Further pr discussions with the lone gunman now in charge!

[jeffgoldblum]

im hoping that @Atlusvuewill not mind me continuing her work, I have a feeling that there is more to discuss and come!

I honestly believe Charles is still funding him

I agree entirely.

I know that KC is an extremely wealthy man however H and M have a very expensive lifestyle ; huge mortgaged house , security , domestic staff etc so I am not convinced he can continue to support them from private funds

C3 has trousered £45m from the sale of windfarm licences on top of the £20+m he trousers from the DoL.

He could cough Harold's expenses without even noticing and as it's the only explanation that makes much sense without Harold digging deep into the 'protected for the kids' legacy from St. Diana it seems very likely he does.

So why are H and M continually getting in the way of the Palace PR? If H was being bankrolled, surely that would come with an agreement to shut up, stop the fake tours and the embarrassing crap they are doing. H giving a speech to estate agents etc.

I agree. I doubt Charles is bankrolling them, apart maybe from trust funds for the children.

I'm sure Charles wouldn't want to see his son and grandchildren destitute, not that there would ever be any chance of that. But I can't see him funding a Montecito lifestyle for them indefinitely. If that's what they aspire to, they're going to have to earn their keep. Just like everyone else.

I suspect KCIII may be providing for the Sussexes in some way, even if only trusts for the children.

I assume it is from private funds, though, as the Sovereign Grant and DoL annual accounts are public in the same way as the DoC ones are (it was from the DoC accounts, if I remember correctly, that we discovered that he was still funding Harry in Canada for a year after Harry said he'd been cut off).

Yes all very familiar

Meghan makes up words. She uses " learns " as a noun 🤷‍♀️

Didn't she say she was too busy to do more 🤭 and she will possibly do more Tik Tok style things?

I don't think the Palace cares about the clownshow. For now.

They know they have public opinion on their side (for once) and are content to go with it. If that changes we might see a MW style slap on the wrist but that will be all.

I've always said we have never yet seen a royal on their uppers and Harold won't be the first.

Ultimately they have ended up being a very good distraction for the RF. Gives the media something to talk about, and a subject that is much less difficult than MW.

IMHO, the BP has moved on. H is out.

It is possible that KC3 helps from personal funds but KC3, even when H was in the fold, never enabled excessive spending from H.

H&M need an income in the tens of millions per year to support their desired billionaire lifestyle. Problem is that their likely liquid worth is barely in the millions. Hence latching onto billionaires like Victoria Jackson to fleece for freebies.

One would have thought that H would take a long, hard look at his godfather Andrew and choose an opposite path, even if only for the sake of his kids. One can only hope that H wakes up before he entangles himself with a vile character leading to generational consequences, as his cousin Eugenie can tell him.

IF Charles is giving them money from his own private income or wealth I do not see what the issue here is. Many parents give money to their adult children.

I believe the late Queen Mother left a chunk of her estate to Harry as she thought he would need it, and/or it would be fairer as William is next in line to the throne and has guaranteed income from the Duchy of Cornwall (and no doubt from elsewhere too.)
I also find it hard to believe that there are no trust funds or other sources of income in existence for Harry either.
We shall never know due to the pernicious Royal wills protocol/agreement which keeps an increasing number of these sealed - it was originally intended that this would apply to the Sovereign's will alone.
(And btw, didn't Diana leave her entire estate equally to her two sons? )

Wishing everyone happy new year on all sides of the RF debate!

Harry said he wanted to keep his Mum’s money for A and L however he also said that they needed her money when he was “ cut off” financially in 2020 ( he wasn’t) so who knows if that’s still available.
The QM left more to Harry than William as W would inherit the Duchy.
As has been said before , H and M are rich by most people’s standards but they have a very expensive lifestyle. Security is estimated to cost several million per year , mortgage payments are said to be in excess of £50,000 per month.
Unless you have a steady income stream and/ or shrewd investments, the millions won’t last long .
There are rumours ( therefore no idea if true) that Meredith wasn’t being paid what was agreed .
All a mystery . As ever .

"All a mystery . As ever ."
See what you did there. 😆

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Two issues:

Firstly whether, if it's happening, it really is his private income, or if (as per with the RF) he's finding a way to charge it to the rest of us

And secondly, Harry's put it on record that his father cut him off and has never seen fit to correct that - which again would be pretty standard given the time he took to row back on suggestions of racism among the family

I don't see the issue, its not an issue unless its actually known imo

Besides on other threads duscissing thr RF finances w have the book and then the recent TV programmes showing us that the TF finances are murky in terms of how they are finances, private vs public money. Money being funneled in various ways.

So if we are going to have an issue about it with Harry with regards to if its private money or not then really this is a bigger issue in that its bigger than Harry. He has no control or makes decisions on where money Charles might give him is really from...

As you say he is on record saying he is cut off so I dont see why its even discussing that Charles could be giving him money...seems like pointless speculation then

Maybe because the claim that he had been cut off turned out to be a lie?

Like most things that come out of their mouths

I don't see the issue, its not an issue unless its actually known imo

this is a particularly troubling statement!

Well Liam did a shocking job of containment and diplomacy with the recent Thomas Markle crisis. Like a bull in a china shop. So we can expect more hilarious shenanigans in 2026 - but not just with an absent PR team - but a crazy firecracker of a one man band running the show. What a donkey.

When you think things can’t get any worse the H&M panto keeps on giving. I can’t believe the entertainment they provide for free. Keeps me belly laughing. Here’s to more shits and giggles in 2026.

Well feel free to share the information on what monwy and mow much he is giving Harry then seems like a few of us don't know if is he is cut off or not from grtting money

How would I know what Charles is giving Harry at the moment?

You asked why it would be worth discussing it when Harry is “on record” that Charles cut him off. I pointed out that Harry lied when he said that - in fact Charles continued to support him. So Harry’s “on record” statement is irrelevant really, certainly not a reason to shelve the discussion, uncomfortable as it might be to acknowledge that a man in his 40s with many millions at his disposal still couldn’t (and maybe can’t) manage without handouts from his father.

The fact that H left his “ job” and didn’t realise his “ pay” would stop was jaw dropping .
Who resigns or retires and still expects the same salary and perks ?