Uncle Dickie, Charles uncle

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Daily Mail and other 'media' coverage of the royal family are often quoted on here as being in the know. Their reporting is much discussed and taken as factual. Why have they failed to cover, along with other British media, the news of the past few days about Mountbatten? The allegations have been much talked about for years and now we hear first hand from those who suffered.
Perhaps this explains the reluctance to push Andrew too much?
What other skeletons are being hidden?
Have just read some of Andrew Smyths, one of those abused, story and it is truly heartbreaking.
I have tried to post a screenshot of Suzanne Breen's article in the Belfast Telegraph on here, not sure if it is posting but well worth checking out.
There are other articles posted elsewhere.

Well yes and it's also horrific if it's made up.

We know the allegations against the Hornby brothers- Simon and Charles, are true, or at least the police thought they were.

Any others? Pethaps we will know, sooner rather than later...

Fwiw, the Independent Inquiry Into Child Sexual Abuse took Daly seriously enough to collect a deposition from him.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/westminster/part-b-allegations-child-sexual-abuse-linked-westminster/b2-1970s.html

I agree.

I saw a documentary about his parents - he was 8 when his maternal grandmother agreed his mother needed to institutionalized - within 18 months all his sister were married and his Dad was gone and he was left to be passed around the family in school hoildays - Philip him self said he had no real home from 8 onwards.

Also read he did not have much to do with Dicki Mountbatten till he was nearly an adult when he might have started to be of use to him but that might be overly cynical.

To be fair I think his other uncle was in a better position to have him from what I read. Maybe Mountbatten would have stepped up if that hadn't been the case. His childhood seemed so sad.

I always thought it was interesting at royal events where this strange little lady would be there in her nuns habit. I was being taught by nuns at the time so she seemed a bit stranger than them and amazing to hat she had children.

I can't remember what the events were as I was just a kid. Fair dos to her though, she stood up to Nazis and saved some Jewish people. You can't fault that.

Princess Alice lived quite the life - she coped remarkably well with her deafness lip read in several languages though it may have contibuted to her mental health problems though a lot led up to her break down.

She didn't have much choice about leaving her kids - bungle into a car against her will not allowed to say goodbye - defended her sanity tried to escape - and yes her actions in second world war were remarkable risking her life hiding Jews in occupied Greece and honoured as a Righteous Among the Nations.

I'm half a day late, because I was watching tennis, and brown men from India playing cricket, but my understanding has always been that Edwina's affair was with Nehru. I did once hear or read that it possibly wasn't consummated, but I've no idea.

It wasn't until after Prince Philip's death that I found out more about her. I knew about the WW2 stuff but I hadn't known that she was deaf (from birth?) and it wasn't realised for quite a while. PP was deaf too.

That was always the line of the M family & some others, including members of the Nehru family. They obvs also had a strong reason to deny it bc it casts doubts on so much of the political situation. But others, including other Nehru family members & many, many other people have provided strong evidence it was. See Lownie's bio & Tunzelmann's Indian Summer for details.

Let's not forget that Edwina's diaries are still being partly redacted, her letters to Nehru are still unavailable to researchers & many other files are still under lock and key.

The Irish magazine Village has a journalist, Joseph de Burca, who Lownie trusts & has published a lot on the possibility of an 'Anglo-Irish vice ring' which abused boys & young men through the 1970s. I don't know if to believe him or not. But there are indications that there was at least some kind of ring of crime going on, and it may have involved Mountbatten.

https://villagemagazine.ie/not-just-ted-heath-british-establishment-paedophilia-and-its-links-to-ireland/

Yes, whatever else they did, Alice and Edwina, while v v different people, were willing to risk their lives for others. Imo Gyles Brandreth was quite hard on Alice, showing her as neurotic etc ...but if she was, I can think of several reasons why...

Thank you for info.

Why the heck was he called Dickie? None of his names were Dick, Richard, Ricky or similar.

Have no idea - he was called that from when he was a child, by his parents.

I read somewhere that one of his names was Nicolas. Queen Victoria called him Nicky and because of confusion with other Nickys in the family it got changed to Dickie.

We do know that in 1974 the Playland vice ring was exposed, a group of establishment men exploiting vulnerable young men, 20somethings, (often so-called Dilly Boys, prostituted young men who sold sex in Piccadilly, teens & children. One man who was caught was the aristocrat old Etonian Charles Hornby, a friend of our King.🙄

https://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/the-playland-cover-up/

There were also Daily Mail & Now (Irish magazine) investigations in the 80s and 90s which contained similar claims.

Anthony Daly in his book names a LOT of figures. Some may have other indications : eg. He names Anthony Chevenix-Trench, a former Eton head who is now notorious for his love of caning boys.( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Chenevix-Trench ) It doesn't seem a huge stretch that such a man might have been an abuser, tho it is in no way confirmed.

Others named include Gordon Richardson(a Bank of England governor), Noel Annan (Provost of UCL), Sir Keith Joseph, James Molyneaux (UUP leader), Knox Cunningham (Harold Macmillan's private secretary) .

There is extra evidence for some of these. Lyra mcKee the brave Irish journalist (shot a few years back 😢 in a protest) had some evidence on Molyneaux. There is also evidence for Cunningham.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/kincora-campaigners-fury-after-abuse-evidence-is-censored/35432535.html

m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/kincora-scandal-i-will-reveal-the-secrets-says-ex-army-officer-colin-wallace/30438022.html

Enoch Powell was allegedly involved. His campaign manager Jeffrey Donaldson leader of the DUP is currently being charged for historic sexual offences.

Yes, Village magazine has also investigated Enoch Powell. It's interesting how many further right media figures are now praising him - I hope they are unaware of this...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=villagemagazine.ie/the-mentor-of-sir-jeffrey-donaldson-the-new-leader-of-the-dup-was-a-racist-and-a-paedophile-with-deranged-views-about-the-intelligence-of-women/&ved=2ahUKEwjnw-_KoquOAxW2R0EAHZW0BS0QFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3iZjR1GoCof0IZYJSeR6FD

That's also what I read. Nicholas was one of his middle names and he was called Nicky after his godfather/uncle Tsar Nicholas II, but there was a few of them in the family so it was changed.