RF, William, Kate and cruelty to animals

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We don't often hear much about what the RF are up to with blood sports and sports that involve animal cruelty.

There's another thread on her about polo which I had no idea was such a cruel sport.

Yet William's happy to play. I know he believes his life's grift is pretending to save the environment and end poverty.

But in this age of increased awareness, more young people being vegan, or just more people more aware of cruelty, how does the Wales' involvement in cruelty to animals place them for future success as monarchs. Particularly when said younger people don't support them in the same way older people do.

Or is this all going to be underreported, and they'll do the usual shooting, and polo playing, etcetera, widening the gap between their relevance and younger people's expectations.

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Yes, probably better! I did want to say something about the horse thing too, though.

She’s an educator- maybe it’s all the rest of us who are wrong….

Yes - I gave two extremes.

Is it meat eating in general you're against? All unnatural usage of animals?

I eat meat. I don't fundamentally see the difference between eating a pheasant someone shot and a chicken someone bred.

In fact, I'd think that the pheasant at least had a sporting chance (although given the pheasants that turn up in my garden sometimes, actually, perhaps not. My domesticated chickens are probably smarter)

Or between a polo pony, and a sheep-dog - both work hard for human's benefit, and both have risks in that work.

This thread really is curiouser and curiouser, people popping up to explain how furious they are with someone whose name they don’t know 🤔

Love rabbit - very lean you need a bit of chuck steak to make a nice gravy and of course a shortcrust lid

I will never understand why and what kind of minds people have that are cruel to animals in the name of sport or just enjoy killing them.
Horrible sick fuckers.

Is it meat eating in general you're against? All unnatural usage of animals?

I'm not against meat eating. If you read my OP I was asking about how the RF's values and William and Kate's in particular wrt to certain sports are going to clash or not with younger people who are more likely not to eat meat and who already believe monarchy to be irrelevant.

Will their shooting, polo playing etc go against them basically?

It’s been a long day. No need to be rude. Princess of Wales. Feel better.

I actually think it’s a good thing to let children (over a certain age - probably 7/8) learn first hand how the meat we eat end up on our plates.

There’s a huge disconnect between meat packaged in the supermarket and the bucolic view of animals on the farm.

Learning to respect that an animal dies to provide us with food - and that we should treat that animal with humane practices before death and not wasting the meat produced is a good lesson.

My DD grew up on a working farm, and regular deer hunting so it feels normal that W&K would be introducing country practices like this to their kids. What I’d hope is they are using it as a chance to instill those values of respect for the life and death of the animals they are hunting and farming.

Really does make me laugh that people will excuse it when it’s William and Kate but not harry. Strange

Plenty of young people eat meat (75% in the UK). Personally, whilst I'm not into shooting myself, I do appreciate the occasional pheasant from a neighbour. I do remember the market when I was a kid where there was always a hunter with rabbits/pheasants. I keep chickens, get half a lamb or pig from a local farm occasionally, buy venison if I fancy it. I haven't had rabbit in years, but if someone offered I'd happily take it, and my kids would eat it no problem. We know where food comes from.

Sure, if they were galloping around the countryside fox-hunting I wouldn't entirely agree (I think there are better ways to keep the fox population under control). Or if they were needlessly cruel to their horses (which I doubt as the queen loved horses) I would have an issue.

Why are people surprised that the royal family are awful people who only care about themselves and their own wealth?

Spot on. Privileged, cruel, entitled parasites..every single one of them.

Point me to one poster who has said it’s okay for William to play polo and hunt, but that it’s not okay for Harry to do so.

Plenty of young people eat meat

They do, but the % who don't is more than the % of middle aged, or % of older people who don't.

Will that difference, and other differences, have an effect further down the line.

Yes Harry is known for cruelty of polo ponies!

On another thread we were told that polo is unacceptable due to cruelty to the horses, with many apparently well-informed posters giving all manner of harrowing details.

But then that thread was about Harry playing polo....

OK - well, you're just flat wrong there:

• 18-24: ~71% Meat-Eaters, ~18% Flexitarian, ~6% Vegetarian.
• 25-49: ~76% Meat-Eaters, ~12% Flexitarian, ~6% Vegetarian.
• 50-64: ~74% Meat-Eaters, ~16% Flexitarian, ~6% Vegetarian.
• 65+: ~74% Meat-Eaters, ~14% Flexitarian, ~8% Vegetarian.

So do you want to revise your argument?

Yes it's pretty cheap and nasty PR effort, presumably.

Anyway, the op doesn’t really read like concern about animal welfare so much as finding ever new angles to have a go at William, Catherine and their dc.

Oh and it's written by chatgpt 😂

Of course the ponies are all round and shiny and well fed. They need to be strong and fit to play. However, training methods are often brutal, there are frequent injuries and very few ponies have happy retirements on farms.

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You’re right, it doesn’t seem particularly well resourced. Better briefing would protect these posters from the inevitable ridicule when they describe how furious they are with the Duchess of Wales 🤦‍♀️

It’s definitely obvious that this thread was started because the other didn’t go the way the op hoped!
and adding Catherine just seems petty as Meghan wasn’t mentioned on that thread as far as I can tell.

Yes, somebody has definitely got under someone’s skin round here!

Refreshing to see it admitted at least.

Doesn’t make it any less disgusting of course.