honoured. That’s outrageous!

Yes. My main motivation for writing to my MP is that I am so sick of the RF having to be dragged kicking and screaming to reveal information or instigate change. When they receive money from the public purse!

They never get ahead of an issue! They obfuscate and cover up, up to the point when it all becomes public, and only then do they act.

It’s simply not good enough in a self-policing institution. They knew about Andrew’s inappropriate behaviour and dodgy dealing as Trade Envoy for years before they were forced to act and eject AMW from Windsor. No one in the RF did anything to help the victims. Or to put a stop to his corrupt deals.

Which leads one to wonder; what else are they covering up?

Just listening to them discussing this whole thing on Times radio. So maybe it isn't blowing over that quickly.

However, it's not up to his own family to start an investigation on Andrew, is it?

That's quite the pivot!!

Republic have templates on their website if anyone wants to use those as a start. Their tool also helps you find your MP via your postcode

Don't forget the palace also lied that Catherine didn’t have cancer only for her to comfirm later that it was cancer. They also said that the victims of Epstein case were liars and that Andrew never abused anyone. The palace published "memories differ" after Meghan's account of racism and terrible time in the palace. The never complain never explain is their moto, but they lied that Catherine didn't use hair extensions (we knew she used even prior the terrible illness). But the royals can't say anything showing sympathy for the victims (beyond Edward) and to finish they are now supressing people who make questions... Apparently the Palace considers hair extensions is more important than what is currently happening...

Yes - the wording was ‘ recollections may differ’
Snide and condescending and based on everything else which is coming out - a cover up.

I was more disturbed by Buckingham palace stating that Virgina Guifree’s claim against Andrew was ‘false and without foundation’

That was throwing all the weight of the establishment and monarchy against one woman and they were lying then too as they all knew about Andrew and Epstein.
Cost her her life but she is being vindicated now

London 22.7m vs Paris18.3m

It depends where you look

Paris is the most visited city in the world, with 44 million tourists in 2022

Bottom line is... Paris manages to do it without a Monarchy.

But with a much prettier city.

The man shouting was moved away as he would have been deemed to be a credible threat to the principal. Not because he was shouting, but because heckling can easily turn from shouting to a more physical attack. He was not arrested nor charged for shouting the question. Free speech doesn’t mean freedom from any consequences.

The family’s response to this has been shocking. There should have been a full throated apology from all senior royals for the whole debacle. I’d like to see William and Catherine in particular, publicly state that Andrew is no longer welcome in their lives and how they will deal with these kinds of issues in the future. I think it’s fair to say “never explain, never complain” should be set aside when it comes to links with paedophiles.

Not exactly. The Palace of Versailles estate attracts 15 million people annually.

@BoredZelda

No more weasel words please

This whole scandal is far too disturbing for that .
And what can they say ?
‘Sorry we’re still covering for Andrew and we’ve all known for decades and we are only doing the bare minimum now because you lot know some of it’

Pass the police notes to the legal authorities.
The rest is more deflection