Meghan's back in the movies

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15262991/Meghan-Markle-return-acting-Hollywood-new-film.html

Yup, totally agree with all of this. Her mendacious, hypocritical, manipulative actions have got her where she is now - and will also cap how much farther she can go (together with her shocking arrogance and complete lack of talent). She nowhere near as clever as she thinks she is or needs to be. All these LA people whose regard she covets see her for what she is. And they’ll always go to William and Kate first over Meghan and Harry, and ultimately this is what’s killing Harry I believe.

The Royal Foundation point just isn’t relevant to Meghan. She has zero interest in helping anyone unless doing so actually helps her. It’s why you always, always hear about her “good deeds”. The Uvalde photos saw to that reputation being blown once and for all.

I think Meghan’s input into the manifesto was no more than titles and glam appearances. The rest was Harry’s wish.

You see flogging flower sprinkles on the Internet as a reduction in status. She saw visiting an old people’s home in Birmingham as a reduction in status. Horses for course. Would you not rather choose which school to send your children to than be forced to send them to this or that posh boarding school even if the academic results were lower (just an example)? Wouldn’t you rather, if you had an entrepreneurial bent, try and fail at launching your own business than not be allowed to indulge in any commercial endeavours at all without palace approval? I certainly would. I’d happily take customers rejecting my product than men in grey suits telling me I can’t even try because of this or that reason!

Can’t disagree with the point about the money not being hers, personally, but I suspect she’d say she’s earned it by being married to Harry and that it’s a partnership and they share everything equally blah blah.

I think Meghan’s input into the manifesto was no more than titles and glam appearances. The rest was Harry’s wish.

Disagree. To me it was all Meghan but it's off topic so I'll leave it.

You see flogging flower sprinkles on the Internet as a reduction in status. She saw visiting an old people’s home in Birmingham as a reduction in status.

You're being a bit disengenous here I think.

What about being Royal Patron of the National Theatre? Or representing the Monarch on international tours, getting to hang out with Heads of State? Or waving from the Buckingham Palace balcony on Trooping?

Yes, you can roll your eyes at all of this, but you can't say that peddling white label grocery items on the internet, which literally anyone could do, can compare with any of the above for status.

Would you not rather choose which school to send your children to than be forced to send them to this or that posh boarding school even if the academic results were lower (just an example)?

I don't think you're up to date with currrent royal practices. There is no requirement to send the children to a 'posh boarding school'. None of the Wales children do. They may in the future, or they may not. But that will be their parents' choice.

Wouldn’t you rather, if you had an entrepreneurial bent, try and fail at launching your own business than not be allowed to indulge in any commercial endeavours at all without palace approval? I certainly would.

It's not about what anyone might theoretically 'rather'. My point is that nobody is 100% a free agent. Even the most privileged live within constraints. The constraints of a small time influencer are different from those of a senior royal, obviously, but they certainly exist.

I’d happily take customers rejecting my product than men in grey suits telling me I can’t even try because of this or that reason!

It's not 'this or that reason' or 'men in grey suits' who these days are just as likely to be young women from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. If you're a public servant representing the Head of State you can't indulge in commercial activities on the side. It's a fairly common regulation, not even unique to monarchies.

Can’t disagree with the point about the money not being hers, personally, but I suspect she’d say she’s earned it by being married to Harry and that it’s a partnership and they share everything equally blah blah.

But it was you who mentioned 'unearned wealth'. Harry hardly got his money from his hard work and intellectual powers. He got it because of who he was born to. The definition of 'unearned wealth'.

Really, I’ve come back onto these threads because Harry and Meghan were given a bald choice by the late Queen (who may or may not have known who the Kardashians are, but knew enough to listen to those who do - and doesn’t that tell you all you need to know) between doing what Kate and William did today, and what they did in Beverly Hills last night. And they chose the latter. The timing of the party couldn’t have made for a more stark reminder of what Harry has rejected and the life he chose. The Daily Mail front page right now says everything that needs to be said about this couple’s future. It’s a decisive and crystal clear visualization of where these two brothers and their families are and are heading.

She could have done all that though. She chose to be a ‘working ‘ Royal. She could have continued acting, done what she liked and lived a private life. She didn’t even need to move to the UK. No one is forcing anyone to choose a particular school either. She made an active choice to move to the UK and become part of the working RF. She seemed to relish that at the time.

Look, I’m not disagreeing with your fundamental points. I’ve seen your posts on this board under many of my name changes, over the years. I don’t disagree with you but I don’t fully agree either: I do think your viewpoint is exceptionally and exclusively a narrow British one when viewed from this side of the pond. Which is fine (obviously!) as it comes to the RF, less so when it comes to Meghan Markle who is the topic of this thread. I have a different take on every paragraph of yours above, but I don’t think further discussion would be especially interesting (we’d just end up agreeing to disagree) or pointful: we both agree on the bottom line.

I think that when she got married - when she still had her acting agent and PR agent on retainer, when she invited those Hollywood celebrities to her wedding etc - she did whatever she thought best to get her closer to her goal. She didn’t want to continue acting or live a private life 😂😂 - she wanted what she’s got now! She thinks she’s still royal (uses HRH in correspondence, has Duchess emblazoned in her tot bag fgs), but also has all the freedoms that none of the actual royals have. (The schools point was just an example of something all us parents could relate to, I wasn’t saying all royals have no freedom to choose which schools their DC go to, although I think they’re probably restricted for practical/security reasons - poor choice of example by me possibly). If she seemed to relish all her choices at the time - and I didn't think she did, actually - it will have been for a reason. She never wanted a restricted life that didn’t give her more than she “paid”. She doesn’t believe in self-sacrifice. She just doesn’t see the point of it, unless it’s to further her own progress.

Its a great look for the RF who have been protecting Andrew, talking to him, being at family events as well as public events with him.....🤦‍♀️

Eh? How is H+M partying with Zuckerberg a great look for the RF and what does it have to do with Andrew?

I wouldn't bother, @noonames. It's like trying to explain astrophysics to a hamster.

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and twists themselves into knots trying to defend their idol…

🥨 🥨 🥨

Oooo do you feel good picking on other people who have a different opinion to yours?

When have I ever said they are my idol, this you making shit up.

But hey if its good for you then let me meet you at your level and say this about you...a person who thinks hating on two ppl they never met is entertaining.

"Sleazy" is the word, Indianrollerbird - not all of them of course, but a lot

In his old life these are people whose hands Harry would have shaken before moving on quickly, and now he's expected to look cheerful in a roomful of him because it thrills his camera-hungry, fame chasing wife

I wonder if, just occasionally, even he wonders what the hell he's done

Nah, I get more entertainment watching you bend and twist yourself into a human pretzel trying to defend this nonsense 🤣🫣

I think he definitely misses his old life. If not, why would he do those faux royal tours. However, he seems to direct his anger to his brother, father and ‘the men in grey suits’ rather than to the real protagonist, his wife. Most commentators think Wallis Simpson hated her life in exile with Edward but I think MM is absolutely loving it.

I wonder if, just occasionally, even he wonders what the hell he's done

I think he may well have done here! 😂

Just reposting this question to see if there is an explanation forthcoming that a) makes any kind of sense and b) goes beyond the usual tedious and dimwitted whataboutery.

What’s the point of having Beyoncé and Jay-Z queue up to shake hands with you, if you can’t do anything with that, can’t monetize it to buy yourself a big house and designer clothes and a lifestyle that your school friends took for granted but that your parents could never afford?

That’s a perfectly acceptable life goal, if the pursuit of personal wealth is your aim. It’s not exactly compatible though with what the couple profess to want: a life of service.

Remember when their split from the Royal family was confirmed in February 202? Buckingham Palace announced that the Sussexes would not return as working royals, stating that stepping away from the Royal Family's work meant it was not possible to continue the responsibilities of public service. Harry and Meghan responded by saying, "We can all live a life of service. Service is universal". They still tell us they “remain dedicated to building a more compassionate, equitable world for future generations”.

But monetising a connection to Beyoncé and Jay Z to buy a big house and designer clothes and a millionaire lifestyle isn’t exactly building an equitable world, is it?

No it certainly isn’t .

What going on there?

Has he EVER been seen with any mates (old or new) in the 5 years he has been in California?
No night outs, no lunches, baseball games, football games etc. If he does go out, it has to be with Meg. Yet she seems to be able to meet up with her friends fine.

He's cut himself off from his country, all his family and has zero friends. Can’t imagine what his MH is like.
As if any husband wants to sit and watch a sports game with his loud wife and her newest best buddy, screeching like banshees.

He is incredibly stupid though and doesn’t seem to see what an utter mess he’s made of his life.

Didn’t he go snowboarding with Corey Gamble (boyfriend of Kris Jenner and friend of Diddy) without Meghan, instead of going to the Diana Awards?