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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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Zone2NorthLondon · 02/05/2025 23:00

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 22:57

Probably because it's completely off topic and people are wise to obvious derail attempts on this forum.

Oh I see? only H&F perceived flaws are scrutinised. Yea she’s a bad un. Marmalade making harridan

BigWillyLittleTodger · 02/05/2025 23:00

Well after that tantrum we can be assured that Harry is absolutely finished now, what an absolute tool he is, he has cut his nose of to spite his face, this will cost him dear, if he thought the grey rocking was bad enough now it will be an enormous iceberg, hope it was all worth it Harry.

viques · 02/05/2025 23:01

I have listened to the whole interview, if it can be called that rather than “ bitter man rants unchecked” , and I have to confess that a lot of my annoyance comes from my irritation at his annoying valley girl upward inflection at the end of every sentence, but I also didn’t like

his slightly threatening implication that he knows “names” , so, he has a little list, what is he going to do, ninja into their bedrooms like the SAS and cut all their throats.

his constant reiteration of certain facts , without security since 2020, lack of a security review, he had the highest risk factor, those really appeared to be his only arguments he could muster to support his case, and the more he repeated them the weaker they seemed since they were historic details but not relating to his present circumstances.

his other threats along the lines of “you’ll be sorry if something happens to me,” with the subtext of like it did with my mother. He seems to forget his mother refused all but the most basic security, then got into a car with a drunk driver and didn’t wear a seat belt.

I thought the most interesting part came when the mask slipped and he talked of “wanting” not needing, and for a second,until he realised what he had said, the privilege popped out in full sight and you realised that he is furious , not at the lack of security but at affront that someone would dare to take it
away from him.

There were clearly little snippets that he had been told to include -which he did again and again. - for example 35 years of public service(?!) , two tours of Afghanistan, Invictus games, charity work. I suppose they were supposed to make us admire him as a valued member of the human races, but only made me think hmmm, hardly a full cv for a fit healthy man approaching middle age.

Man child who has thrown his toys out of the pram, but has realised too late that he no longer has flunkies to pick them up and put them back into the pram.

AcquadiP · 02/05/2025 23:01

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:03

I am seeing security around him right now on the news. I wonder how many of them have guns.

None. He can hire security in the UK but not armed security.

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 23:01

BigWillyLittleTodger · 02/05/2025 23:00

Well after that tantrum we can be assured that Harry is absolutely finished now, what an absolute tool he is, he has cut his nose of to spite his face, this will cost him dear, if he thought the grey rocking was bad enough now it will be an enormous iceberg, hope it was all worth it Harry.

After what happened his mother it was an inevitability.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 23:01

Zone2NorthLondon · 02/05/2025 23:00

Oh I see? only H&F perceived flaws are scrutinised. Yea she’s a bad un. Marmalade making harridan

I'm not sure who H&F are, much less F's marmalade.

Zone2NorthLondon · 02/05/2025 23:03

Diana had a tell all memoir and. Salacious interview. Oastrcised by RF. Pilloried by media
Huge revisionism to make her a popular character upon death. She was unpopular prior to her death.

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 23:04

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 23:01

After what happened his mother it was an inevitability.

And i am a person that has no sympathy for the royal family. And their riches and privileges. And the fact that our king has much more power than he should have. I am more sympathetic to harry and Megan but i dislike both of them. Let’s just accept that the whole thing is an anachronism. Does not belong in this day and age. Give them nothing more.

friendlycat · 02/05/2025 23:05

I’ve come to the conclusion that sadly Harry won’t be happy until the following happens…
He’s welcomed back into the royal family fold
All past revelations are swept under the carpet and forgotten
His security detail match those of his brother and father
His family apologise to him and his wife
He can engage in all Uk ceremony style occasions
At the same time his wife can monetise all royal family and titled connections
He can drift between the UK and USA and be acclaimed in both
The Grey Suits of the RF continue to offer him advice even though he loathes them
The umbrella of the RF affords him the status, recognition and respect without doing any grudge work
Basically he can pick and choose the nice bits, but live a fabulous life as well in the USA and still be funded by his father at the same time.

But it’s not going to happen is it?

Nazzywish · 02/05/2025 23:05

wordler · 02/05/2025 22:50

Ex PMs and some other politicians aren't just being protected because of things they might have done within their time in office, it's also because of things they know, national security briefings, security procedures, terrorist risks and known movements within the UK. Their safety assessment is also part of the safety assessment to national security.

Private citizens who get RAVEC security often also have some element to their situation which could put members of the public in danger. For example Salman Rushdie who at the height of intensity around the Fatwa was a target for bombings and setting bookstores on fire. His security needs impacted on the public security needs because his presence anywhere could lead to outbreaks of violence on a large scale.

Harry's death would be a personal tragedy and awful for all who love him but it isn't significant for the government or the safety of the UK. A kidnapping could destabilise the monarchy but because we have a constitutional monarchy our head of state can't influence the government in the same way as for example the American president being influenced by terrorists if one of his children was kidnapped.

OK I agree with the first paragraph.i hadn't thought about its more what they 'know' than who they are is the risk. Which makes sense.

I also understand the point being made in paragraphs 2& 3 but disagree because to me he is at that level of ' notoriety ' that wherever he & his family is in public the same applies to that rushdie example you gave, others could get hurt when they try to hurt him. I'm assuming he wouldn't just be left alone if he ever came back but woukd be swamped with public following him wherever he went. Like it or not he does generate that same level if hysteria all be it for different reasons to rushdie!

Also for those replying to the royal household question - if they are advisory only - fine, but ( only going of the interview here) if it as he says, and they have a real influence to the extent the board feel its not just an ' influence' ( thinking about the visit he said the head made to the Palace just before the downgrade) then that's wrong and I can see why he'd fight that tooth and nail. How is the boards impartiality ensured? Seems pretty hard to do if it's all as intermingled as he suggests it is. And yes I'm going of the interview because atm that's all the ' evidence' I can see to take points from, don't think anyone can really speak for the other side unless the judgements have been poured over if it's even in public?!

Zone2NorthLondon · 02/05/2025 23:06

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 23:01

I'm not sure who H&F are, much less F's marmalade.

You can speculate and ,predict outcomes regard H&M and such like but are flummoxed by a typo
Riiiight you are

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 23:07

Let’s do away with them all in relation to their influence, power and lack of tax paying.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 23:10

Nazzywish · 02/05/2025 23:05

OK I agree with the first paragraph.i hadn't thought about its more what they 'know' than who they are is the risk. Which makes sense.

I also understand the point being made in paragraphs 2& 3 but disagree because to me he is at that level of ' notoriety ' that wherever he & his family is in public the same applies to that rushdie example you gave, others could get hurt when they try to hurt him. I'm assuming he wouldn't just be left alone if he ever came back but woukd be swamped with public following him wherever he went. Like it or not he does generate that same level if hysteria all be it for different reasons to rushdie!

Also for those replying to the royal household question - if they are advisory only - fine, but ( only going of the interview here) if it as he says, and they have a real influence to the extent the board feel its not just an ' influence' ( thinking about the visit he said the head made to the Palace just before the downgrade) then that's wrong and I can see why he'd fight that tooth and nail. How is the boards impartiality ensured? Seems pretty hard to do if it's all as intermingled as he suggests it is. And yes I'm going of the interview because atm that's all the ' evidence' I can see to take points from, don't think anyone can really speak for the other side unless the judgements have been poured over if it's even in public?!

I'm assuming he wouldn't just be left alone if he ever came back but woukd be swamped with public following him wherever he went

Are you familiar with contemporary Britain? Harry really does not invoke 'hysteria'!

And he's been back to Britain several times without generating any fuss.

Also for those replying to the royal household question - if they are advisory only - fine, but ( only going of the interview here) if it as he says, and they have a real influence to the extent the board feel its not just an ' influence' ( thinking about the visit he said the head made to the Palace just before the downgrade) then that's wrong and I can see why he'd fight that tooth and nail.

He did. And he lost. See Serenester's point above.

AcquadiP · 02/05/2025 23:11

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 21:20

I’m conflicted. I don’t think he should have world wide security. But in uk how can the current king prevent his own son from having serious proper security? Given the issues in his upbringing!

A very dysfunctional family. The king needs to own that. I personally think this king is a petulant, entitled, nasty little shit who cares about no one but himself and his legacy.

there you go. That’s what I think. Do your worst :-)

The King has no say in who gets security and who doesn't! The Home Office make those decisions based on risk assessment. If Harry warranted armed security he would be given it. He can pay for his own security ofcourse but it won't be armed security, not in the UK at least.

Lighteningstrikes · 02/05/2025 23:11

Once a twat always a twat.

BreezyBertha · 02/05/2025 23:12

snughugs · 02/05/2025 22:31

Well according to that Lady C. The RF got advice how to deal with them and told to grey rock them. They clearly have taken this advice. Harry needs the money of his Father (which he cut off and you’ve all seen how much Meghan spent on clothes more than any member of the royal family in the whole of Europe). Meghan will be missing the status of having the connection and she’s on the wind up using HRH.

My conclusion he’s got learning difficulties and been very easy to manipulate by Meghan. Meghan has a personality disorder and the Royal Family if they’ve got any sense will continue to grey rock them although I suspect they’ll be upping the abuse towards his Father and William if they don’t comply.

I’ve got a narcissist brother he’s been out of my life 10years I have absolutely no desire to say life is short and have him back. I think life is too short to deal with him.

Meghan caused a great deal of upset and stress to the family and Harry allowed it. He’s could make them ill I think William will have the sense to keep them at bay.

I think it says a lot that MM spent more money on clothes than any other member of the RF! I mean it’s not like she was used to that kind of lifestyle. She was a relatively minor actress on a cable TV programme. It’s not like she was brought up in diamonds and riches. You’d think a reasonably normal person from outside of that world, would be overawed and chose cheaper items of clothing (in the low thousands not 10s of thousands) not go in like a bull in a china shop tantrumming about tiaras and making your staff cry especially when you’re not used to having staff at that level.

That’s what I found shocking from the start. Textbook narc IMO. So fake and unable to hide it either.

I don’t think Harry’s got learning difficulties. He’d never have flown an Apache no matter what his status was if he has. I think he was always a bit nasty (see how he talked about a disabled teacher from school and the racism) and definitely resented being 2nd chair and was jealous of William. Maybe also with the closeness William had with Diana.

The RF did a good PR job on him to paint him as a loveable, cheeky chappie though and keep a fondness for him within the nation as he’s the spare so needed a PR persona for his public profile.

MM just unleashed all his bitterness so he had a selling point for her to ride along with and without the RF PR machine to save him, we see the real him now.

I wish William would do an interview, like Charles and Diana did on their marriage, exposing what Harry’s really like and if Kate really made MM cry! It would shut those two up for good and hopefully make them live privately like they wanted. I don’t think William would look bad for it. Most people would welcome the other side of all the muck raking those two have done, especially if it did really affect the Queen in her last days and while Philip was dying with the OW interview.

QuiteUnbelievable · 02/05/2025 23:12

I feel very sorry for Harry, his dad did a telltale book and interviews, never loved his used abused mum before the horrific death they both had a torrid time of it but it was Harry Diana was most worried about.
Her death, no poetic positive thoughts can come if it and all the raiding over it she was murdered, pregnant and every theory known to man. Vilified in the press as thick and stupid the entire thing is awful and too boot he's got a naval gazing daddy who wants to insert himself into camilla vaginas via a tampax or something to be specially close to her. Dreadful

IdaGlossop · 02/05/2025 23:16

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 02/05/2025 19:14

Agreed.

I am a ginger too and can see in this case that it is unfortunate that 'ginger' rhymes with 'whinger '.

pollyglot · 02/05/2025 23:17

Spectre8 · Today 17:57
Well he said he doesn't know cos he doesn't. If someone has his illness and at his age then of course people will wonder how long he has left. There have been comments of similar effect by posters on other threads here wondering how long he has left as King. But that's okay for other people say those things but not him 🤪

What an idiotic thing to say. Who says, in public, that they don't know how long their father will live? THEIR FATHER, FFS. Not the king, not the Head of State, but their father. It's appallingly bad manners to start with, and totally lacking in sensitivity. I wouldn't ever have said that I had no idea how long my mother would live, even to my BFF. And she was 96. And a very unpleasant woman.

QuiteUnbelievable · 02/05/2025 23:19

@BreezyBertha @snughugs evidence please re clothes.

Also you can have sen and be highly competent and fly helicopters and do all sorts.
He lost his mum age 11? 12?

By this point he should have learned you don't be cruel about people with disabilities, he was in the care of many people even when mum was alive. He was split between mum and dad ferries around and tiggy and dad so where did that basic humility and teaching kindness fail??, Diana after all did take them to homeless shelters and do good works.
Was it the royals where this nastiness came from?
He basically had no parenting from the day his mum died.

Nazzywish · 02/05/2025 23:20

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IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 23:20

His father doesn’t really like him very much which is sad. But he told the world about his father in his book which he got millions for. He has made his bed. Let him lie in it.
His father though was not a good father. Because of generational issues.

lets get rid off them all.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 23:21

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A 'normal debate' where nobody points out your factual inaccuracies?

As you wish.

And the 'lost' was specifically referring to Serenester's post above about Harry's claim of alleged interference by the Royal Household. The court rejected this and the judgement was upheld.

Also, isn't calling someone a 'troll' against forum rules?

LillyPJ · 02/05/2025 23:23

snughugs · 02/05/2025 22:42

You think he’s intelligent?
You think Meghan is empathetic?

That’s fine I just see with my own eyes how it looks to me. An opinion.

Not being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean 'learning difficulties'. You can't diagnose someone just by watching a few interviews on TV - especially if you're not qualified to do so.

QuiteUnbelievable · 02/05/2025 23:23

@pollyglot @Spectre8 both coming at this from different angels I'm with spectre it's a valid question re he doesn't know how serious his dad's illness is.

Having said that I also understand why Charles wouldn't want to risk speaking to Harry incase it's publicised and aired.
However I also believe Harry had an awful childhood and Charles should be doing all he can to repair the damage and his wife should be supporting that

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