VE service Westminster Abbey and Prince Harry

[Owl55]

How sad that Prince Harry wasn’t allowed to be at this service , he more than many of the royals should have been invited. King Charles has never intervened to stop the media trying to destroy Harry’s marraige a
nd I think as Head of the Church of England he should practice what he preaches and forgive Harry for his mistakes but somehow I don’t think he will . Not everyone hates Harry and Meghan and it’s time to all stop this nonsense.Yes Charles has been dealing with cancer but so have thousands without the very best treatment and support so reconcile while you are able .

He's obsessed and he's paranoid. This nonsense about the royals "getting favourable stories" ?! He has absolutely no clue, and certainly has never read a newspaper.

To this door? 🤣🤭🫣

www.thesun.co.uk/news/34882882/prince-harry-wrong-door-camera/

Harry wasn’t there because he quit his role as a working royal and left the country, only working royals were on the balcony.
and it would be extremely disrespectful to have Harry up there on an occasion to celebrate the brave men and women who died for our country after his awful tantrum of a tv interview!

Many people overlook the fact that KC3 served in the Royal Navy and used his pension to start the Prince's Trust.

W also served in the Armed Forces and was scheduled to deploy to the Middle East, but he was pulled last minute after the British media leaked the news of his impending deployment. (The PM and Army Leadership strongly advised the late Queen that it was simply far too dangerous for W to be deployed).

Which begs the question...how did the news that W was going to Afghanistan leak? It was not from the MoD per news articles around that time. And the only other people who would have known would be family.

The first time I knew that Harry was on active service in Afghanistan was when he was already there. I don't recall any news reports telling us beforehand that he was going to go. Was I the only person in the country that didn't know before he went?

You invite Harry, you need to invite Andrew 22 years naval service.
Can't have one rule for one, a different rule for the other. But remember neither are working Royals, neither have permission to wear uniform.

Then remember neither Charles or William trust Harry.

Basically Harry & Andrew made their beds 🛌

Harry made the decision to step back from working royal life and move to the US.

Why would Charles disrespect Harry’s decision and start badgering him to attend random events in the UK?

W was supposed to go to Afghanistan, but his deployment was pulled when UK media leaked it.

The MoD changed their strategy with H. The UK media was called in and informed that H was deploying and were asked not to report. It was an Australian blogger who was not aware of the embargo who accidentally broke it when covering the Australian troops. Then the UK media reported once it was public news.

My question is still how did the UK media find out about W's impending deployment? If not the MoD, then who?

Unfortunately, Charles is and always has been a very weak man. He's spent his life putting himself first.

Well, he had no problem with pulling out of a Marines memorial event when he was Captain General so he could tout for voiceover work for Meghan, so I'm not sure he'll be over bothered about missing today

spot on!

And it’s such a shame 🙄 the Op wasn’t aware of the Military service of the King, Andrew and William.

I see. An unwitting Aussie.
If you were brain-storming there might have been several reasons for the news getting out. A journalist might have listened in to a phone call that Harry made to a friend.

I think it is generally accepted that an Australian journalist who was not in the scope of those who were asked to not report on H whilst he was away accidentally did it. And was mortified. I don't think this was the RF leaking where Harry was. If I am wrong someone tell me.

Sorry cross posted with @My2cents1975 there.

I think it was a fuck up and I can see why Harry was cross. But equally I think William would have loved the opportunity H had so - they each have their advantages. I think even H said his brother protected him when he was straight off the plane for the interview. .

One thing I am interested in - was Harry a properly serving military person. So are the "Bunker Harry" things out of order. I am not asking anyone whose husband or wife served in the military to say anything secret. Just interested. I have a family member who was a pilot of a Chinook. Afghanistan and shot at - luckily not hurt.

That's what I heard too. I certainly don't think it had anything to do with the RF. I remember a lot of (proper) sympathy for Harry and the position he was put in.

I think some younger people who were not around at the beginning of the internet don't understand life "before".

Print media was how people accessed information, and this was controlled by a handful of firms who could afford the huge logistics costs of physically printing and delivering newspapers. In that bygone era, it was easier to enforce a news embargo.

But the internet became a gamechanger and the proliferation of blogging meant that content creation moved from a handful of firms to the masses as all you needed in the new world was access to a computer. It was in that inflection point that the old guard at MoD missed that solely coordinating with UK media to protect H, was no longer an effective strategy.

No you weren’t. Harry being in Afghanistan was a very well kept secret. In fact I seem to recall the British press had agreed to a press embargo about it and the fact it wasn’t reported by foreign press shows just how well the secret was kept. It did eventually have to be made public because little whispers started to be heard and that was when it was announced, and announced in such a way that it was very much controlled and no one had the swoop.

Nobody knows what is going on or has gone on behind closed doors so who are any of us to judge

Exactly, and nobody knows whether H and his father have been in contact with each other or not since the court case finished - KC, quite rightly, couldn't get involved until that was done and dusted. Perhaps baby steps from his father to see whether any conversations are leaked? Nobody knows.

Didn’t Harry once cancel a Military engagement to go to a social event instead?

Source? Evidence? Sources from the palace and DailyHeil don't count.

He was invited to the memorial event for the Marines, but opted instead to go to the Disney Lion King premiere. They were on the same date. He wasn’t obliged to go to the memorial, but as Captain General of the Royal Marines, that probably wasn’t the best choice he ever made

typo

And at that Lion King premier, July 2019, was touting for voice-over work for Meghan with the Disney CEO, Bob Iger. All caught on camera.

Oh and isn't this where the Lion King actor from South Africa was supposed to have told Meghan that they danced in the street like they had when Mandela was released when she married Harry? Except that he denied saying any such thing.

Was asking for source/evidence not details. In any case, not the worst sin anyone has ever committed. Definitely not thought through especially given he "shopped" fot a job for his wife saying she does voices (perhaps he was joking) but definitely not the worst. He does after all support the military in many other ways. May be I can just see this differently because am not perfect so I don't expect Harry or any other human to be

It was captured on film so just google !

Ooh…just because we are all flawed human beings is no reason to excuse horrible behaviour!

Harry has quite deliberately chosen not just to leave his family and his role (up to that point, I wouldn’t judge him) but to attack them in the world media for money and sensation. It’s not a simple case of saying “Well, we’re none of us perfect!” with an indulgent smile. He’s done cruel things for money.

I didn’t quote a source because you said you wouldn’t accept the Mail it was in the Wxoress but I assumed you wouldn’t accept that either. But yes there is video evidence a plenty if you google

ETA. If you are Captain General of the Marines. I don’t think you should be picky about how you “support” them
and which events to attend. This event was about remembering marines who had been murdered. I would expect the Captain General to prioritise such an event over schmoozing with the Mouse 🙄