VE service Westminster Abbey and Prince Harry

[Owl55]

How sad that Prince Harry wasn’t allowed to be at this service , he more than many of the royals should have been invited. King Charles has never intervened to stop the media trying to destroy Harry’s marraige a
nd I think as Head of the Church of England he should practice what he preaches and forgive Harry for his mistakes but somehow I don’t think he will . Not everyone hates Harry and Meghan and it’s time to all stop this nonsense.Yes Charles has been dealing with cancer but so have thousands without the very best treatment and support so reconcile while you are able .

They didn't. This is just ridiculous, as pp have pointed out.

Of course they didn’t “proactively disallow him”. All the Royals in attendance were “working royals” (or, in the case of the Duke of Kent, of the generation actually involved in the war). So, no, Harry wasn’t there, but neither were the Yorks or the Tindalls

When did the King preach about forgiveness? He doesn't have a licence to preach.
When has he spoken about forgiveness? I'm not saying he hasn't, but I can't remember him doing so. Can you give a firm example of this?

Harry doesn’t attend any events anymore and hasn’t since he left, apart from funerals. No one in the family speaks to him, no one knows his kids and Meghan wouldn’t be seen dead in the UK or near Harry’s family so why would anyone think he would want to come? Of course he hasn’t been disallowed. Apart from anything else he thinks he’s in danger if he comes to the UK. Paranoid and delusional as well as unpleasant .

Also yes, he was in Vegas.

I think it’s perfectly reasonable harry wasn’t invited, it’s not like it’s a service of remembrance for a conflict he served in. He would only be going as a representative of the royal family, which he doesn’t do anymore.

The fact the two royals who have served in conflicts (Harry and Andrew) are no longer acting members of the family does make these things a bit awkward - but that’s more of a conversation to be had around the royals wrapping themselves in military status but then also being very cautious about letting anyone who is likely inherit the throne serve in conflicts.

He must've know that if he'd been there, all the focus would be on that, which would be inappropriate for such an important occasion.

I think he'd like to be welcomed back by the family, but no one can see how that's possible, it sadly feels like it's gone too far now. Still I'd hope they can work it out eventually.

Harry needs to grow up and stop acting like a petulant child. If he was part of my family I'd cut him off for the lies he has spread and what he has done to betray his blood family.

If he has to give 28 days notice to ensure his security detail, as part of losing the court case, surely he wouldnt have had enough notice to arrange it for him to attend after losing the case?
How's the 28 day rule will work if KC3 or someone else in the RF dies and he needs to return for the funeral? Theyre generally held pretty promptly after a death.

so interesting that the op hasn't been back.

William did go to church, but with his in laws.

The 28 days' notice requirement was in place the entire time his case was being heard and appealed. The timing of the COA decision made no difference to this. If he had been successful in the COA, all that he would have "won" was the decision making process being repeated - not the immediate provision of permanent security and the lifting of the 28 days rule. So even if he had won, he'd still have to give 28 days' notice for the time being.

In the event of a major happening like the death of a monarch/state funeral, there are plans already in place with regards to logistics and security. In the case of QEII, it was called Operation London Bridge, had been in place for many years and these plans are continually revised. There will be one in place for Charles and it will have been put into place since at least his mother died if not years before. The provisions for all people likely to attend such a funeral and their security are already in place. Harry will fall within existing security provision provided to all attendees. So the 28 day notice issue doesn't come into play.

dont forget for invited visits he gets security.
so had he been on official visit, he would have got it.
staying at a royal residence also means he gets it.
he just doesn’t get it if he pops over to his mates unexpectedly.

he also doesn’t get numerous British police living in America or travelling with him and each member of his immediate family

He could have watched and listened… then gone and told all to the U.S. press….

I would like to think that he was invited but then had a think about it and realised that if he had attended a lot of attention would be focussed on him rather than on the reason for the service in the first place, so declined the invitation.

[I do realise that I am projecting empathy and consideration onto a man who chose his dying grand mothers private nickname for his child, discussed his fathers health on tv, thinks his feelings are above UK law, and is happy to throw any member of his family under the bus if it brings in a couple of quid.]

Yes, unlike some people, he doesn't publicise every single tiny detail of his life.

Aargh! I’ve already said I know that. And that is also why I put the eye roll emoji. Have it again 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Since Harry is allegedly afraid of Taliban reprisal for his kill count, he should play down his military involvement. Perhaps not a good idea to keep reminding everyone.

Harry only had 80 years notice of the 80th anniversary of VE Day. No reasonable person would say that's enough. Poor Harry.

Was this a poor attempt at trying to roll several random criticisms together to have a go at the Royal Family? If so you've missed loads out if you want a full bingo card!

Not nearly enough time to do a thorough risk assessment 😁

It doesn’t look as if the op is coming back. What a surprise! But to answer your questions:

Possibly not but the only way for trust to be re-established is for Charles and Harry to speak. Nothing will be improved by communicating through courtiers or the media. And the longer it goes on, the deeper the rift will become.

Of course the media have financial reasons for wanting H and M to part! A boring happy marriage doesn’t generate half as many clicks as separations or divorce.

And of course the Monarchy can’t control the media but we know that BP do brief the press and offer stories in exchange for favourable coverage.

I don't have any particular love for any of the royals and it actually wouldn't surprise me if Harry and Meghan were mistreated by them. But rationally, I wouldn't have anyone near me if I thought they would take whatever I had said and sell it in their next book. Especially if my income relied on a level of good faith and if I was a target for the press as the royal family are. I'd be super cagey in their shoes and wouldn't be making any big efforts to hang out with Harry.

It is sad though. He at the very least feels he was wronged by his family and it must be really painful not seeing them

No, you don't know that. Harry has said it, but then again he's said a lot of things.

Indeed.

Frankly, if Harry came through the door wet and said it was raining I'd probably go outside to check.