VE service Westminster Abbey and Prince Harry

[Owl55]

How sad that Prince Harry wasn’t allowed to be at this service , he more than many of the royals should have been invited. King Charles has never intervened to stop the media trying to destroy Harry’s marraige a
nd I think as Head of the Church of England he should practice what he preaches and forgive Harry for his mistakes but somehow I don’t think he will . Not everyone hates Harry and Meghan and it’s time to all stop this nonsense.Yes Charles has been dealing with cancer but so have thousands without the very best treatment and support so reconcile while you are able .

Who said he wasn't allowed to be there? Is it clear that he wanted to be there and wasn't allowed.

As for forgiveness, doesn't repentance come before foregiveness and Harry doesn't think he has done anything too be forgiven for.

Reconciliation would be lovely to see but without trust it would be hard to reconcile.

Where to start with your ill thought-out post? Would you trust Harry if he was your relation? Where is your evidence that the media are yearning to destroy H & M's marriage? Do you really think in a democracy that the minarch can dictate what the media publish?

Yes Harry served in the military but he chose out when told he could not be half in half out. I think the not being able to have a wreath laid on the cenotaph in the early days probably made him realise what he was not longer allowed to do. Andrew served in the Navy and (quite rightly ) was nowhere to be seen. Firstly I would ask you to give evidence about "the media" trying to disrupt Harry's marriage and secondly What on earth do you expect Charles to do. Just say - Oi mateys I'm the King stop dissing my son and DIL. 😂

I do agree with you that not everyone hates H&M - indeed I would say very very few do. Some though are frustrated by their clinging onto quasi royalness and I speak for myself here , but I suspect others , by Harry's self pitying whinging & his it's all the fault of the RF mantra. Harry says the words but has he done anything practical to reconcile.

That's my view - and I don't hate H&M & I honestly know no-one who does. It's a mixture between amusement , head shaking at their antics , bemused astonishment with Harry & irritation at the clear untruths they come out with , and on the whole just - seen enough of them, enough already - with people I know.

But what do I know

Is this another iteration of the current vogue on here for those in favour of Harry trying to somehow bring religion in to the whole Sussex and RF debacle? William didn’t go to
church at Easter, the King should practice forgiveness as head of the Cof E etc etc. straw clutching much 🙄😆

I'm assuming that if he'd given 28 days notice - easy to do as VE80 was known well in advance, and if it was important to Harry it would be in his calendar - he could have come and would have been given appropriate security. In fact he'd have had the same security as his father since Charles was present. So it follows from that for me that attending this event wasn't Harry's priority.

If he had behaved himself with dignity over the last 5 years he'd be there.

Well, he had no problem with pulling out of a Marines memorial event when he was Captain General so he could tout for voiceover work for Meghan, so I'm not sure he'll be over bothered about missing today.

I wish this latest narrative that St King Charles should forgive the prodigal Prince (I hear a Peggy Mitchell " Faaaaaaaaamily" in my head) would go away.

Good spot! The new script.
The son/ the sun.

I don't think the op is in favour of Harry, anyone who knows this topic will know how this thread will go. even if you don't know the topic, a quick look will show you the 100 of threads about him(and Meghan) and 99% are not nice ones.

Definitely better off not attending. Rightly or wrongly the media would have made it about the family issues and taken the focus of the real reason for the service.

Looked to be working royals only.

working royals only, harry is a private citizen it's not a family get-together but a state occasion.

as a private citizen harry can organise a street party in his neighbourhood to celebrate ve day

Besides, if he had attended VE Day, he would have had to jet back to Las Vegas to make that ceremony. Very tiring for most people.

This.
I wouldn't have minded going myself but as a private citizen I wasn't invited - even though I live in this country and wouldn't have required any special fuss made so I could go.

Harry was too busy with his court case and subsequent family bashing interview.
He was told he couldn’t be half in half out but it appears he failed to understand the consequences of his choice.

William and family went to church at Sandringham, along with the Middletons. A simple google will confirm.

I doubt that Harry does church at all. I'm sure he'd have been there today if he'd wanted to arrange it.

I know William went to Church
my point was that this is the new accusation that the RF are somehow not upholding their religious obligation. Hence the eye roll emoji 😆

Don't forget the horrors of the navy suit and the outrage of the Catholic world 🙄

It's a script, but one that feels utterly bonkers.

Edited to add eye roll emoji

If Harry were sensible and brighter, and not operated by M-Power, he would have been able to come for events like this, sit in the congregation, greet the many people he would know, meet new people, and show that you can have a good life as an ex-Royal.

1. The Head of State does not control the press. Nor should you ever wish this to be the case if you want to live in a free society.
2. How did the press try to destroy Harry's marriage? Tangible evidence please.
3. I'm glad you accept Harry has made mistakes. When has he showed repentance, such that forgiveness may be bestowed? A week ago he was accusing his father of trying to have him killed. Would you forgive such a baseless accusation if it was you?
4. Why should Harry more than many royals have been invited? Are you talking about his much disputed service in Afghanistan? What about Andrew who is a veteran of the Falklands and reputedly a real hero. Would you want him there too?
5. Do you think Harry's presence may have distracted from the veterans being honoured? I mean, you've distracted yourself with this thought and he's not even there.
6. Who is perpetuating "all this nonsense"? The royals have said next to nothing in 5 years. All the nonsense is coming from the camp of H&M. What are you suggesting H&M do to stop all their nonsense?
7. What cancer treatment is available to Charles that isn't available to the rest of the populace?
8. How many of the populace with cancer are dealing with it on top of being head of state and in the middle of one of the most infamous family disputes in living memory?
9. Do you think Charles should put the future of the institution of the Royal Family, it's position within the governance of this country, and the reputation of the UK in jeopardy to assuage the petty grievances of a minor royal?

not allowed
😂😂😂
Yes, that's right, you were obviously there, OP when KC sent a Yeoman Warder to Montecito to read out a scroll banning Harry from attending.

@RandyRedHumpback - I think that is a good post 👏

Just to say I watched the VE concert this evening. A bit of a curate's egg but I loved the randomness of the Darkness , and they did seem to go down well , I thought KC spoke pretty well , I liked seeing him giggling at the Dad's Army skit. But Oh my - if there are ever songs which evoke wartime spirit , I thought that Scott chap absolutely mangled Blue birds over the White cliffs etc . It was almost like he was singing it in the club style. But I will say I thought Samantha Barks was fabulous ( she sang We'll meet again ) I ( to my shame ) did not know she was a recognised stage singer , indeed I had never heard of her , until DH told me - but I thought she was great . I think the acoustics weren't great for the TV so perhaps that didn't help. Anyway Basiliskdog & I quite enjoyed it whilst reclining on the sofa 😂🐾🇬🇧☕🎤🎻

Excellent points, @RandyRedHumpback.
Also, even if KC did everything in his power to appease and please Harry, it would not be enough. Harry wants to be a senior royal, with all the wealth, privilege and status, but live a celebrity life in Montecito. Make a lot of money from selling royal gossip and privacy, yet have a top seat at events.
Having people bow and curtsey, but doing nothing to support the institution or the UK.

Was he not allowed? I thought he was in Vegas for some events. Shame on the RF if they proactively disallowed (for lack of a better word) him.

It was clearly working royals only. Harry is not a working royal or resident in the uk. Both choices he made. He doesn’t get to pick and choose.