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Why was Prince Philip allowed to keep saying offensive things?

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SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 10:30

There are so many examples of Philip saying offensive things such as:

"If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed." This was said to a group of students during a royal visit to China.

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" This was said in response to calls to ban guns after the Dunblane incident.

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." This was Philip talking about a fuse box in a factory.

There are so many more examples. Why was he allowed to act this way whilst representing the Royal Family? I like a laugh, I can take a joke, but he was so often just really offensive.

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SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 11:28

pinkdelight · 06/01/2026 11:20

Good! Lots of people would agree with you, but obviously not everyone and it's always worth trying to expand your sphere of understanding beyond just the people who share your viewpoint on the world. Otherwise the division only grows. Which isn't to say you have to share their views or condone them, but it's good to acknowledge that humanity is more complex than everyone being 'a decent human who does the right things' by whatever definition you're using to deem yourself such. Some terrible people do great things, some decent people do terrible things, and a whole spectrum between. Black and white thinking (no pun intended) can be limiting and cancelling points of view rarely helps them to go away, often quite the opposite.

I agree and I think he should have been helped and guided to do better. If he wasn’t, that wasn’t acceptable with all the resources they had. If he was, and he either ignored them and failed to change, grow and do better, then he wasn’t suitable to do his role.

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BeardedBarley · 06/01/2026 11:29

I’m not a royalist, but I think they should at least be interesting and gossip worthy.

I miss the days of Princess Margaret - snooty old lush, Philip - outrageous, funny and rude, Diana - slightly unhinged, prone to stalking, Fergie - totally dodgy grifter, Harry - seemed like a laugh.

Now they’re all terribly well behaved but boring. Kate is utterly blah, William too.

I want scandal and judgement, dammit.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 06/01/2026 11:30

pinkdelight · 06/01/2026 10:48

You still haven't explained what you mean by allowed. He was a grown up and can say what he wants and clearly gave no shits about the consequences, as you probably wouldn't with his kind of lifestyle. No one can put him on the naughty step until he learns to only say nice things.

I'm not one for censoring adults, but he very willingly exploited his immense privilege and the fact that he was untouchable. It's especially nasty bullying behaviour - even gaslighting really - when you know very well that you can make an openly racist or other deliberately hurtful comment and the person feels forced to laugh it off and defer to you as their 'better'. He could be grossly offensive to them, but they had to be obsequious and charming to him.

I think back to the time when there was the inquiry about Diana's death, and there were many people who believed that PP might have been responsible for/connected to her death. Of course, the official inquiry found unequivocally that it had been the result of a tragic accident (albeit exacerbated by the drink driver and chasing paparazzi) and certainly not a premeditated murder of any kind.

However, just theoretically supposing that PP had planned and ordered her death, do we really think that anybody would have been brave enough to have officially released this - with nobody quashing it? Followed by his sentencing in a court and imprisonment, all sanctioned in the name of his own wife - one whom we later discovered prefers to pay off people and try to buy their silence, rather than see her own family members face due legal procedures?

And if we agree that - had he wanted to - he could have got away with something like that... how was anybody ever going to stop him 'only' making grossly offensive and nasty comments to 'little people'?

Horrace · 06/01/2026 11:32

Nourishinghandcream · 06/01/2026 11:27

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." This was Philip talking about a fuse box in a factory.

The way this one was reported in the press really annoyed me at the time, I actually felt FOR him.

A common phrase (which is still in use today) is refer to substandard work as being done by a cowboy. PH was not exactly a man of the people and quite simply used the wrong term (i.e. cowboys & indians) while trying to be relevant to the people he was meeting.

Well Im offended on behalf of all cowboys. I want everyone mentioning substandard work being done by cowboys be cancelled with immediate effect.

🤣

Scrabsqueak · 06/01/2026 11:33

Santangelo · 06/01/2026 11:02

Because most of us didn’t find what he said was offensive.

You don’t speak for me.
What he said was offensive then and is offensive now.
Im in my 60s btw.

Dgll · 06/01/2026 11:33

He was well known for saying offensive things but back in those days people were less shocked about this kind of thing. He did say them less as he got older, so I guess he kind of moved with the times.

CreativeGreen · 06/01/2026 11:34

It doesn't make sense to say 'things were different', because while he was alive and saying this stuff he was known by those who liked it for his 'gaffes' and those who didn't for his racism.... It's not as though people suddenly got narked by it all in 2020, otherwise we wouldn't even know, or have have batted an eyelid, at the time when he did come out with (for example) the slitty eyes comment.

Some people just do like racist old duffers, and many felt he had some kind of redemptive 'relatability' or even as the youth often seem (nauseatingly and patronizingly) to say about old people, that he was 'cute'

SemperIdem · 06/01/2026 11:35

I don’t think he was particularly funny, nor do I think he especially intended to be. He spoke without thought and due to the extreme privilege of his station, there was very little that could be done about it.

The Queen wasn’t the nations adorable granny either. The PR overhaul to recover her public image from the late 90’s onwards, was quite remarkable.

pinkdelight · 06/01/2026 11:35

SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 11:28

I agree and I think he should have been helped and guided to do better. If he wasn’t, that wasn’t acceptable with all the resources they had. If he was, and he either ignored them and failed to change, grow and do better, then he wasn’t suitable to do his role.

Again I think you're being idealistic, which I guess goes with the territory. Maybe it's easier to imagine fixing a dead man's attitudes than wrestling with why today's world is going backwards in many ways rather than progressing towards your ideals.

Horrace · 06/01/2026 11:36

BeardedBarley · 06/01/2026 11:29

I’m not a royalist, but I think they should at least be interesting and gossip worthy.

I miss the days of Princess Margaret - snooty old lush, Philip - outrageous, funny and rude, Diana - slightly unhinged, prone to stalking, Fergie - totally dodgy grifter, Harry - seemed like a laugh.

Now they’re all terribly well behaved but boring. Kate is utterly blah, William too.

I want scandal and judgement, dammit.

Completely agree.
They were their Spitting Image characters back in the day.

PerpetualBurnout · 06/01/2026 11:37

Maybe he was just being a distraction so nobody noticed what Andrew was up to

Reddog1 · 06/01/2026 11:37

He was offensive by any measure. The gammons loved him though.

TheDogParade · 06/01/2026 11:41

Racists and racist apologisers assemble. 🙄

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 11:41

Nourishinghandcream · 06/01/2026 11:27

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." This was Philip talking about a fuse box in a factory.

The way this one was reported in the press really annoyed me at the time, I actually felt FOR him.

A common phrase (which is still in use today) is refer to substandard work as being done by a cowboy. PH was not exactly a man of the people and quite simply used the wrong term (i.e. cowboys & indians) while trying to be relevant to the people he was meeting.

🤣You’re saying he “misspoke”?🤣🤣🤣

Dollymylove · 06/01/2026 11:41

Given the fact that hes well and truly dead, hes not going be saying offensive things anymore, is he, so why the angst?
Things were different in Philips era, Im glad that its no longer acceptable to mock race, disability etc but I think things have swung too far the other way, in that somebody can say something innocuous, harmless etc, but if one other person decides its offensive, youre in bother.
Probably why so many people are so miserable nowadays, they are terrified to say anything lest they offend someone.
Im glad im no longer in the workplace !!

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 11:42

Isn’t there a biography coming up?

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 11:44

Dollymylove · 06/01/2026 11:41

Given the fact that hes well and truly dead, hes not going be saying offensive things anymore, is he, so why the angst?
Things were different in Philips era, Im glad that its no longer acceptable to mock race, disability etc but I think things have swung too far the other way, in that somebody can say something innocuous, harmless etc, but if one other person decides its offensive, youre in bother.
Probably why so many people are so miserable nowadays, they are terrified to say anything lest they offend someone.
Im glad im no longer in the workplace !!

What sort of thing might you want to say that you think you would get into trouble for?

TheDogParade · 06/01/2026 11:44

Nourishinghandcream · 06/01/2026 11:27

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." This was Philip talking about a fuse box in a factory.

The way this one was reported in the press really annoyed me at the time, I actually felt FOR him.

A common phrase (which is still in use today) is refer to substandard work as being done by a cowboy. PH was not exactly a man of the people and quite simply used the wrong term (i.e. cowboys & indians) while trying to be relevant to the people he was meeting.

The mental gymnastics here. Good grief.

Elbowpatch · 06/01/2026 11:45

Reddog1 · 06/01/2026 11:37

He was offensive by any measure. The gammons loved him though.

Isn’t “gammon” an offensive term?

HelpMeGetThrough · 06/01/2026 11:45

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 11:42

Isn’t there a biography coming up?

Think the title is “Bantz by Phil the Greek”.

SerendipityJane · 06/01/2026 11:45

Elbowpatch · 06/01/2026 11:45

Isn’t “gammon” an offensive term?

Not to me.

HTH.

DaisyDazee · 06/01/2026 11:46

Does your title include a womans name beginning with K? Why are you starting this Thread? What is your point, will it benefit anyone? Or are spending your life looking for things to be offended by?

Calenderfoot · 06/01/2026 11:46

All my adult life he was a very old man. I think sometimes he made mistakes - e.g. I think the Indians comment, he meant Cowboys, it looks like it was made by Cowboys, otherwise it doesn't make sense.

That said, it's no surprise that aristocratic white people are racist.

DisforDarkChocolate · 06/01/2026 11:48

MidnightPatrol · 06/01/2026 10:34

He was from a different time, so some of those comments not seen as quite as bad as they would be today…

I remember there being a fuss about at least one of these, people put up with racism, it was acceptable. We're back to that time, probably worse.

Kimura · 06/01/2026 11:48

SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 11:05

To reiterate, the comments in my OP were said between the mid 80s and the year 2000 ish. The one about the Indian was in 1999. It was not acceptable then. the Black and White minstrels show finished in the 70s!

And stuff like Bo Selecta and Little Britain were still considered acceptable on C4 and the BBC in the mid-late 00s. Come Fly With Me had multiple black/brown/yellow face characters and was broadcast on BBC 1 in 2010. They were only removed from streaming services in 2019-2020. We're not to far removed from laughing at casual racism.

Phillip got away with it partly because he reminded everyone of something their old grandad would have let slip, and partly because a lot of people secretly would like to be able to say those things today.