Harry's new interview

[Viviennemary]

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

I’ve always thought the hate towards them was disproportionate. Particularly when there was the Andrew York case running almost parallel to this. How people can be so accepting of Andrew York, or should I say willing to turn a blind eye, and so hateful towards the Sussex family is at best bizarre.

That being said, I did cringe a bit watching a clip from the latest interview. It was very Thomas Markle, and I can’t understand how he cannot see - having been on the inside - how that would land with his family.

I do think KC needs to extend some of that forgiveness and love he preaches about to his own son & family though. It’s embarrassing he presents himself as a family man whilst simultaneously not having contact with his own son.

I know a great deal of " normal people" and I can assure they don't support Harry. They think he is a waster and a liar.

It is not about being an H&M supporter.
It is about humanity, decency.

Who on this thread, having the power that Charles has would sit back and allow their own flesh and blood to be in a similar situation( history has already showed us what can happen, when RF members don't have adequate protection, but the RF would probably be relieved if history was to repeat itself).

What about the kids? Do they not deserve to come and visit their father' s country of origin? Do their lives and safety not count?

Is one thing to be estranged from family, but this is an entirely different ( darker) scenario.

Would people that are defending this do the same to their flesh and blood( grandchildren included) if being in Charle's s shoes?

I would think it is highly unlikely Charles has shared any details regarding his cancer with Harry. He simply can’t be trusted not to blurt out the details at the next press interview or to tell his wife who will inform the press at some point.

As for not knowing how long he has to live, well none of us know how long we’ve got. But in the case of Charles, it is the general view of the radiologists I work with that he most likely has bladder cancer which would fit with the cancer being discovered at the time he had his prostate treatment. Bladder cancer is highly treatable if discovered early with a variety of options including laser treatment and chemo direct into the bladder. As Charles hasn’t had further surgery this would fit.
For those who have quite major surgery ie removal of the bladder with the ureters rerouted to an ileal conduit ie a small pouch of bowel with an abdominal collecting bag similar to a colostomy, survival rates are good in many cases. One of our patients recently celebrated 20 years since his surgery. He remains well and cancer free, but has needed ureteric stents (fine plastic tubes) to help route the urine from kidney to stoma and these need changing every three months hence we see him regularly. We have other patients with similar. So imo it is highly unlikely Charles will die of this particular cancer and certainly not any time soon.

Harry just doesn’t know what he’s got and hasn’t got the medical knowledge to put two and two together. Perhaps he’s genuinely worried. More likely he’s just using it to drum up sympathy for himself and to emotionally blackmail his Dad.

And pointless, because the very small number of family members who might genuinely care about seeing the children know the facts as you have outlined them, and the general public really don't give a shit if he and his children visit or not.

He's no longer the beloved japester Prince the 'grey men' convinced us he was. He's a bitter, petulant 40 year old man who has spent the last several years slagging off his family and the country which gave him everything. The world has moved on but Harry hasn't.

@JustMyView13 this isn't the Hallmark channel. This is Dr Phil telling you the reality.

I do feel a bit sorry for his children. No cousins they can mingle with on their mother's side, and looks like they won't be mingling with any on their father's side. But they have bought a house in the same gated community thing in Portugal that Eugenie also has a house in, so I guess they'll mingle with the York cousins.

FWIW, putting my professional hat on, I think this interview was booked well before the outcome of the court case was known and had a specific PR objective behind it: to socialise and get the public more amenable to a reconciliation between the Sussexes and the RF.

I think this because there are a number of phrases Harry repeats throughout the interview which in my view have clearly been scripted by someone else and sent to him as a mini script: the half dozen references to 'reconciliation', the multiple comments about how much he loves 'my country' / 'the UK'.

My theory is also bolstered by the rumour doing the rounds in the industry that the Sussexes have a cash flow problem which is now becoming rather urgent.

So that was the strategy. But unfortunately, Harry, because he's not very bright (and perhaps also due to the shock of the ruling) couldn't stick to the script, and insisted on rehearsing his tired old paranoid complaints, along with a new and alarmingly Stalin-esque desire for some sort of 'Truth & Reconciliation' detente.

In Harry's mind, this 'Truth & Reconciliation' event would seem to involve his family prostrating themselves and begging his forgiveness, before listening avidly as Harry, the Prince of Truth, schools them in the ways of righteousness.

I personally find it hard to comprehend the level of obtuseness on show here. Harry is Church of England and so should, I assume, be familiar with the core Christian (and then, western democratic) idea that reconciliation can only happen if BOTH sides acknowledge their faults, show humility, and forgive EACH OTHER. It's not all one way, with the agent of truth on one side and the benighted bigots on the other. That way lies permanent resentment and permanent conflict.

TLDR: the interview was planned, and Harry screwed it up. Quelle surprise.

This isn't really about UK security - this is about Harry not having realised that he would lose IPP status once he stopped working for the Royals and he would have to pay for security in the US. It just looks better to say that he wants to 'come home' more with his kids - he doesn't, he just wants to stop paying for his security. The real clue is where he complains that the UK told other governments to take away his security - that's the IPP bit.

I love all the people here trying to guilt Charles into reconciling with a son who is publicly abusing him and undermining his role as the non-political head of state. Where is that energy when it comes to Meghan and her father? I thought she’s entirely justified in going non- contact?

In the current state of world affairs it really is distasteful for a prince to keep complaining about his personal grievances and how his father won't talk to him, and how taxpayers should still protect him despite doing nothing to earn it. This not about any public cause or benefit, it's just about him personally. People really have more pressing concerns than a privileged grown man still whining after 5 year of wanting nothing to do with the establishment, and having made enough money off it. And yes, police forces are not security companies for private hire. Harry needs to have his own private security and pay for it, if it's worrying him that much.

He's not to be trusted though, if he can describe his brother's penis in a book, then I bet he would definitely spill the beans on other things.

Do you really believe this crap?

Oh give over with the melodrama. I wouldn’t go near my DCs if they were half as bad as Harry. Zero chance for my own mental health.

No idea who dr Phil is. Your comment is lost on me.

Not all the damaging secrets surely.

Not as hurt? I don't know about that. Harry's feelings about being a "spare" must make him feel uncomfortable at best.

Sibling relationships are strong and maybe Harry feels that once Charles dies the whole ballgame will change.

Problem is the whole family are entering the spongers brickbat territory not just Harry.

The British government/Police have gone over Harry's situation with a fine tooth comb and decided that he was no more unsafe in having bespoke security.
King Charles doesn't decide the goings on of the UK security. Talking to his father will have no effect. Harry seems deluded.

If he made ammends with his father and were never to write books or do interviews about his family again, he would be living in royal buildings (already under protection) when he visited and spending time with the King, with protection.

Harry chose to remove himself from royal engagements and distanced himself from his family by betraying their trust.
Harry needs to sleep in the bed he designed for himself.

Did he? Ah well.
Still how can a dying father not speak to his hurting son. Yes I mean dying because we all are. No one is going to live forever

Yes it will get worse for Harry. Stupid man

Who on this thread, having the power that Charles has would sit back and allow their own flesh and blood to be in a similar situation( history has already showed us what can happen, when RF members don't have adequate protection, but the RF would probably be relieved if history was to repeat itself).

What power does Charles have? Certainly no more than his mother did, who said to RAVEC that while she would lobby for her grandson to continue to have security, she understood it was a decision for the Home Ofgice to make, not her, and she would abide by it.

The same way she had also abided by the Home Office’s decision to withdraw 25/7 security from her other children and family members some 15 years ago. I don’t imagine she personally liked that decision either. But she is a constitutional monarch, and those decisions are made by the government, not her.

(also what a repugnant statement you ended with there)

If they do exile him permanently and without any possibility of return then he should unleased the whole truth and let sunlight into our understanding of what goes on behind the scenes. That's a $100 million bounty for sure.

It is not about reconciliation with Charles or the RF in itself.

It is about not getting your son and your grandchildren killed in the eventuality of them coming back to the UK for a visit or even for other ventures such as the Invictus games. It is as simple as that.

Even if I chose to not reconcile with my son ( could never see myself doing that )while nearing the end of my life, I wouldn't want my son and grandchildren getting killed and for any "unfortunate accident" to happen, and no Thomas Markle does not have the power to influence RAVEC.

In your opinion...