Uncle Dickie, Charles uncle

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Daily Mail and other 'media' coverage of the royal family are often quoted on here as being in the know. Their reporting is much discussed and taken as factual. Why have they failed to cover, along with other British media, the news of the past few days about Mountbatten? The allegations have been much talked about for years and now we hear first hand from those who suffered.
Perhaps this explains the reluctance to push Andrew too much?
What other skeletons are being hidden?
Have just read some of Andrew Smyths, one of those abused, story and it is truly heartbreaking.
I have tried to post a screenshot of Suzanne Breen's article in the Belfast Telegraph on here, not sure if it is posting but well worth checking out.
There are other articles posted elsewhere.

Know nothing about the allegations but did meet him and his daughter Lady Pamela Hicks when I was a child.

The Daily Mail and others don't cover difficult stories because they don't want their sources of Royal stories to dry up.

Found a link similar to Belfast Telegraph article. Trigger warning! CSA!
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/i-just-lived-with-it-and-didnt-say-nothing-to-anybody-one-boys-journey-from-magic-to-misery-as-mountbatten-loomed-large-at-kincora-childrens-home/a1700032682.html

Probably one of the worst cover ups pertaining to the royal family in recent memory.
And the RUC failed to act on claims of abuse in the 1970s.

I find it bizarre when the media refer to him as "QEII's second cousin" rather than Philip's Uncle. That's who he was rather than her distant rellie - Philip's uncle who basically became his father figure when his parents pretty much abandoned him.

And I don't think the media bother with this story much because of the other people involved. Not the royals. The politicians and other high profile men, some likely still alive, who'd sue them if they don't have absolute proof of their allegations (which is impossible to get).

I think they'll only go after people when they're all dead. Which is frankly shit for the victims.

I very much agree with you IdaGlossop

To me this very much points to a “special arrangement”

He raped 11 year old boys.
Wonder what the King thinks about that - given that his own eldest grandchild is 11.

@Reallyhowisthatthecase333 we don't know what we don't know, but there are things we do know - Andrew's boorishness and sleazy behaviour with young women and with money, Charles' aid Michael Fawcett taking bags of cash for honours, the Queen Mother's profligacy and massive overdraft, the hiding of the Bowes-Lyon cousins in an asylum all their lives, Edward VIII's Nazi sympathies and collaboration. Even with those things, it's remarkable that we tolerate this obscenely wealthy family and, in some cases, fawn over them. If the mainstream press didn't keep their side of the bargain and revealed all they knew, the monarchy would almost certainly collapse. We arebeing hoodwinked in the name of patriotism and tradition.

Maybe there isn't credible evidence?

I have no idea whether this is true or not.

After operation Yewtree I am sceptical of this sort of gossip. On the other hand, Jimmy Saville was an open secret.

In the end I think if the media had credibile evidence in this case they would publish.

Totally agree - and the fawning on some of these threads on here is next level. It’s Emperor’s new clothes and it’s terrifying 😳

Fawning? Or just asking for evidence?

As I said, I reference Yewtree.

The IRA murdered Mountbatten and his grandchildren because he was a British (he wasn’t) royal (he wasn’t).

Nothing about him being a paedo - I can’t think they’d have missed that out. Both M and his wife were poly in an open marriage, but afaik they were both straight.

Mountbatten was also the head of the British armed services for a long time as Chief of Defence Staff - to this day he's still the longest holder of that post.

His involvement in the partition of India also made him a hugely controversial figure.

He wasn't simply targeted because he was the Great-grandson of Queen Victoria and a part of the British royal family - that was just a part of why he was such a target.

He had been warned that he was an IRA target multiple times. His arrogance to ignore the warnings and travel to Ireland again is quite something really.

I've heard these rumours about Mountbatten on and off since the 1970s. Depressing as it is, this was (and no doubt is) so common across all classes that people gave it little thought, apart from hoping the victims would find support and making a mental note to keep children away from them. In boys' public schools it almost seemed to be a requirement.

You rarely get actionable evidence, unfortunately. Mountbatten seems to have been a monumental prat in every way. This somewhat informs my opinion of his biggest fan, our esteemed king.

It's certain that at that time there was a serious pedophile ring operating in that area which included high ranking people. Young boys also went missing and one was found dumped in the Lagan.

Quite a few names have been bandied about including Enoch Powell and James Molyneux other politicians and high ranking civil servants were also reportedly involved. Some comments suggest evidence was hidden as it would impact "the troubles".

There was a new book released a few days ago by a journalist whose been investigating it since the 1980s. I've downloaded it but not had a chance to read it yet.

The only sure thing is those boys who were some of the most vulnerable in society won't get justice.

A bit of background

thebrokenelbow.com/2021/04/23/did-the-ruc-special-branch-cover-up-the-kincora-scandal/

He was also one of those responsible for the disastrous Dieppe raid in 1942 where over 900 Canadians were killed and 1,874 taken prisoner. Mountbatten claimed that essential lessons were learned for the D Day invasion but many at the time and later said should have been war gamed/worked out theoretically instead

If it was monumental, why isn't there actionable evidence?

Again we have to ask why Jimmy Saville got away with it, but also Operation Midland (sorry, not Yewtree) which has since seen Carl Beech comprehensively found guilty of false accusations.

The Gallipoli campaign was much the same. Churchill was responsible. The First World War.

Yet they've written very critical articles on Charles over the years. Certainly Camilla, and also William. So it can't be that?

I agree, @Seagullsandsausagerolls , the most vulnerable don't get justice. I don't think it's up to the DM or any tabloid in particular, though.

This involves MI5 and MI6 files, RUC and Foreign Office at the minimum. Due to those involved and the political situation at the time it's well buried as a matter of national security. Can't imagine the Daily Mail even being willing to touch that poo.

Convictions.may have been made but it's pretty sure the ringleaders got off. Even if the establishment knew exactly what was happening who were the masses going to believe? Mountbatten, Powell and Molyneux and cronies or teenage boys from troubled backgrounds in East Belfast?

I knew Bill Evans, Mountbatten's valet, personally, though he was retired by the time I met him - and while I've no idea about his wife "Dickie" was apparently bisexual

As for whatever other info the press may have I doubt we'll hear about it while Charles - who lionised him as he did other deeply dubious characters - is still head of state

Yes, that's true. It's shocking that people cannot get justice on these issues. If only those at the centre of the establishment eg the BBC and the Times etc would do their job properly.

I can remember Private Eye publishing many, many pieces of investigative journalism on what went on at Kincora Boys’ Home.

I agree with this. There are and always have been people in positions of power who abuse vulnerable children, and women and men. Whilst a few high profile people (often royal adjacent) get allegations made against them which make it to the public domain, they are protected from legal consequences because of those who don't want their associations to become public. Look at the Epstein case, one woman prosecuted, one man smeared but not prosecuted. No one else called to account.

That's why we have rumours but no press campaigns.