Harry meeting the king just now

[Justanotherdramalama]

I think he's going cap in hand to ask for money. I really hope he's not got the nerve to ask to come back!

Thank you

My point exactly

Are you new to the RF Board ? I am not being snide but if you are new you might want to look back over some old threads .

Of course there's two sides to every story, however we can't ignore how much Harry has embarrassed himself and sold himself to the highest bidder.

But many of us think this is standard royal behaviour.

Well you’ve kind of made my point. You haven’t seen or read the stuff that caused all the problems and you’re still not bothered about whether he comes back or not. People who have, really are bothered. So where is his support going to come from?

From people who don't feel as strongly as you perhaps?

I would expect supporters to feel as strongly as me. They’d need to, otherwise it’s not really support. but apathy.

I don't think what Harry has done is standard by any means. He was born royal and then went on to decimate and lambasted each and everything about the UK and its people, he's so ungrateful it's unreal and just shows how much the royal machine was covering his arse.

I doubt the people who frequent the Mumsnet Royal Family board are representative of the general public. Most people couldnt care less.

People who have, really are bothered

I just don't think these people are as important as they think they are amongst the wider population if that makes sense.

So where is his support going to come from?

Do the Royals need support to do what they want? I think if Camilla the mistress who became Queen can be reframed in the public eye then so can Harry. You can disagree though.

Aussie media was one of top stories. Focus on reconciliation and stated hope meeting with William is next 🤮
also said meeting was an hour
William's schedule clashed with Harry's - as if.

@Justanotherdramalama I think it's very common for Royals to embarrass themselves, air their dirty laundry & use their positions to their advantage.

He was born royal and then went on to decimate and lambasted each and everything about the UK and its people

I do think it's fascinating that some are so angry & really see it as a personal rejection/attack. But I wouldn't want to born Royal & have all the crap that comes with it.

Agree with this. I also hope Harry stops betraying the trust of his family.

@basinbasin yes Camellia was a mistress along with others as did Diana have lovers...

Agree with you re the good pr spin though.

Diana trashed the Royal Family, called them ‘The Firm’ and questioned Charles’ suitability to be king. Worse than anything Harry said. But she’s treated like a saint.

@Justanotherdramalama I'm not judging her, I just remember so much negative press about her & lots of the public saying she would never be our Queen etc. The PR rehabilitation has been excellent.

@Untailored and charles criticised his mums parenting. That's why I always say Harry is just doing what was normal for him.

The ‘royal’ family don’t have to convince the public of anything. They will do what they like.
Did you forget the Camilla affair,, Andrew Epstein, Philip affairs.

I find it laughable that people think their opinions matter. I doubt the majority of people care either way. The royalists might but they will still stand in the rain bobbing their knees for a glimpse of the family.

I actually think William himself would rather shut down the royal family altogether too. He appears to have little to no interest in it.
I’d say the whole thing is a complete pain in the arse for him. He’s probably deeply envious when he sees his wildly rich friends having a lovely life, not having to answer to anyone or hide their numerous sailing and skiing holidays.

I don’t think they have. It’s just normal family stuff.

Except they aren't a normal family.

Yes the Royals are masters at PR puff, and have a press who will publish any old rubbish about them in return for an invitation to a slap up dinner at the Palace or some pictures of the kids.
I doubt William will allow it to happen though. I suspect what is more likely is that Harry will just do what his cousins do, and turn up for family occasions and to do his own charity things as he does now, but with an added bit of time with Charles. . I doubt Meghan will come back to the UK again, unless its for Charles' funeral, and I doubt she'd wave the kids off for Harry to take them so Harry, divorce or not will be living in the US for the foreseeable, reunion or not. Doesn't really leave much room for ribbon cutting.

No family is “normal”

But I know what you mean.

Do we know if Harry has tried to meet William?

Or is it tittle tattle from supposed sources close to the men?

Really it's twelve o'clock? It's common knowledge that the royal family shit themselves if the public go against them and then change when push comes to shove. There pr is amazing and can spin out anything almost. I personally think William does have a deep sense of history and culture but is waiting his time so he can change things. You could say he's showing us now, how he will run the UK royal family... in the shadows.

The people who frequent the MN RF board are as representative as anyone. People have lives, interests and jobs away from MN!

I agree that I feel Megan wasn’t welcomed by William and especially Catherine. I think they looked down on Megan as an actress.