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What about Beatrice & Eugenie?

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olderandnonthewiser · 19/10/2025 23:26

I’m not sure what to think tbh. On one hand they must be so so mortified; on the other they enjoy all the perks of Royalty and their position in the RF despite their revolting father.

How do you see it?

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jumpingthehighjump · 22/10/2025 09:54

The RF can bring in millions in tourism and soft diplomacy - which we do need as the UK is so small now and fairly irrelevant.

That is a well worn myth. Even Tourist Britain agrees

soft diplomacy yes agreed. They are going nowhere and to be honest I couldn't bear to see the unravelling of getting rid of them

I just want huge changes more transparency less properties and answerable to the government who should be able to question them

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/10/2025 10:38

B&E are every inch real people as much as Andrew, William, Kate, Harry and Meghan and they are all seen as fair game for having their behaviour called out on here.

I judge them both for their own supportive behaviour towards Jeffrey Epstein, not their parents. And that would still be the case if they were Beryl and Edna from Stockport.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/10/2025 10:51

@Birlingsaresnobs I loved that show. Ironically the York family were my favourite characters. Mainly for Katy Wix as Fergie!

RainbowBagels · 22/10/2025 10:57

jumpingthehighjump · 22/10/2025 09:54

The RF can bring in millions in tourism and soft diplomacy - which we do need as the UK is so small now and fairly irrelevant.

That is a well worn myth. Even Tourist Britain agrees

soft diplomacy yes agreed. They are going nowhere and to be honest I couldn't bear to see the unravelling of getting rid of them

I just want huge changes more transparency less properties and answerable to the government who should be able to question them

I agree. They can swan around in their palaces, do their job (meeting dignitaries, waving and hand shaking in return for millions) and still behave approriately. Not try to skim extras off the top, not lobby to get themselves exempted from legislation, not get their secrets hidden away for a century, not hide their money away under labrinthine tax arrangements not open even to the most devious of tax lawyers. Unless you think that its not actually their commitment to duty and public service that keeps them clinging on for dear life, but their unearned power and influence that allows them to grab as much money as they possibly can, and have the entire mechanism of the State covering for them, and without those 'perks' they would walk? There is a middle ground that contains most European monarchies that is apparently beyond the pale for the Windsors and Royal superfans.

Calliopespa · 22/10/2025 11:37

Serenster · 22/10/2025 08:51

Just a reminder - these are actual people you are talking about, not puppets in your (anti) fan fiction.

i don’t know Beatrice and Eugenie. I do however know people who, as adults, have had to grapple with the fact that the loving parents they have know their whole lives have different sides to them that their children have never seen. It’s not a nice place to be in. It’s very easy for an onlooker to cry “cut them off, never see them again or you’re complicit”. In reality life is never that simple or uncomplicated.

Beatrice and Eugenie have probably lived in the public eye long enough to know that everything they do will be criticised, so they may as well just do what they need to, and tell the commentators to comment and be damned…

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This is exactly my view.

DelectableMe · 22/10/2025 11:38

RainbowBagels · 22/10/2025 10:57

I agree. They can swan around in their palaces, do their job (meeting dignitaries, waving and hand shaking in return for millions) and still behave approriately. Not try to skim extras off the top, not lobby to get themselves exempted from legislation, not get their secrets hidden away for a century, not hide their money away under labrinthine tax arrangements not open even to the most devious of tax lawyers. Unless you think that its not actually their commitment to duty and public service that keeps them clinging on for dear life, but their unearned power and influence that allows them to grab as much money as they possibly can, and have the entire mechanism of the State covering for them, and without those 'perks' they would walk? There is a middle ground that contains most European monarchies that is apparently beyond the pale for the Windsors and Royal superfans.

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Have a look at the European monarchies. Seriously. They are not more low key, nor less surrounded by scandal than ours.
That really is a myth!

lifeonmars100 · 22/10/2025 11:38

Birlingsaresnobs · 22/10/2025 09:27

At the risk of sounding like an 8 year old , I can't undertand why these people don't look outwards. Look at their wealth and look at others with nothing. They could do so much. I think the Windsors had them off to a tee.

I loved The Windsors, especially the York lot, the two women who played B and E were hilarious and I always remembering them skipping around singing a song that included the line "and Daddy is friends with a peadophile" . Off to look for a YouTube clip and have a giggle

DelectableMe · 22/10/2025 11:39

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/10/2025 10:38

B&E are every inch real people as much as Andrew, William, Kate, Harry and Meghan and they are all seen as fair game for having their behaviour called out on here.

I judge them both for their own supportive behaviour towards Jeffrey Epstein, not their parents. And that would still be the case if they were Beryl and Edna from Stockport.

This, exactly.

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 11:53

The RF can bring in millions in tourism and soft diplomacy - which we do need as the UK is so small now and fairly irrelevant.

Oh please, let's knock this myth on the head forever. Something else made up to make it look like they actually contribute instead of take all the time.

frenemyissues · 22/10/2025 12:22

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 11:53

The RF can bring in millions in tourism and soft diplomacy - which we do need as the UK is so small now and fairly irrelevant.

Oh please, let's knock this myth on the head forever. Something else made up to make it look like they actually contribute instead of take all the time.

What do they actually ‘take’ . Prince William’s income comes from the vast inherited Ducky of Cornwall. Unless we move to a communist state - we can’t take that off him.

We will have to agree to sugared on the monetary value of the Windsors. There are plenty of sources which estimate the income value of them to the uk. Equally there were a few sources saying it was a myth. Mainly those supporting a republic .

jumpingthehighjump · 22/10/2025 12:31

I would love to know the sources thatquantifies income to the UK. But before that I would like to know how much their security costs. It's kept under wraps but will be a massive amount

stillavid · 22/10/2025 12:50

Totally agree re the security costs and all their vehicles.

I bet Andrew is still driving around in a Range Rover - noticed Beatrice was also in one yesterday and I do not believe for one moment she has married a very rich husband.

There needs to be total transparency. If I were Keir I would be pushing for this now - would be a lovely distraction for him as well so a win win!

I do hope William is going to modernise but that also means reducing the 'financial burden' of the RF too. So security should be somehow covered by themselves really and their vast incomes.

stillavid · 22/10/2025 12:51

And I know you can't pay for the met officers but it would not be beyond the wit of the government/RF to come up with a scheme that was fairer and cost the tax payer less.

Sporadica · 22/10/2025 13:00

I bet Andrew is still driving around in a Range Rover - noticed Beatrice was also in one yesterday and I do not believe for one moment she has married a very rich husband.

Beatrice has a full-time job as VP for Strategy at a high tech firm (Afiniti), as well as running her own AI consultancy and has just launched another software development start-up where she is co-founder and director. Of course there should be scrutiny of all the Royals, but it is possible to make money directly, at least enough to buy a Range Rover, without relying on a rich husband.

PortSalutPlease · 22/10/2025 13:05

Birlingsaresnobs · 20/10/2025 07:58

"working royals" Hilarious.

Are they up at 7 am making the packed lunches, scraping the ice off the car, popping into Tesco for a meal deal?

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is there any reason why not? William and Kate are papped often enough on the school run, and she’s been papped plenty pushing a trolley round the supermarket. I used to work just off the kings
road and it wasn’t an uncommon sight to see the younger royals in Sainsbury’s or to see Kate buying school shoes in John Lewis. Edward’s daughter works at a local garden centre. Eugenie, Beatrice and Peter Philips all have normal jobs.

RainbowBagels · 22/10/2025 13:12

DelectableMe · 22/10/2025 11:38

Have a look at the European monarchies. Seriously. They are not more low key, nor less surrounded by scandal than ours.
That really is a myth!

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Do they have a right to manipulate legislation before it goes to Parliament so that they are exempt from it? Can they access the full force of the law to hide their activities and their wills away? Do they have vast estates that work on the basis of 'commercial market rent' when it comes to charging people but not when it comes to their paying the same rate of tax as everyone else? Can they decide whether they want to pay tax at all? Do they have a National Anthem that is just about one person? Do they, in their Coronation ceremonies ask people to pledge allegiance to them, rather than them pledging allegiance to their 'subjects'? If they do, then they need to change too and the entire system of Monarchy is corrupt and self serving everywhere, not just in the UK. Some of the European Monarchies are at least actually 'modernising and getting rid of some of the HRH's and hangers on, which seems the Windsors spend a lot of time talking about, but not doing.
Luckily, the one good thing to come out of the Andrew scandal is that it looks like more and more MP's are putting pressure on the Speaker of the HoC to discuss and review the financing of the entire RF. They will only 'modernise' if they are forced to in order to ensure the survival of the Monarchy, so hopefully they will be forced by Parliament.

stillavid · 22/10/2025 13:15

GollyI had no idea Beatrice did all that amongst her many many holidays etc - honestly I just do not believe she is making that much money through her job but could of course be wrong.

But I would still bet she didn't pay cash for that car.

stillavid · 22/10/2025 13:18

Just googled afiniti and it says it filed for bankruptcy??? Is it a thriving company that she will be pulling a good income from? I am not being sarcastic just don't know.

lifeonmars100 · 22/10/2025 13:21

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 11:53

The RF can bring in millions in tourism and soft diplomacy - which we do need as the UK is so small now and fairly irrelevant.

Oh please, let's knock this myth on the head forever. Something else made up to make it look like they actually contribute instead of take all the time.

Because of course no tourist come here for the history, the countryside, the beaches, the world famous contributions to music, art and literature, they only visit in the vain hope of catching a glimpse of the royals!

PinkPanther57 · 22/10/2025 13:25

Sporadica · 22/10/2025 13:00

I bet Andrew is still driving around in a Range Rover - noticed Beatrice was also in one yesterday and I do not believe for one moment she has married a very rich husband.

Beatrice has a full-time job as VP for Strategy at a high tech firm (Afiniti), as well as running her own AI consultancy and has just launched another software development start-up where she is co-founder and director. Of course there should be scrutiny of all the Royals, but it is possible to make money directly, at least enough to buy a Range Rover, without relying on a rich husband.

Does she have a tech background?

KnickerlessParsons · 22/10/2025 13:28

GollyI had no idea Beatrice did all that amongst her many many holidays etc - honestly I just do not believe she is making that much money through her job but could of course be wrong.
But I would still bet she didn't pay cash for that car

who does pay cash for a car TBF? Most people either get a loan or lease them.

ThePoshUns · 22/10/2025 13:31

I should imagine the RF have a very good leasing agreement with JLR

viques · 22/10/2025 13:34

LBFseBrom · 21/10/2025 09:07

I just looked at the news online and the Daily HateMail is having a field day with this, hyperbole fueled by speculation, 'sources close to', scum journalists.

Do we really have to add to it?

At least they are giving Meghan a rest today.

Poor Meghan. She must be having kittens at the news that someone can be stripped of their Duchess title.

“What? Are you pranking me? So Harry’s dad could just like wake up one morning, and like say I can’t be Duchess Meghan any more? How is that fair? And what about the kids, could he do the same to them. Sooooo unfair, doesn’t he like realise I have already secured all the possible PrinceArchie, Princess Lilibet domain names for them to use in the future, what the fuck am I supposed to do with them if my kids have just got like ordinary names like any other kids? And what about my future skin care and fashion ranges , I’ve got the advanced marketing plans drafted out and they ALL include the words Duchess or Royal.”

DelectableMe · 22/10/2025 13:35

RainbowBagels · 22/10/2025 13:12

Do they have a right to manipulate legislation before it goes to Parliament so that they are exempt from it? Can they access the full force of the law to hide their activities and their wills away? Do they have vast estates that work on the basis of 'commercial market rent' when it comes to charging people but not when it comes to their paying the same rate of tax as everyone else? Can they decide whether they want to pay tax at all? Do they have a National Anthem that is just about one person? Do they, in their Coronation ceremonies ask people to pledge allegiance to them, rather than them pledging allegiance to their 'subjects'? If they do, then they need to change too and the entire system of Monarchy is corrupt and self serving everywhere, not just in the UK. Some of the European Monarchies are at least actually 'modernising and getting rid of some of the HRH's and hangers on, which seems the Windsors spend a lot of time talking about, but not doing.
Luckily, the one good thing to come out of the Andrew scandal is that it looks like more and more MP's are putting pressure on the Speaker of the HoC to discuss and review the financing of the entire RF. They will only 'modernise' if they are forced to in order to ensure the survival of the Monarchy, so hopefully they will be forced by Parliament.

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Look them up, seriously. Start with the scandals surrounding the Norwegian monarchy, then the Spanish - have a look at King Juan Carlos. Then you could move on to the Grimaldis of Monaco.
They're not squeaky clean. Idolising European monarchies is common on here. I think it's a mistaken belief.
However, your opinion.