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What about Beatrice & Eugenie?

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olderandnonthewiser · 19/10/2025 23:26

I’m not sure what to think tbh. On one hand they must be so so mortified; on the other they enjoy all the perks of Royalty and their position in the RF despite their revolting father.

How do you see it?

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Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 14:58

EverybodyLTB · 20/10/2025 22:36

Oh yes, all that abuse and rape made 16-17 year old Virginia so “worldly wise”

Shame that 20 year old university educated princesses couldn’t keep up and remained worldly un-wise. Come on now. B & E are making choices at this stage. Choices of privileged adults. They might not have street smarts but they know their own minds and have been educated and lived away from home at the point when they went to see Uncle Jeff home from horrid old prison.

It probably did. VG by her account had had a dreadful life. I am sure she had more street smarts than 2 spoilt princesses! If mummy told them uncle Jeffrey had suffered a grave injustice they probably wouldn’t have questioned it much, especially as he was the family benefactor!

These young women could not have been more polarised in their life experiences!

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:02

Blosheen · 21/10/2025 07:55

A nearly 40 yo calling her mother “mumsy” is plain weird to me.

It may be to you. That doesn’t make it “weird”. My 20 something DDs call me “mumsy” occasionally. I’ll let them know they’re weird then!! FGS!

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 15:14

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/10/2025 14:43

I agree with you entirely.

Also just for the purposes of doubt in case it seems I'm singling B&E out unfairly, I judge anyone who continued to associate with Epstein after his conviction. Be they Trump, Peter Mandleson or the 9th and 10th in line to the throne.

Yes. It's all messages...Charles wears a blue and yellow tie,that's support for Ukraine. Brooches have hidden meanings.

So Beatrice running the pap gauntlet is quite obviously her defiantly supporting both her parents
I expected no different to be honest and my only faint hope is she went there to give them a bollocking about what they have done to her and her sister
But if that was the case I think she would have gone in incognito

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/10/2025 15:21

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 15:14

Yes. It's all messages...Charles wears a blue and yellow tie,that's support for Ukraine. Brooches have hidden meanings.

So Beatrice running the pap gauntlet is quite obviously her defiantly supporting both her parents
I expected no different to be honest and my only faint hope is she went there to give them a bollocking about what they have done to her and her sister
But if that was the case I think she would have gone in incognito

And possibly not looked so chipper afterwards.

On the odd occasion I've had to tear a strip of a family member or been involved in a full scale row with one I don't normally drive away grinning like a Cheshire cat.

But then we're all different after all.

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:28

EverybodyLTB · 21/10/2025 08:33

Of course she can, but it doesn’t look good at all when she is also considered a public figure and uses the title of princess of this country.

When your parents are accused of sanctioning a convicted pedophile, being a rapist, selling state secrets, lying to the BBC, public and Buckingham palace, and taking money from international criminals…. The optics are less than ideal. I’d be saying by text only “what the fuck is wrong with you, no I’m not visiting, and no I don’t want my kids around you” and I say this as someone who has put boundaries down for my family for way less.

The £750,000 of shady money that went to Beatrice via that Turkish fraud scandal, was either actually taken willingly by Beatrice, OR her parents dropped her in it and said it was for her. Either way they’ve got her into some murky shit and she’s a grown up. She does need to pick a side - an honest life or her parents. The royals seem to think they can live in dirt and shadows while being regaled by the public and live among pomp and ceremony. It’s unbearable to watch anymore.

Well we don’t know what the purpose of her visit was, and it doesn’t look that ‘social’ as she didn’t bring her children.

I think B and E need to distance themselves, certainly in public. I know they are a close family but I wouldn’t want my children around them. I wonder how their sons in law feel?

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:31

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/10/2025 08:54

"Under siege" 🤣🤣🤣.

AKA holed up their 30 room mansion with god knows how many acres to walk around unseen whilst rightly being criticised for being BFFs with a convicted sex offender at the very least.

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And the eyes of the press trained on them! They would be eaten alive if they stuck a nose out now! Have a titter of wit!

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:33

Birlingsaresnobs · 21/10/2025 09:01

The royals seem to think they can live in dirt and shadows while being regaled by the public and live among pomp and ceremony. It’s unbearable to watch anymore

I visited a museum yesterday and there was much ooing and ahing at photos of the Royals. Turns my stomach.

Best avoid museums with royal pictures if you are so squeamish 😀

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:40

Calliopespa · 21/10/2025 11:47

And that may be true.

Or it may not. She wasn't "obviously" going to support her parents.

She might have wanted to rage, shout, cry, berate them and demand answers face to face. And she would have known she would be seen!

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:48

Shetlands · 21/10/2025 13:10

I think it was a very poor decision by Beatrice to visit her parents yesterday, which could only ever be construed as supportive of them. Maybe she's so privileged and shielded from reality that she can't believe her parents have done anything wrong. She's either stupid or she doesn't give a damn how her actions are interpreted (or both!).

That’s nonsense. You are making as assumption that you can’t possibly know. She
could equally have gone to have it out with them, or might have wanted to know if she was implicated. She might have had concerns about their state of mind. In her shoes, face to face conversations are a wise choice. Let’s face it, they could hardly go to her right now!!

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 15:53

Well... I know if I was in her position I would have got myself in there and out of there without anyone knowing.

NewAgeNewMe · 21/10/2025 15:59

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 15:53

Well... I know if I was in her position I would have got myself in there and out of there without anyone knowing.

Yes I think I’d have tried to get in unseen. How possible that is, I don’t know.

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 16:01

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 15:53

Well... I know if I was in her position I would have got myself in there and out of there without anyone knowing.

You’re not in her position, She is. For all you know she might have been too angry to care? Time will tell what they do. They at least should never let themselves be seen in public with A and S ever again.

Someone mentioned that they shouldn’t be seen at Sandringham at Christmas. If they don’t go, everyone who wants to think the worst of them will assume they are supporting their parents at RL. Beatrice was meant to go abroad to her ILs last and wasn’t able to travel. Maybe they are intending to go this year anyway?

Wonder if the ILs are concerned about what their sons have married into? Though to be fair, a lot of this is not new!

Calliopespa · 21/10/2025 16:31

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:48

That’s nonsense. You are making as assumption that you can’t possibly know. She
could equally have gone to have it out with them, or might have wanted to know if she was implicated. She might have had concerns about their state of mind. In her shoes, face to face conversations are a wise choice. Let’s face it, they could hardly go to her right now!!

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And in reality, if she had gone hiding in the back of a van, or some of the other suggestions on here, and was seen, can't you just imagine the drama on here! 😂I am not sure that if she needed to see them, the way she did it was so out of order

She might have gone for any reason.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/10/2025 16:38

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:31

And the eyes of the press trained on them! They would be eaten alive if they stuck a nose out now! Have a titter of wit!

Well they're going to have to put their noses out at some point unless they plan to stay self appointed hostages inside Royal Lodge forever and I can't imagine that the press pack will be going anywhere in a hurry because they're all going to want the money shot of them "breaking cover" on their front page.

Hopefully they'll pop out soon for a pint of milk, keep their eyes front and maybe even try and look a tiny bit sad (should induce some sympathy from the die hard royalists), not grin away cheerily. The press can get their shot, A&S can return to exile and life can carry on.

CrimsonStoat · 21/10/2025 16:59

jumpingthehighjump · 21/10/2025 13:30

I do think everything the royals do are giving out a message and this was just another one.

I agree with this.

And loud and clear the message is that they'll do what they can to make it look like they're doing something, but in reality they'll do nothing very much.

I honestly don't believe they as a whole think Andrew has done anything other than be a bit sleazy.

I'm sure they don't view Virginia Giuffre as a victim of anything.

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 17:50

CrimsonStoat · 21/10/2025 16:59

I agree with this.

And loud and clear the message is that they'll do what they can to make it look like they're doing something, but in reality they'll do nothing very much.

I honestly don't believe they as a whole think Andrew has done anything other than be a bit sleazy.

I'm sure they don't view Virginia Giuffre as a victim of anything.

On what evidence are you basing your wild assumption?

KnickerlessParsons · 21/10/2025 17:54

Calliopespa · 21/10/2025 11:50

Or to try to get the truth.

Or to tell PA to man up and talk to the police about what he knows and what happened. He is innocent after all 🧐

Shetlands · 21/10/2025 18:20

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 15:48

That’s nonsense. You are making as assumption that you can’t possibly know. She
could equally have gone to have it out with them, or might have wanted to know if she was implicated. She might have had concerns about their state of mind. In her shoes, face to face conversations are a wise choice. Let’s face it, they could hardly go to her right now!!

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It's not nonsense at all.

We don't need to know why she went there in order to consider it poor judgement in terms of how it would look. Her parents have terrible judgement about all sorts of things and often appear tone deaf to public opinion so maybe the apple didn't fall from the tree.

EdithBond · 21/10/2025 18:20

I imagine they feel how most people would if their father was publicly accused of sex offences, had paid a huge sum to settle a case and explained a friendly stay with a convicted child sex offender as feeling it was the ‘honourable’ thing to do.

Most wealthy and privileged people care most about their (family) reputation.

Of course, they shouldn’t be judged for him being a wrong un. But if they keep being seen together it does come across as refusing to take it seriously, as it would if it were anyone who visited their dad when he’s admitted been accused of the above.

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 19:24

Shetlands · 21/10/2025 18:20

It's not nonsense at all.

We don't need to know why she went there in order to consider it poor judgement in terms of how it would look. Her parents have terrible judgement about all sorts of things and often appear tone deaf to public opinion so maybe the apple didn't fall from the tree.

She’s probably got enough to deal with never mind giving a shit how it looks!

Rosscameasdoody · 21/10/2025 20:06

Tiredofbullsit · 21/10/2025 17:50

On what evidence are you basing your wild assumption?

PA asked the Met police bodyguard to look for dirt on VG. That’s a good starting point. Doesn’t exactly scream concern does it ? He maintains he doesn’t remember ever meeting her so why did he want dirt on her ?

Rosscameasdoody · 21/10/2025 20:35

Cynic17 · 20/10/2025 13:49

There are many charges we could levy against Andrew, but "paedophile" is not one of them. I am yet to see any suggestion of this, let alone evidence.
Accuracy is important.

I wouldn’t be so sure. In May of this year, a former aide of Andrew’s - John Bryan - was secretly filmed telling a journalist that despite him working very hard to improve Andrews’ PR, the prince actually admitted to him that he had knowingly slept with underage girls. He referred to it as ‘bedding baby beauties’. If that’s true, it’s revolting. Only time will tell if we can add the charge of paedophilia to the accusations.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/10/2025 20:39

ruffler45 · 20/10/2025 13:54

And you think money solves everything......

PA and his mother clearly did !!

Birlingsaresnobs · 21/10/2025 20:41

I always felt sad for B with her Hanoverian face.

CathyorClaire · 21/10/2025 20:41

one of them is patron and founder of a slavery and trafficking charity.

Interestingly enough the 2023 accounts for the charity were 98 days late in filing and the 2024 accounts show the bulk of the expenditure going on some knees up gala night with the rest of the income/expenditure carried over to the next set of accounts.

Looking forward to seeing 'em 🙂