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TawnyVowel · 26/01/2026 16:07

It’s not looking good for the claimants is it, at worst and disorganised at best

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 16:14

Sadie Frost (from last thread)

David Sherborne, representing the seven high-profile claimants in this case, now starts asking his questions to Sadie Frost.
He asks if Frost ever encouraged her friends to pass on any information to journalists.
"No," she replies.
He then asks Frost about details which were published in a Mail on Sunday article titled 'Sadie v Jude'.
She confirms that a series of details published in the piece would likely have been discussed by the pair in a conversation over the phone.

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Viviennemary · 26/01/2026 16:16

Of course their pals blabbed to the papers. Its what folk do. IMHO of course

TirednessOnToast · 26/01/2026 16:17

Placemarking

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 16:19

David Sherborne asks Sadie Frost how the ordeal has been for her.
"The whole process has been very demanding, very distressing, I've had to relive a lot of things I didn't want to relive," she tells the court.
She says her children "have been so supportive over this whole thing".
"It's been horrible, the Daily Mail should be accountable," she adds.
"They're the only people being dishonest saying they didn't do anything.
"Why should they get away with this when they didn't take any accountability?"
Frost says she wants to "move on from it, I'd never want anyone to go through what I've gone through".
"I've had many sleepless nights and it's been horrible," she says.

End of proceedings for the day.

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RecoIIectionsMayVary · 26/01/2026 16:29

I'd never want anyone to go through what I've gone through".

I don't disagree with people having privacy, but this is a bit of a jump.

Has it been said why JL didn't attend?

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 16:39

I think somewhere in last week's summary it said that he wasn't called because his evidence wasn't contested (both sides accepted his statement).

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jeffgoldblum · 26/01/2026 16:39

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 16:19

David Sherborne asks Sadie Frost how the ordeal has been for her.
"The whole process has been very demanding, very distressing, I've had to relive a lot of things I didn't want to relive," she tells the court.
She says her children "have been so supportive over this whole thing".
"It's been horrible, the Daily Mail should be accountable," she adds.
"They're the only people being dishonest saying they didn't do anything.
"Why should they get away with this when they didn't take any accountability?"
Frost says she wants to "move on from it, I'd never want anyone to go through what I've gone through".
"I've had many sleepless nights and it's been horrible," she says.

End of proceedings for the day.

Edited

Same comments as LH , if they don’t want to be there and don’t want to think about it , why exactly are they bringing the case? 🙄

binkie163 · 26/01/2026 16:50

Viviennemary · 26/01/2026 16:16

Of course their pals blabbed to the papers. Its what folk do. IMHO of course

Very often to grease the wheels for favourable articles about themselves! Kate Moss literally coined the phrase 'heroin chic' she was never bothered what was written about her, she was permanently drunk. Last year her friends said she was partying herself to death. 2004 KM and SF fell out for a long time after KM's party because SF was always so drunk! I feel sorry for the kids.
Sherborne is starting to come across as an ambulance chaser on this case, drumming up business on slim pickings, he is ok he still gets paid. He has not prepped PH, LH or SF they have made fools of themselves.

SF "I swear on my life it's not true," she says.
The last bastion of the liar! you dont need to be swearing on anything if you are telling the truth.

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/01/2026 16:52

It's all so strange. We need barristers to explain what is likely to happen.

JSMill · 26/01/2026 16:54

It’s actually quite a fascinating case to follow. It really is stretching credibility that these celebrities only recently became aware that the DM could have employed the same tactics as the Mirror and the Sun. Also a great deal depends on the court taking their word for it as opposed to actual evidence. I can’t believe either SF or LH have the money to throw away on losing a court case.

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 17:01

We discussed on the other thread what evidence you would expect ANL to bring in each case. For PH and EH, it will likely include journalists' contemporaneous notes detailing their sources (not identifying them by name).

For SF, as well as the above they will have the emails. Are they likely to have been able to ask for the minutes of the meetings in between SF and her lawyer and Evan Harris, the head of Hacked Off?

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Lifestooshort71 · 26/01/2026 17:11

👋

Serenster · 26/01/2026 17:16

Just in response to a question asked on the previous thread - what do each of the claimants need to prove to establish their law suit was brought in time?

As is fairly well known, the standard limitation period is six years. If a claim is not brought within this time period, then it is considered out of time, and that is a compete defence to the claims. This is a rule of public policy, and is often applied by the courts. It is intended to give a claimant plenty of time to bring a claim, and means potential defendants don't have the posibility of claims hanging over them for years, and the court is not trying to decide cases based on stale evidence.

To counter any potential unfairness, where key facts about the possible claim are deliberately concealed from the claimant, time does not start running until the claimant has discovered the concealment, or “could with reasonable diligence have discovered it”.

That last bit is important here. The claimants here all argue that they were justified in only filing in 2022 because the Mail deliberately covered up its illegal information gathering practices, by vague invoices, euphemistic wording in its articles, and lying to the Leveson enquiry. And because they are the ones looking for an exception to the normal limitation period being applied, they have to prove that they fall into that exception. So a key issue will be what they each knew prior to 2022, and whether that knowledge means they could reasonably have discovered the facts underlying their claims.

Legally though, the question is not whether they should have discovered the facts earlier, but whether they could have done so. The court expects them to be reasonably diligent, and also to know things which a reasonably diligent investigation would have discovered.

So that is what the judge will have to decide here - whether each of the claimants suspected enough about the Mail’s articles and how they had been sourced to have undertaken some investigation to found a possible claim prior to 2022.

Serenster · 26/01/2026 17:18

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 17:01

We discussed on the other thread what evidence you would expect ANL to bring in each case. For PH and EH, it will likely include journalists' contemporaneous notes detailing their sources (not identifying them by name).

For SF, as well as the above they will have the emails. Are they likely to have been able to ask for the minutes of the meetings in between SF and her lawyer and Evan Harris, the head of Hacked Off?

There will also be lots of evidence of what each claimant knew when, a trailed in the cross-examination so far.

They can’t ask for details of meetings between SF and her lawyer - they will be privileged and are not discloseable.

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 17:30

Thanks @Serenster - always appreciate your input.

Apologies, my wording wasn't clear. I didn't mean meetings between 'SF and her lawyer' but meetings between 'SF, her lawyer and Evan Harris' as suggested in one of the email trails.

Antony White picks up where we left off, focusing on a meeting between Sadie Frost, her lawyer and Hacked Off chief Dr Evan Harris on 14 April 2016.
Frost says after the meeting, her lawyer Mark Thompson "told me there was no action to be taken at that time, I don't question his authority or his job".
The court is shown an email sent to Harris and Hacked Off supporter Hugh Grant the day after their meeting.
"On the evidence that we have unearthed, Sadie Frost met with Evan and an eccentric lawyer yesterday and agreed to launch an action against the MOS (Mail on Sunday)," it reads.

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GwendolineFairfax8 · 26/01/2026 17:35

Sadie Frost’s lawyer, Mark Thomson was Hugh Grant’s lawyer when he sued the News of the World in 2012. Just saying.

BemusedAmerican · 26/01/2026 17:42

Identity of " eccentric lawyer"?

Sheltering at home while the ten inches of snow outside is removed. This is an interesting break from laundry.

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 17:45

Hope all are safe @BemusedAmerican

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BemusedAmerican · 26/01/2026 17:51

Thanks! My family around the US is safe and starting to dig out. Everyone took the snow warning advice seriously. The worst once a cracked pipe for one family member.

I'm hoping my commute tomorrow won't be too bad.

bluegreygreen · 26/01/2026 17:56

We have family in Toronto so always keep an eye on the weather over there

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hepsitemiz · 26/01/2026 17:58

I know a few eccentric lawyers myself😉

binkie163 · 26/01/2026 18:07

GwendolineFairfax8 · 26/01/2026 17:35

Sadie Frost’s lawyer, Mark Thomson was Hugh Grant’s lawyer when he sued the News of the World in 2012. Just saying.

They all seem to be connected to each other in some way, which makes SF point of never having known who else was involved in the case or knew anything about it quite ridiculous.

Serenster · 26/01/2026 18:41

Frost says after the meeting, her lawyer Mark Thompson "told me there was no action to be taken at that time, I don't question his authority or his job".

Frost must have been warned not to talk about what her lawyer said to her - shes sailing dangerously close to waiving privilege in the conversation there, meaning ANL could ask for for disclosure of his notes of their conversation.

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