Palace PR strategy in the wake of AMW-Epstein scandal

[Asmuchastheypossiblycan]

I’ve just seen who I think was a Sky news reporter, reporting on the King’s visit to the Colchester area today, laying out what is obviously the current BP PR strategy in the light of reason developments in the AMW-Epstein scandal.

She said that the Palace wanted it to be made very clear that the RF are very much not ignoring this story and wanting it to go away, and referred her back to Edward’s words about the victims earlier in the week.

But that their policy nonetheless was going to be carry on with their engagements as usual, as they have faced difficulties before, and will do so again.

I’ve no doubt that this is difficult for KC and family but AIBU to think that in the light of what has happened, and the covering up of ALW’s financial and sexual wrongdoings, this isn’t really good enough?

Surely it’s not right that AMW is above the law?

Also, a man in the crowd shouted out a question to KC about whether AMW would be investigated, and two policeman moved him away!

Last time I looked, I thought we lived in a democracy which welcomes free speech?

Why aren’t reporters and members of the public allowed to air their views on this situation and express that AMW should be investigated?

Otherwise isn’t the Palace PR strategy in reality advocating “one rule for them and a different one for us?”

I asked a friend, who is a police officer about this. It was when that guy shouted something to Andrew being a pedophile, during the Queens funeral procession thing in Scotland. The guy was arrested.

My friend said that if you behave or say something in public, which causes harassment, alarm or distress to other people, this is a Public Order offence and the police can arrest you.

So, apparently, yes, it is against the law.

I was a bit shocked to be honest.

Assume Prince Phillip didn't know about Lord Mountbatten abusing trafficked children, although it was known by the FBI during WW2.

No matter what happens though, even if they are heckled more and more, and are made somewhat uncomfortable about it, as @Ukisgaslit said, they will do other things. Things that do not involve waving and dodging hecklers, and parading through the streets in their coaches and massive Bentleys with the raised roof, a cocktail cabinet and pure wool knee blankets on board.

And even if they bunker down the loot will still flow in. That's the big issue for me. Their biggest punishment would be to cut off as much funding as possible and make them slither off. Oh dear I'm getting a bit wound up about them now, I mustn't let them get to me like this. 😊

@minou123

Really - maybe you should check with your friend .

If I remember correctly the young man addressed Andrew and called him a ‘sick old man’ . I can hear his voice now. It went ringing around the walls .

Well done that man- I think he was brave and I’ll assume you agree with his assessment of Andrew .

You know that Princes have been getting up to this sort of shit since prehistory don’t you? They have abolished the monarchy yet, don’t really think that this will bring it down.

Yes stop the funding or start by cutting the funding

There would be no need for a debate or a vote- I guarantee the Windsors would slither off themselves . They are in it for the money and perks

Yes, you're right. It was "sick old man".

I agree with you. He was right, which is why I checked with my friend if it was right the police could arrest him and under what law.
My friend said public order offence.
I had a bit of a disagreement with my friend about this.

What's brave about that, this isn't North Korea 🤣

@Orangepate

I find the prehistory debate irrelevant

Will the UK in 2026 continues to tolerate medieval remnant that is the Windsors?

The rest of the world has mostly moved on .
The Windsors got away with the idea that they were Disneyesque and ‘quaint’ or rather the monolith mass media got away with telling us that .
There has always been dissent .

Now the Uk is being dragged down further by this disgusting family . I find their blatant support for pedophiles disturbing . It is dystopian.

I doubt there's any Government that would have the cojones to summarily cut their funding. They know that, and that's the tragedy (travesty!).

@IAmATorturedPoet

He was brave and was hailed as such

And are you so sure we aren’t North Korea with a layer of gilt over the top?

People arrested for questioning Charles proclamation, arrested for holding up a blank piece of paper , arrested for asking questions?

They don’t know how to manage this latest crisis what they are doing is making things worse for the Windsors .

I imagine the RF and their advisors are planning to ride it out, like they have ridden out other scandals. AMW has been stripped and banished, they'll be hoping/assuming that will be enough.

Also, Mandelson is conveniently taking the heat off AMW, and will do for a while. A random person shouting questions at the King on a walkabout won't reignite it all.

Keep calm and carry on, is their best advice for riding it out.

And are you so sure we aren’t North Korea with a layer of gilt over the top?

@Ukisgaslit Yes, I’m quite sure.

@YouAndMeDays

No I disagree

It’s an outdated approach that only worked when we all got our news from a couple of channels and print

They are exposed now and will continue to be so .
And they haven’t a clue about how to deal with it .
Good .

Well, it might not work in the areas of the internet who are against the RF anyway. But out there, it seems to be going fine. A few tabloid articles, and we move on. Twas ever thus.

AMW has been bundled away to Norfolk, and Mandelson is taking the heat off him for now, and that will continue to be the Epstein focus for quite a while.

Maybe some more photos of AMW will come out, but that's kind of already baked in with this strategy.

Yes, and let's not forget the Coronation.

Republic had talks with the Met for three months before it was taking place. The Met agreed where they could hold their protest (out the way, not impinging on anyone)
And when they turned up to unload their van with the placards, all of them were arrested and taken to holding cells for the whole of the duration of the Coronation.
They even arrested night workers who hand out rape alarms to women at night.
It caused an outcry, so much so the Chief Commissioner actually went to Graham Smith's house (Head of Republic) personally to apologise.
It was a travesty and that was when I joined Republic.

Which is why they deal with Charities like Harry who is wanting the internet to be policed. They will be trying to cut down freedom of Speech. The look over here tactics and being figure heads of women’s abuse Charities. Of course Camila won’t give a statement she bought Sarah back into the fold how does that sit with Vulnerable women when your representing domestic abuse and then we have Andrews daughter representing trafficked people literally with this backdrop they have been mingling in the same circles so its the fox in charge of the Hen Coop

@simpsonthecat
Yes it was an outrage .
And the ‘breach of the peace’ line is being used to silence dissent
I looked up Rory who called Andrew a sick old man.
He was arrested and said to journalists ( im paraphrasing) as he was being taken away ‘rich and powerful men should not get away with rape and assault ‘

THAT is the sort of man we should be applauding.
How does his treatment look now ?

Yes the police bundle protesters away but they are rarely if ever charged . It’s a silencing technique and it needs to be challenged.

I am not a huge fan of the royals but I think they earn their keep. I work near Buckingham Palace and the amount of tourism they attract is off the scale. There are vast crowds of people that flock to the Palace and the changing of the guard plus the coach loads of people who head into the shops to buy royal clobber. It is mass tourism year round. All those people are bringing their money and spending it in the UK and we really need that right now. The Royals are part of what makes London one of the top most visited cities in the world.

@Dgll

That argument was debunked years ago

And legoland has more visitors

I’d say we’d have more visitors with the Windsors given the boot. More access.

This is a myth. Tourists don't come expecting to see Charles or any Royals. They come for the architecture, the Palaces, Castles, the heritage, the pomp, the horses, the parades. None of that would stop if we had no Monarch. Buckingham Palace has less visitor numbers than Chester Zoo!

FOI requests to VisitBritain found no data to support the fact that a sitting Monarch drives tourism. If we had no Monarch, we're hardly going to pull down all our castles, like Windsor, Buckingham Palace are we!

Agree.

We are witnessing a continued colossal attempt at cover-up, right before our eyes. The RF know they are deeply implicated by the Andrew/Epstein/Fergie scandal, and seem to be leading the cover-up charge, supported by the police, who also seem to be implicated, given their readiness to help Andrew escape formal investigation.

After all, police officers knew that trafficked women were being ferried into royal palaces and said/did nothing.

But the sheer volume of new incriminating facts that has surfaced in this latest Epstein dump is phenomenal. Someone is going to put it all together and it will paint a damning picture for the royals and establishment figures desperate to protect them.

Perhaps the only way things will change in democratic Britain is if ordinary folks pressure their MPs. Write letters demanding a proper investigation.

Or maybe a future Netflix documentary is what will do it?

@simpsonthecat of course they don't expect to see them but the royals advertise it to the rest of the world. Go to any Walmart in the States and you will regularly see pics of the royals on the front of magazines. Stories about them pop up all over the place. Without them who would the horse guards be guarding? The Palace and the horse guards would just be another expensive relic which would make them less interesting but still expensive.

@Ukisgaslit how much money does legoland bring into the country? There are legolands all over Europe. People aren't going to come to the UK to visit legoland.

No it was an off the cuff example of the many other attractions that get more visitors than anything Windsor related.

Disagree. It can almost be said that there will be more attraction for tourists to visit if we had no Monarch. People will be interested in the monarchial experience, despite not having it. Palaces and Royal estates will have far more visitors, they will be open more, and look at France... tourists are fascinated by the relic of their Monarchy and tourism is far higher.

I think you've lost your argument if you talk about Kate being on the front of the Enquirer in Walmart!