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Iwanttoliveinagardencentre · 18/10/2025 08:22

Phoenix1Arisen · 18/10/2025 08:06

It feels to me that he has been scapegoated to a very high degree and until the many other wealthy men who also enjoyed friendships with Epstein are similarly hounded, that will continue to be my viewpoint.

I am happy to see him punished, even though this title thing is in no way sufficient, but I do agree that some of those involved are being used to distract from others.

Andrew, Sarah Fegusson, Peter Mandelson and even Ghislaine Maxwell herself. All British.

No rich Americans are under the same scrutiny. This is not a coincidence.

Melonjuice · 18/10/2025 08:25

My Facebook this morning and saw a load of hate towards Megan from various middle-aged women. I wonder why they concentrate on Megan rather than this disgusting individual. I’m also a bit miffed as to why the Queen and King Charles brushed it under the carpet when it was found out

What with all the antics of the other royal family over the years, alleged cheating, toe sucking, Andrew’s paedophilia/ sexual desires for young girls / Epstein loving / Charles cheating and resulting damage to his sons , Williams alleged cheating , other royal crap , someone asking about the colour of Harry’s baby , at least Harry and Megan are faithful to each other ! 😂

TheaBrandt1 · 18/10/2025 08:29

Listened to Andrew Lownies thorough and well researched book. The man is a monster. He is a one man argument against royalty

TheaBrandt1 · 18/10/2025 08:31

The Megan hate is weird - misogynistic and disturbing. She’s mildly annoying but what’s she actually done?

The book discloses that William describes Andrew as a “tosser” and Harry has quite literally punched him in the face for slagging off Meghan. Made me warm to them slightly more actually.

NewAgeNewMe · 18/10/2025 08:47

Iwanttoliveinagardencentre · 18/10/2025 08:22

I am happy to see him punished, even though this title thing is in no way sufficient, but I do agree that some of those involved are being used to distract from others.

Andrew, Sarah Fegusson, Peter Mandelson and even Ghislaine Maxwell herself. All British.

No rich Americans are under the same scrutiny. This is not a coincidence.

I’ve said similar before. And I’d like to know why? Not that I’m excusing Andrew but he isn’t the only vile man involved.

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 08:59

NautilusLionfish · 18/10/2025 08:02

Why? They have committed no crime. You can't compare leaving the RF willingly or writing about his experience growing in it to abusing under aged girls or selling access to a hostile state agent.
It's ridiculous the two are seen as comparable at all.

I'm not saying they have done that crime, but they gave done things worthy of having their titles striped.

NautilusLionfish · 18/10/2025 09:04

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 08:59

I'm not saying they have done that crime, but they gave done things worthy of having their titles striped.

Like?

AmusedCat · 18/10/2025 09:04

ShesTheAlbatross · 17/10/2025 19:10

I don’t think there’s necessarily anything further, I think this is due to the emails that came out the other day.

And the impending publication of the Virginia Guiffre book

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 18/10/2025 10:14

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 08:59

I'm not saying they have done that crime, but they gave done things worthy of having their titles striped.

We are going to need to you say what they have done that’s worthy of having their titles stripped in your mind. You can’t say someone in the RF deserves to have their titles stripped and not say why they deserve it.

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 12:27

NautilusLionfish · 18/10/2025 09:04

Like?

Read all the threads on here for a start

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 12:31

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 18/10/2025 10:14

We are going to need to you say what they have done that’s worthy of having their titles stripped in your mind. You can’t say someone in the RF deserves to have their titles stripped and not say why they deserve it.

I can because I just did 😄 there's more than enough evidence on threads on the website. I'm not going to repeat them for you

NautilusLionfish · 18/10/2025 12:36

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 12:27

Read all the threads on here for a start

Most of them based on dailyhate campaign. But to be honest am with you . Any Royal who has made any mistake should be stripped. The queen should have been stripped for her role enabling the continuation of colonialism. And for enabling Andrew. Charles for his moral failures. The whole institution should be scrapped. At least in a Republic we can vote our leaders in and out. In a monarchy we are stuck with multigenerational idiots

ToughTimeLately · 18/10/2025 12:40

I thought it was because Virginia Guffries memoirs are just about to be published and I take it he’ll be exposed for the vile man he is.

Unfortunately his victim took her own life, but before this she wasn’t able to tell what happened as she was paid an amount by Prince Ed to keep quiet.

I take it that since Virginia is no longer with us, the book can be published.

ToughTimeLately · 18/10/2025 12:43

I thought you were born a Prince, end of, and you can’t change it.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 18/10/2025 12:43

@Laserwho- nope, lots of reasons why they should be cut off from family occasions, but being stripped of titles is not justified by being rude to your family. It would require criminal or having brought the uk into danger/disgrace (and that’s the country, not individuals in the family being embarrassed.)

So what have they done to deserve their titles being removed. If you don’t feel comfortable saying, link to a thread where it’s actually discussed not “aren’t they terrible being mean about their family!”

you must be able to think of something.

BurntBroccoli · 18/10/2025 12:47

Feel so sorry for Eugenie and Beatrice. Will they keep their Princess title?

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 13:54

@BurntBroccoli
Yes they will.
I don't feel one bit sorry for them.

Falseknock · 18/10/2025 13:57

Laserwho · 18/10/2025 12:31

I can because I just did 😄 there's more than enough evidence on threads on the website. I'm not going to repeat them for you

They've done nothing wrong then.🙄

Saveusename · 18/10/2025 14:12

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 13:54

@BurntBroccoli
Yes they will.
I don't feel one bit sorry for them.

It’s not their fault and it must be horrendous to have such publicly disgusting and embarrassing parents. It must be horrendous for any child to hear the allegations about Andrew and especially on such a public scale.

Abra1t · 18/10/2025 14:15

NautilusLionfish · 18/10/2025 12:36

Most of them based on dailyhate campaign. But to be honest am with you . Any Royal who has made any mistake should be stripped. The queen should have been stripped for her role enabling the continuation of colonialism. And for enabling Andrew. Charles for his moral failures. The whole institution should be scrapped. At least in a Republic we can vote our leaders in and out. In a monarchy we are stuck with multigenerational idiots

She reigned during the dismantlement of empire, from India's independence in 1947 and concluding with the handover of Hong Kong in 1997.

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 14:53

@Saveusename
They have profited all their lives from their parents pillaging of the public purse and the charities they purported to support.
They were adults when the revelations about Andrew and his friendship with Epstein became public knowledge.
Do you not agree that was the moment to take a principled stand and go no contact with him? And indeed their mother?
They didn’t. They are all as bad as each other.

Saveusename · 18/10/2025 16:46

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 14:53

@Saveusename
They have profited all their lives from their parents pillaging of the public purse and the charities they purported to support.
They were adults when the revelations about Andrew and his friendship with Epstein became public knowledge.
Do you not agree that was the moment to take a principled stand and go no contact with him? And indeed their mother?
They didn’t. They are all as bad as each other.

I reverse my judgement for Andrew and Sarah, not their daughters.

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 17:30

In fairness to Beatrice and Eugenie - look at their family.
Their grandmother- Head of State, their grandfather- head of the family, their uncle the heir to the throne - all turned a blind eye, closed their ears and exercised every ounce of authority they could to deny and excuse Andrew’s behaviour. It’s not surprising that B and E are as lacking in moral fortitude as the rest of the family.

EmpressSisi · 18/10/2025 18:24

Posted this on the other thread but thought it was still relevant. Andrew Lownie claims (via The Times) that the decision for Andrew to fall on his sword came after pressure from William and the government.

The Times

Prince Andrew gives up his HRH title
CrimsonStoat · 18/10/2025 20:21

ShenandoahRiver · 18/10/2025 17:30

In fairness to Beatrice and Eugenie - look at their family.
Their grandmother- Head of State, their grandfather- head of the family, their uncle the heir to the throne - all turned a blind eye, closed their ears and exercised every ounce of authority they could to deny and excuse Andrew’s behaviour. It’s not surprising that B and E are as lacking in moral fortitude as the rest of the family.

It's also not surprising that they may not have believed it for a long time. After all, the press behaved dreadfully towards the sisters when they were younger. I wouldn't blame them for paying no attention and shutting out the media noise.

I imagine it's also a difficult thing to come to terms with - your beloved parents, especially your father, doing terrible things.

When Andrew did his interview, I think Beatrice was in complete denial about the accusations and was convinced he could explain things away. Wouldn't we all want to do that with a loved one?

Their grifting in the Middle East is no worse than what the entire family get up to - which is a problem in itself, but not really something for which they can be singled out.

The whole monarchy is corrupt to a degree, but in this instance I think it's unfair to say the sisters are as bad as their parents just because they might have found it difficult to accept what their father in particular was like.

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