Prince Harry is relevant imo

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He's the son of the King.

And will be the brother of the next King

we grew up with him around during QE2's reign

the discord on here for Harry is becoming laughable. Posters desperate to dig him out at every opportunity

Id welcome him back and I'm sure there are others that would too. Not on MN though.

Interesting. It is telling that Kate and William did so many engagements this week, compared to their usual nothing for weeks on end. It would have been less obvious if they had just carried on as usual.
Also, its Williams business if he doesn't want to speak to Harry again, but its not up to him whether his father wants to have a personal relationship with Harry and see his other grandchildren. It is highly unlikely Harry will be back doing a Royal role, and even if he is, its up to Charles. William can kick him out again when he's King. It doesn't reflect well on him if he really is throwing a strop because his father and his brother have had a meeting. They are allowed to do what they want. They are both adults.

I don't think you can use David as an example. he was never a working royal. he and his sister never had the amount of public interest that H has had.

It was more about the LOS . David Linley was 5th when he was born and I am old enough to remember seeing lots of photos of him, Sarah , Charles etc as children .
The point I was trying to make ( obviously not very well) is that the Wales children are growing up and once they start having families, Harry will become a footnote.

Thank you, @bluegreygreen, for that archive link, I did find that interesting. I guess Harry will always be a sore spot for William but he'd probably do better to hide it and rise above it.

It's not unusual to see W & C do small flurries of engagements but they'd also be wiser to keep it up until the kids' half term. Maybe they will.

As for Harry, maybe he has actually got better advisors that he's actually listening to. As long as he doesn't attempt an official return, I think he could improve his profile in the UK. I wonder when he'll next visit.

Interesting. It is telling that Kate and William did so many engagements this week, compared to their usual nothing for weeks on end. It would have been less obvious if they had just carried on as usual.

Of course, 18 months ago, the DM headline was that KC3 had told the PoW he should spend time with his family, as he would have years to do the royal stuff. Now, all the criticism is that he isn't doing enough.

So is the change with the DM, or the King?

Check the comments though - the vast majority are negative towards Harry (& partly Charles) and positive towards William.

It's the same on all the DM Royal articles, and on their YouTube videos.

If you look on Instagram , William does a lot of stuff that doesn’t generate headlines. It tends to only be when Catherine is out and about.
I don’t think the Wales put everything on the Court circular .

The children probably went back to school this week, which is why they did more.
Don't bother looking at a conspiracy theory when there's an obvious reason.

But on past experience if there had been then it's far more likely to have come from H&M than KC.

Looking at it logically, what would KC have to gain from putting out negative stories about W&C? Nothing. If they're doing something wrong then he should be dealing with it privately, which makes him look weak.

Now who has put out negative stories about them in the past, and might gain from a drop in their popularity? Really hard question there ...

Agree - have mentioned this on other threads.

There is also a lot of Royal Foundation and Duchy work that doesn't appear on the circular.

Edit: in response to @Mylovelygreendress's comment

I agree that KC has nothing to gain by making any negative feelings about W public.

Either H, or his team, are stirring or a journalist is. The media may be relatively supportive of H because he's great clickbait and W is not.

I think William would be wise to 'reconcile' on some level with Harry - keep your enemies close etc.

There is an article in the times today which looks interesting but it is behind the paywall.

The press just want Harry back for the drama and clicks surely.

I’m afraid I’m seeing the same. I don’t want to believe it because it’s despicable if true, but Charles has form for avoiding confrontation and instead using the media to try and get his own way. Camilla’s rehabilitation being a prime example.

I do hope this isn’t the case here.

KC3 won't be around for that much longer he has to do this to be popular. William and Catherine won't have to do that much for those who love the royals to be supporting them fully. They are the future of the monarchy. How long the British monarchy has left will be up to them really.
But they're not snakes.

I would say William has already tried this. And even at The Queen's funeral showed a united front but had all private conversations made public by Harold so the drawbridge is now uptight. And I don't blame him.

Harry is that embarrassing relative everyone has that they feel they must invite to weddings but hope he won't turn up and make a scene, trying to make it all about him and some random thing that happened a couple of decades ago.

That is the only relevance he has to the UK nowadays.

Not everyone in the UK agrees with that

I am glad he came over and I hope he had a good meeting with his dad

I agree. If they are both prepared to talk as father and son, who are we to say that's wrong? Charles is elderly and surely anyone in his position would want to make peace?

Regarding Prince Harry's visit - in my opinion it was a masterclass in active but compassionate engagements. He doesn't need to be a 'working royal' to accomplish what he's achieved this week. And also visiting Ukraine, obviously with the agreement of the British Government as Yvette Cooper was there too. My opinion is that he seems to forge genuine connections, follow things through and do good.

The Royals have a problem with Invictus Games in Birmingham, inasmuch that some rapprochement has to be found with Harry, because if they snubbed the Invictus Games then they would be seen to be snubbing our injured veterans.

I think Prince William,as the heir to the throne, is given a very easy ride by people. He was absolutely in Harry's shadow this week and got the media backlash accordingly.

I doubt William is doing Royal foundation or Dutchy work himself. He hasxà large staff of experts to do that. . Apparently he's not averse to WhatsApping his staff about the Dutchy ( something which enriches him personally to the tune of billions and Apparently doesnt include telling him how to do his tax return) at the weekends, tearing himself away from endlessly gazing at his children but cannot do even an afternoon of ' work' for the Monarchy while they are on holiday. The behind the scenes stuff is not their purpose. They have no expertise. Like it or not, they are baubles. They need to be seen hand shaking and waving. If they don't want tobdo it then there will be little interest in their other stuff.

He visits different parts of the Duchy each week.

There have been a number of articles over recent months discussing improvements both needed and now being made in the Duchy. The articles have included business people, farmers and tenants discussing that the PoW is present and involved.

Of course, stillavid, and the remaining fans want him back for ... well, I'm not sure what exactly?

Wasn't the move supposed to be an utter triumph, with their hitherto unappreciated talents bringing the sort of success which would show others how it's done?

He visits different parts of the Duchy each week

He goes to Cornwall every week? Or Isles of Scilly? Everything is in the SW so doubtful. How strange there's never anything in the CC saying that

Interesting article @bluegreygreen . Re. KC’s workloads vs William’s. One key difference between them is that W&C appear to be hands-on parents in a way that KC never was. He probably doesn’t understand why they want to spend time with their children instead of leaving them with nannies.

I imagine that Harry coming over was emotional for William and it’ll take longer for him to forgive Harry’s hurtful comments about Kate, for example. Whatever KC thinks, it might be best that the brothers keep their distance until they’re both ready to reconcile.

It is hugely ironic that after talking about “freedom” and escaping, Harry now seems eager to reconnect with the RF and the UK. Perhaps it’s not so awful after all?!

Yes, @Puzzledandpissedoff, it seems that the UK and Royal life ain’t so bad after all!!

According to Charlotte Griffiths , Operation Bring Back Harry started a year ago so it has taken a year for him to have a 30 minute meeting with his father ?
Maybe next year he can have a full hour ?